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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:15 pm    Post subject: Is this website and the UK 911 truth campaign dying? Reply with quote

Based on the evidence of the dwindling traffic on this site whats your view on the question posed?

Remember this thread last year:-


http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14091&postdays=0&post order=asc&start=30

My results based: statement: it has proven to be have been a huge error of judgement to divide the campaign and the campaigns best asset www.nineeleven.co.uk.

Whats planned for the UK 911 truth campaign in 2009?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 1:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Why is this website and the UK 911 truth campaign dying Reply with quote

Best ask Ian Neal (one of the 'committee of four') about that!
http://www.reinvestigate911.org/index/ian-neals-blog/
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Based on the evidence of the dwindling traffic on this site whats your view on the question posed?

Remember this thread last year:-


http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14091&postdays=0&post order=asc&start=30

My results based: statement: it has proven to be have been a huge error of judgement to divide the campaign and the campaigns best asset www.nineeleven.co.uk.

Whats planned for the UK 911 truth campaign in 2009?

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Why is this website and the UK 911 truth campaign dying Reply with quote

Pikey wrote:
Based on the evidence of the dwindling traffic on this site whats your view on the question posed?

Remember this thread last year:-


http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=14091&postdays=0&post order=asc&start=30

My results based: statement: it has proven to be have been a huge error of judgement to divide the campaign and the campaigns best asset www.nineeleven.co.uk.

Whats planned for the UK 911 truth campaign in 2009?


Good question Pikey.

I'm guessing that lot's of things have happened since the traffic peaked.

I'm saving most of it for a book Wink

The traffic is a measure of visits, but by whom we'll never know.

Maybe some visits were attracted by the background noise, prompted by Loose Change and other mainstream fed derivatives . . .

Maybe some of the traffic was in opposition to that, hence Critics Corner, - a sub-forum of which the mods, back then should be rightly proud to have displayed and allowed.

Interest peaks with exposure.

Maybe the spotlight has moved on and dimmed this in it's wake.

9.11.1 or 11.9.1 was over 7 years ago too.

That's 88 months this Sunday; 1.11.9 or 11.1.9

Whatever.

Intrigue, like planes and players have come and gone.

Assumptions have been swallowed whole and then debunked.

Reputations created and destroyed.

Belief, formed and then shattered.

Whatever the 911 "cult" have left to cling to is too tenuous for the fashionistas that come and go and will still come and go.

We clamoured for a new investigation, like there had already been one.

We tried to make sense of something that made no sense and then, tried to sell it to blogland.

Hell only knows how many souls have been taken since . . .

I was speaking with a chap from Rumania and he knows.

My employers know.

My local police know.

My children know.

My parents know.

My in-laws know.

All of my friends know.

Strangers, I have never met again and some I now know. Know.

I know and so do you.

88 months this Sunday.

They told us that everything changed Pikey.

And so did we.

We are a very long way from the morning of September 11th Pikey.

The world has moved on.

Ask the people of Iraq.

Ask the people of Afghanistan.

Ask the people of America.

Ask the people of England.

Ask the people, anywhere.

Traffic may have dwindled.

Gossip may have died.

Truth has now become known.

Truth issues are mainstream.

Traffic about truth, everywhere has grown.

That is what the perp's didn't care about in their short term.

That will be there undoing in the long term.

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recon because the crimes are now filtering down to us mere mortals most are withdrawng into cocoons to let it blow over or something.
A pointer to this is the incredible low amount of input to the Banking Collapse thread.
Alot of those once active also are trying to change their own lives, to not support the capitalist system by not buying into it or working for it which means many get by on next to b* all Wink

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Gossip may have died.

Truth may have become known.

Traffic about truth, everywhere has grown.

That is what the perp's didn't care about in their short term.

That will be there undoing in the long term.


Agreed, its as though we've got to our own stumbling block also.
We have no answers or way forward to offer, let alone plan to get rid of the scum in the first place!

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I predict massive terror worldwide as the last pools of wealth are snatched up before our eyes!
I predict rationing cards are sooner than we like to think? Start using local shops folks and get to know people on friendly terms, it might just make things that little bit easier.
I've noticed the current trend is people are'nt carrying money (in order not to spend it) and buying groceries on card in supermarkets.
Corner shops are practicaly empty, how long can they last?
I think around 10 shops have gone from Colchester, 5 since NYE
dunno if Woolies is still there, JJB sport is about finished, many family run businesses inc restaurants and take aways have gone. (10 could be a conservative figure, oh I remember a number of estate agents have gone and maybe even recruitment offices)

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PostPosted: Fri Jan 09, 2009 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We need to be making strong ties with one and other, working together helping each other. Unless we do this we will surely fail and the history of 9/11 will be written without our participation.
Amongst our ranks we have all trades covered, it is time we all pull together or fail. We have members in all the major cities and beyond.
We need to help each other and our neighbours and friends in times of hardship not hope others will do it for us!
Most importantly remember help doesn't mean necessarily money!! Money is the enemy of our times!

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I reckon Chris Coverdale, Annie Machon and the present Make Wars History tour is a useful focus for networking.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Maybe we are just sleeping due to the fatigue and distraction brought on by the endless bad news and global problems.

IMO we are relying a lot on the US truthers to get a new 9/11 investigation in the US.

In one sense its good to get the truth out to the massess but if it goes no further than that then justice has not been achieved.


Do we know if the combined traffic on this website and the other one has decreased?Obviously if you split something then people will migrate to one website or the other.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is some stuff going on over here on WAC's site
http://www.truthaction.org/forum/

But they specificly exclude discussion of Koranic or Biblical prophecy
3. Religion based conspiracy theories
http://truthaction.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=13909#13909
So it's something of a waste of time & efort as they will discover Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why is it a waste of time if that stuff is left out?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nrmis wrote:
Why is it a waste of time if that stuff is left out?


Actually according to truthaction website Religion based conspiracies are allowed but only in the Off Topic Forum.
Biblical prophecy or any prophecy is of interest to some not all if it is relevant.
For many decades people have been espousing biblical prophecies of one world global government , a global currency , global religion, and other such things. Its at least worth knowing what these prophecies are even if we dont take them onboard. They are also a way of getting those of a faith background who do give their holy writings some credence.

Appreciated that not everyone sees it like this

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disco_Destroyer wrote:
I predict massive terror worldwide as the last pools of wealth are snatched up before our eyes!
I predict rationing cards are sooner than we like to think? Start using local shops folks and get to know people on friendly terms, it might just make things that little bit easier.
I've noticed the current trend is people are'nt carrying money (in order not to spend it) and buying groceries on card in supermarkets.
Corner shops are practicaly empty, how long can they last?
I think around 10 shops have gone from Colchester, 5 since NYE
dunno if Woolies is still there, JJB sport is about finished, many family run businesses inc restaurants and take aways have gone. (10 could be a conservative figure, oh I remember a number of estate agents have gone and maybe even recruitment offices)


If history is any guide and in particular economic history, every period of collapse precipitated a period of massive change.

Either war or revolution will be the end result.
The debt induced hyper-capitalism will soon be revealed to be in a state of permanent decline and collapse.

The individualist way of living will be replaced with communal. Rationing is a way of pooling resources. The problem here is we dont really produce much anymore. So how they control mass hunger, deprivation will be key. By making life hell on the streets forcing people into their homes in fear of going out?
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 1:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I predict massive terror worldwide as the last pools of wealth are snatched up before our eyes!
I predict rationing cards are sooner than we like to think? Start using local shops folks and get to know people on friendly terms, it might just make things that little bit easier.
I've noticed the current trend is people are'nt carrying money (in order not to spend it) and buying groceries on card in supermarkets.
Corner shops are practicaly empty, how long can they last?
I think around 10 shops have gone from Colchester, 5 since NYE
dunno if Woolies is still there, JJB sport is about finished, many family run businesses inc restaurants and take aways have gone. (10 could be a conservative figure, oh I remember a number of estate agents have gone and maybe even recruitment offices)


If history is any guide and in particular economic history, every period of collapse precipitated a period of massive change.

Either war or revolution will be the end result.
The debt induced hyper-capitalism will soon be revealed to be in a state of permanent decline and collapse.

The individualist way of living will be replaced with communal. Rationing is a way of pooling resources. The problem here is we dont really produce much anymore. So how they control mass hunger, deprivation will be key. By making life hell on the streets forcing people into their homes in fear of going out?

I've said it many times and suspect its how they'll force the poor to become the foot soldiers of a bloody war.
Just look what reparations spawned in Germany :0

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I take it absolutely nothing then.

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Best ask Ian Neal (one of the 'committee of four') about that!


I tried to contact Ian Neal, Tony but he never obliged by providing me with a landline telephone number.

As for the instigator of the division in the UK 911 truth campaign in my opinion that firmly rests with yourself Tony.

The ptb will be absolutely delighted with your achievements Tony. Something to be proud of eh!
Crying or Very sad

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pikey, I have no affiliation with Tony whatsoever.

I respect your passion and understand the need to find a scapegoat for what you perceive to be a failure but, I do think your comments are a tad out of order mate.

Reflect and rephrase I'd say.

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