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The Scotsman:
http://news.scotsman.com/uk/Crossparty-fury-of-MPs-at.4868105.jp
| Quote: | .....The strongest criticism in the one hour session, that followed a statement from the Foreign Secretary, came from Sir Gerald Kaufman, a former Labour minister, who is Jewish.
Directing his fury at the Israeli prime minister, foreign minister and defence minister, he said: "Olmert, (Tzipi] Livni and (Ehud] Barak are mass murderers, war criminals and bring shame on the Jewish people whose Star of David they use as a badge in Gaza."
He suggested the British government would have taken a more strident tone if it had been Hamas who had "slaughtered 900 Israelis"..... |
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From The Hansard - House of Commons Debates 12 January 2009 - Gaza.
| Sir Gerald Kaufman wrote: | | In congratulating my right hon. Friend on steering resolution 1860 through the United Nations Security Council, may I ask him what the international reaction would be if Hamas had slaughtered nearly 900 Israelis and subjected nearly 1.5 million Israelis to degradation and deprivation? Is it not an incontrovertible fact that Olmert, Livni and Barak are mass-murderers and war criminals— [ Interruption. ] Yes. And they bring shame on the Jewish people whose star of David they use as a flag in Gaza, but whose ethos and morals go completely against what this Israeli Government are doing. |
and our esteemed Foreign Secretary, the Zio boy David's response ?
| David Miliband wrote: | | I think that the history and origins of the state of Israel make this conflict especially acute, especially distressing and especially painful. However, Israel should be held to the same standards as other nation states. The Jewish people have suffered enough for their history and deserve to be held to the same standards as every other nation state. I believe that the obligations that they have need to be fully implemented without fear. They need to be addressed as a matter of urgency. The democracy that Israel rightly treasures, which is rightly seen as a beacon throughout the world, needs to ensure that the actions of its Government fully adhere to the country’s obligations. |
Israeli democracy a beacon throughout the world ?
What world would that be then Milibrain ?
He could have of course responded to the question.
Or, if not, then by the unflinching law of doublespeak, he must be paraphrased from the other side of the fence.
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| A Foreign Secretary called Baraa Fayyad, deserving of the position and with the same, but different alignment as the Zio boy David, could have wrote: | | I think that the history and origins of the state of Palestine make this conflict especially acute, especially distressing and especially painful. However, Palestine should be held to the same standards as other nation states. The Palestinian people have suffered enough for their history and deserve to be held to the same standards as every other nation state. I believe that the obligations that they have need to be fully implemented without fear. They need to be addressed as a matter of urgency. The democracy that Palestine rightly treasures, which is rightly seen as a beacon throughout the world, needs to ensure that the actions of its Government fully adhere to the country’s obligations. |
One day hey . . .
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Milibrain? Hmm, he certainly has one, just uses it psychotically.
As for Kaufman's accurate comments, where else have they been published nationally, apart from Hansard, Herald and the Scotsman? No show in the Grauniad, Independent, Times, no show at all - sez a great deal for Netanyahu's grip on the western media.
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Perhaps Youtube pressure forced the Beeb to air Kaufman? Even then, they certainly didn't do it with any grace!
eg: | Quote: | Labour MP Louise Ellman said: "The Nazis were about rounding up and exterminating people because of their origins.
"What we're witnessing in Gaza is a dreadful war and the Israelis are trying to stop Hamas continuing to launch rockets from Gaza, targeting and killing and murdering Israeli citizens."
But speaking to the BBC on Friday, Sir Gerald said he was standing by his comments. |
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7834487.stm
So it's still those 'dreadful' Hamas extremists with their oh-so-sophisticated rockets? Er, right.
'Psychopaths believe whatever they can get us to believe'...
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December 18, 0009
Universal jurisdiction and impartial justice
In its shortsighted rush to protect an ally, the UK Government is undermining the wider fight for international justice
Sir, Your denunciation of the arrest warrant for Tzipi Livni (leading article, Dec 16) is misplaced. To argue that Ms Livni be shielded from justice because she is from a “democracy” that is “an ally” of the UK, is to undermine the key principle of universal jurisdiction.
How, for example, can the UK Government call for those responsible for crimes in Darfur to be brought to justice but meanwhile present a “get out of jail free” card to others it deems “friends”? Is it not this corrosive double standard that threatens the fundamental principle that justice must be at all times impartial?
The Times’s own reportage of the conflict in Gaza and southern Israel — notably Israel’s indiscriminate use of white phosphorus munitions — underlines the need for full accountability for war crimes committed during this brutal conflict.
In its shortsighted rush to protect an ally, the UK Government is undermining the wider fight for international justice on which millions around the world depend.
Kate Allen
Director, Amnesty International UK
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/letters/article6960748.ece
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