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sonic
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 Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:36 pm Post subject: Why are the Muslims so silent on 911? - American Muslim |
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Dear all,
Just read this which sums it up pretty well:
http://www.mujca.com/myth_of_911.htm
Peace,
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chipmunk stew
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:41 pm Post subject: Re: Why are the Muslims so silent on 911? - American Muslim |
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I suspect most Muslims find other methods are more productive to address their present challenges than accusing elite elements in government/shadow government of mass murder without evidence. |
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| We got the evidence and you ain't gonna stop it getting out......unless your sponsors persuade the US military to start a nuclear war first. |
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| kbo234 wrote: | | We got the evidence and you ain't gonna stop it getting out......unless your sponsors persuade the US military to start a nuclear war first. |
We aren't trying to "stop it getting out"...we are merely asking to see it! So show it already! Where is all this evidence that nothing short of global nuclear war can stop? Well? I don't hear any nuclear bombs going off...why can't you idiots supply just one fact that points to the "inside job"??? (That is, one that can't be refuted in 5 mins by a 10year old with a Kaypro and a 2400bd modem) 
Sheesh...we're not trying to stop you...we're looking to see what you've got!
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chipmunk stew
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| kbo234 wrote: | | We got the evidence and you ain't gonna stop it getting out......unless your sponsors persuade the US military to start a nuclear war first. |
I don't know why so many of you think I'm trying to stop you from questioning or presenting your case or otherwise trying to silence you. As far as I'm concerned, the more exposure you get the better.
You don't have evidence. You have questions and innuendo. You have six degrees of separation. You have fanciful interpretations of two-word quotes and low-res images. You have connect-the-dots exercises that are simply patterns created out of cherry-picked dots among what is essentially noise, like drawing constellations in the sky.
If you have evidence, present it to groups of professionals for review. Bring all your evidence on the WTC to an independent group of engineers. Bring all your evidence on aeronautics to an independent group of pilots (someone posted a pilots' BB you can present it to). Bring all your evidence of living hijackers to a group of criminal investigators, if there are any you can trust. For godsake, if you have evidence, then do something with it other than posting to like-minded folks on an activist BB. |
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| I can tell you why Muslims do not respond to 9/11. I live in within a fairly large Muslim community in Woking, a town 30 miles south west of London in the UK. I have given out copies of 9/11 DVDs such as Jimmy Walter's Confronting the Evidence, Loose Change by Dylan Avery and others. No, they have not been rejected. They have been eagerly accepted and circulated. But afterwards, there has been no response, neither from individuals, nor the leaders of the nearby mosque. It is my belief that they they are simply scared and unwilling to commit themselves publicly to that kind of activity in a country that has been known to arrest young Muslim men on no evidence of any crime being committed whatsoever and after being held for some days in unpleasant police custody, released without charge. |
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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| Jay Ref wrote: | Sheesh...we're not trying to stop you...we're looking to see what you've got!
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A casual visitor to this site might believe that statement. Some of us know better. We are familiar with these kind of games.
If your arguments were true your sponsors would have absolutely nothing to worry about and you would not be wasting your time on stupid exchanges like this.
The thing is that, as you know, what we are saying is very dangerous for Zionists and plutocrats. They know that if the public get to know the truth they would happily tear their filthy, lying, wicked bodies to shreds.
Keep it up, creep. You give us strength.
Better still, for your best interests.....know there is a God and think on your soul's immortal destiny. Hell is supposed to be a real bummer of a place. |
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sonic
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject: |
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Wokeman is quite right.
Also. There is the matter of backbiting and insulting people that Muslims wouldn't like to get drawn into, as backbiting (telling lies about people is a very serious matter in our religion. Harshness and mickey-taking are very much discouraged too. So we usually take care of what we are being drawn into as well.
We also believe that God is all seeing and all knowing and He knows exactly what is going on.
Peace,
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kbo234
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| chipmunk stew wrote: | As far as I'm concerned, the more exposure you get the better.
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Yea, that's why the film of WTC7 collapsing has been so thoroughly aired on mainstream TV.
That's why the public have all seen our accusations so regularly aired and debated.
That's why all this has happened. because your Zionist friends could not wait to trash the rubbish we spout and humiliate us before the entire world.
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Abandoned Ego
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| Posted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject: Facts. |
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Chipmunk Stew wrote ;
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No we dont Chipmunk Stew, we have facts.
Facts that go unanswered and ignored.
I posted a few of these facts which require serious answers to your buddy Jay.
I was greeted with nothing but a tirade of abuse.
The questions along with the ensuing abuse can be seen here;
http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=2693&postdays=0&post order=asc&start=15
Page 2 , about half way down.
Perhaps you would step up to the plate for him.
If you dont want to address the embarrassing truths about the current resident and the parallels we can draw with hitler ( not to mention the recurring ties we can draw between both the third reich and the current US admin, then fair enough.
But dont throw the baby out with bathwater on our forum.
Meanwhile, What I dont get about you folks, is that you have laboured for hours nit picking on technicalities, without getting serious about SERIOUS questions.
If you want to play the incompetency defense, then I wonder about the state of a democracy where such incompetency results in promotion.
I wonder about the state of your democracy when in order to silence those who HAVE answers such as Sibel Edmonds are gagged at the very highest level.
And that is putting it as politely as is humanly possible.
And I have many many more questions, but since you appear to have difficulty addressing a few mere openers, I cant really see the point of going further at this stage.
Whilst appearing here on behalf of the official conspiracy theory with all the inconcievable baggage associated with that theory is very brave of you ( my earlier points which you subsequently put down to "questions" ) indeed, Ignoring even fundamental questions such as the above doesnt show the 19 arabs conspiracy theorists in too good a light.
Not only that. You have yet to give anyone on this board your evidence for the official conspiracy theory as touted by serial liars such as Bushco. |
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chipmunk stew
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| kbo234 wrote: | | Jay Ref wrote: | Sheesh...we're not trying to stop you...we're looking to see what you've got!
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A casual visitor to this site might believe that statement. Some of us know better. We are familiar with these kind of games.
If your arguments were true your sponsors would have absolutely nothing to worry about and you would not be wasting your time on stupid exchanges like this.
The thing is that, as you know, what we are saying is very dangerous for Zionists and plutocrats. They know that if the public get to know the truth they would happily tear their filthy, lying, wicked bodies to shreds.
Keep it up, creep. You give us strength.
Better still, for your best interests.....know there is a God and think on your soul's immortal destiny. Hell is supposed to be a real bummer of a place. |
It may be foolish of me to suggest this again (who knows what kind of psycho stalker freak you might be) but honestly, kbo, you can find out a lot about me if you look up "chipmunk stew" at the JREF forums and both "chipmunk stew" and "stipmunk chew" at the Loose Change forums.
http://s15.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=439 0 |
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chipmunk stew
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| kbo234 wrote: | | chipmunk stew wrote: | As far as I'm concerned, the more exposure you get the better.
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Yea, that's why the film of WTC7 collapsing has been so thoroughly aired on mainstream TV.
That's why the public have all seen our accusations so regularly aired and debated.
That's why all this has happened. because your Zionist friends could not wait to trash the rubbish we spout and humiliate us before the entire world.
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You seriously think I have any influence whatsoever on what gets aired in the mainstream media? You're completely mental. |
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| chipmunk stew wrote: | | You seriously think I have any influence whatsoever on what gets aired in the mainstream media? You're completely mental. |
You wriggling worm. You know what I mean.......and you also know why this stuff is NEVER shown or debated. |
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| kbo234 wrote: | | chipmunk stew wrote: | | You seriously think I have any influence whatsoever on what gets aired in the mainstream media? You're completely mental. |
You wriggling worm. You know what I mean.......and you also know why this stuff is NEVER shown or debated. |
No. I don't know what you mean. I gave you my honest opinion that as far as I'm concerned the more exposure you get the better, and your response was
| Quote: | Yea, that's why the film of WTC7 collapsing has been so thoroughly aired on mainstream TV.
That's why the public have all seen our accusations so regularly aired and debated.
That's why all this has happened. because your Zionist friends could not wait to trash the rubbish we spout and humiliate us before the entire world. |
What in God's name does that have to do with the opinion I stated unless you're implying that I have some sort of influence over the mainstream media's broadcast decisions?
I mean, was that non sequitur thrown in there as a deflection or an appeal to emotion or what?
As far as it never being shown or debated, the Scholars have been all over the media recently debating this stuff. The Loose Change guys were profiled in Vanity Fair. And it's so widespread on the internet, you're bound to stumble across it if you spend any time online. Don't give me this victim story of oppression under the censoring thumb of the zionists. It's a total crock. |
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39 posts in three days - don't get so stressed, old boy!
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| Justin wrote: | | 39 posts in three days - don't get so stressed, old boy! |
Justin,
When someone disagrees with you, just repeat to your self over and over again: "Dirty shill, dirty shill, dirty shill..." until they go away.
That way, you don't have to think. It's so much easier that way.
I hope you take this advice to heart. |
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| chipmunk stew wrote: | | kbo234 wrote: | | chipmunk stew wrote: | | You seriously think I have any influence whatsoever on what gets aired in the mainstream media? You're completely mental. |
You wriggling worm. You know what I mean.......and you also know why this stuff is NEVER shown or debated. |
No. I don't know what you mean. I gave you my honest opinion that as far as I'm concerned the more exposure you get the better, and your response was
| Quote: | Yea, that's why the film of WTC7 collapsing has been so thoroughly aired on mainstream TV.
That's why the public have all seen our accusations so regularly aired and debated.
That's why all this has happened. because your Zionist friends could not wait to trash the rubbish we spout and humiliate us before the entire world. |
What in God's name does that have to do with the opinion I stated unless you're implying that I have some sort of influence over the mainstream media's broadcast decisions?
I mean, was that non sequitur thrown in there as a deflection or an appeal to emotion or what?
As far as it never being shown or debated, the Scholars have been all over the media recently debating this stuff. The Loose Change guys were profiled in Vanity Fair. And it's so widespread on the internet, you're bound to stumble across it if you spend any time online. Don't give me this victim story of oppression under the censoring thumb of the zionists. It's a total crock. |
Careful man...these guys are shaping up to be bigger kooks than the Loosers. Some of them may be rather dangerous. I think the Brits have a bigger problem with skin-head types than we do. Funny, the kind of people Dylan will find himself waking up next to in his bed of trooth. I bet he never thought he'd get to be in tight with the kind of people who think the dirty joos run the world...
Kb0234, are you a real neo-Nazi or didja just stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
Hey man, like, you know, I'm just asking questions!
-z
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Justin,
Have you seen "Life of Brian"? There is a classic bit in it where a man says "I was blind but now I can see!!" (claiming that Brian cured him) and then falls down a massive hole in front of him which means
1) He was lying
2) He obviously can't see
He can't see this hole, even so it's about 20 feet across and right in front of him! It's a hilarious scene!
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| Jay Ref wrote: |
We aren't trying to "stop it getting out"...we are merely asking to see it! So show it already! Where is all this evidence that nothing short of global nuclear war can stop? Well? I don't hear any nuclear bombs going off...why can't you idiots supply just one fact that points to the "inside job"??? (That is, one that can't be refuted in 5 mins by a 10year old with a Kaypro and a 2400bd modem)
Sheesh...we're not trying to stop you...we're looking to see what you've got!
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I just had to post this again. It's just class! Thanks for frequenting our board!
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"What sir? No sir!"
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| chipmunk stew wrote: | Justin,
When someone disagrees with you, just repeat to your self over and over again: "Dirty shill, dirty shill, dirty shill..." until they go away.
That way, you don't have to think. It's so much easier that way.
I hope you take this advice to heart. |
Chippy old boy, let me apologise for Justin - he's probably been on the beers tonight and well, ye know, it's Friday - he has a lot of family pressures and he just gets a bit carried away sometimes.
I think you might even find he apologises to you once his head has cleared in the morning 'n' that
OK, chuck?
Sorry again.
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Kb0234, are you a real neo-Nazi or didja just stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
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You don't have to be a Nazi to loathe Zionism.
Apart from being ungodly in itself, this 'creed' or 'politico-religio-racist' philosophy or whatever it is....this thing is being used by forces that have been creating wars for the last 100+ years in order to advance their interests. These forces are peopled by individuals who are not really Zionists. They get other people to believe in Zionism and then use those people to create the political changes they desire. The Rothschilds and the rest are VERY intelligent. Jews have been almost completely successfully suckered into allegiance to Zionism through the creation of a new religion, 'The Holocaust'.
You can now be put into jail for even suggesting that the facts of the holocaust are historically debatable (I would not suggest that the holocaust never happened, by the way).
Jews have also been seduced by the reality that these money powers (they create money out of nothing and charge us for the privelege) have chosen their group (the Jews) to be disproportionately wealthy. Jews own most of the US and most of the UK. Jews who reject the idea of Zionism seem to me (I can't claim to be an expert) to be black sheep, outcasts, not doing quite so well. Of course, Also it is unfair to say that all Jews are wealthy....but the fact remains that the entire media is controlled by Zionist Jews. The biggest businesses, food suppliers, even football clubs are owned by Jews....and , of course, the banks. This means that if you have a mortgage, the major shareholders in the bank own your house. We know who these people are. It is no surprise that this group control government. It is no surprise that we have 3 major political parties in this country and they are all basically the same. It is no surprise that the single most important political fact of life, who creates our money, is a non-issue.
9/11 was an absolutely evil horrendous f****** crime. I believe I know who did it. I think I know what you are up to. I loathe your operation and you for working for these evil creeps.
However, a Nazi I most definitely ain't. Neither is anyone else in this group I have ever met, even if they do get angry occasionally.
I believe I am trying to save my children and this world from people like your masters and you. I don't personally expect to succeed but I'm pretty sure that whatever disasters befall me it is going to be worse for the Zionist power nexus and their supporters.
The sad thing is that Jews have so fallen for this deadly nonsense. We need them on our side. Jews, the most spiritual of people, have always led protest and anti-establishment movements. We need you now. Wake Up!!!
I have a website:
www.ifthewebsite.com
Read the books on it. Listen to the music. Still think I'm a Nazi?
Oh, by the way, I did say that the forces promoting Zionism are not actually Zionists themselves (it might please them to destroy Israel quite soon, they really don't care about ordinary Jews). Absolutely amazing though it might seem, they are Satanists.(look up Adam Weishaupt and Albert Pike in "Satan, Prince of this World"). Read Henry Makow, a Jewish writer ( www.savethemales.ca ). |
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| Quote: | When someone disagrees with you, just repeat to your self over and over again: "Dirty shill, dirty shill, dirty shill..." until they go away.
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| Posted: Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Why are the Muslims so silent on 911? - American Muslim |
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That is extremely moving Sonic and a wonderful find, thankyou
As for the why western Muslims are not more vocal about 911 and the War of Terror, well it takes very little empathy to know the answer, and whilst that is regretable, equally its not ethical to expect others to put themselves in harm's way
Being as free thinkers are not currently the active target of the PTB, using our freedom of speach has never been more important
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Thank you John White.
I appreciate your feedback on the article.
Peace,
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There's a Thread being debated at the moment on Liberty Forum and NOLAJBS whether a rash of uploads by certain posters constitutes a "boiler room", which I take to be American for the swamping of the threads with cut-and-paste jobs, ad hominem remarks, and nonsensical asides
Are Jay Ref, Chipmuk Stew, et al running a "Boiler Room" here?
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| dean_saor wrote: | There's a Thread being debated at the moment on Liberty Forum and NOLAJBS whether a rash of uploads by certain posters constitutes a "boiler room", which I take to be American for the swamping of the threads with cut-and-paste jobs, ad hominem remarks, and nonsensical asides
Are Jay Ref, Chipmuk Stew, et al running a "Boiler Room" here? |
Hm. Never heard that term before.
...Oh, and no. We're not. Check my posting history. I haven't cut-and-pasted a thing, I've tried and mostly succeeded at avoiding personal attacks (despite being baited many times), and most of my posts are topical and direct responses to other posts. |
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| kbo234 wrote: | | Jay Ref wrote: |
Kb0234, are you a real neo-Nazi or didja just stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night?
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You don't have to be a Nazi to loathe Zionism.
Apart from being ungodly in itself, this 'creed' or 'politico-religio-racist' philosophy or whatever it is....this thing is being used by forces that have been creating wars for the last 100+ years in order to advance their interests. These forces are peopled by individuals who are not really Zionists. They get other people to believe in Zionism and then use those people to create the political changes they desire. The Rothschilds and the rest are VERY intelligent. Jews have been almost completely successfully suckered into allegiance to Zionism through the creation of a new religion, 'The Holocaust'. |
So you're a Holocaust denier? Colour me not surprised.
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You can now be put into jail for even suggesting that the facts of the holocaust are historically debatable (I would not suggest that the holocaust never happened, by the way). |
No? Then why do you call it a religion? Religions have no evidence and ask for faith and belief. The Holocaust is a MATTER OF HISTORICAL RECORD. If you are not a wingnut Nazi HDer...you sure do act like one for some reason.
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Jews have also been seduced by the reality that these money powers (they create money out of nothing and charge us for the privelege) have chosen their group (the Jews) to be disproportionately wealthy. Jews own most of the US and most of the UK. Jews who reject the idea of Zionism seem to me (I can't claim to be an expert) to be black sheep, outcasts, not doing quite so well. Of course, Also it is unfair to say that all Jews are wealthy....but the fact remains that the entire media is controlled by Zionist Jews. The biggest businesses, food suppliers, even football clubs are owned by Jews....and , of course, the banks. This means that if you have a mortgage, the major shareholders in the bank own your house. We know who these people are. It is no surprise that this group control government. It is no surprise that we have 3 major political parties in this country and they are all basically the same. It is no surprise that the single most important political fact of life, who creates our money, is a non-issue. |
Mythological rubbish. Do you think for yourself? Or do you regurgitate falsehoods from Aryan Brotherhood websites?
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9/11 was an absolutely evil horrendous f****** crime. I believe I know who did it. I think I know what you are up to. I loathe your operation and you for working for these evil creeps. |
You don't know me. I come here to counter the disturbing neo-nazi propaganda you spew. I'm no Jew...but if I were I'd surely have no qualms about telling you so.
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However, a Nazi I most definitely ain't. Neither is anyone else in this group I have ever met, even if they do get angry occasionally. |
Then why did you start this thread by pointing out the works of a member of the Aryan Brotherhood? Why are you regurgitating anti-semetic libels usually only found on neo-Nazi websites? Why do you have such a hard on for the joos?
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I believe I am trying to save my children and this world from people like your masters and you. I don't personally expect to succeed but I'm pretty sure that whatever disasters befall me it is going to be worse for the Zionist power nexus and their supporters. |
The 14 words. Notice any similarities?
| Quote: | he Fourteen Words is a White nationalist phrase frequently used by White nationalists and neo-nazis. The slogan was coined by David Lane, an imprisoned member of The Order. It states: We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children. It is often used as a greeting to affirm one's affiliation with White Pride.
Their origin can be traced to Volume 1, Chapter 8 of Adolf Hitler's Mein Kampf: "What we must fight for is to safeguard the existence and reproduction of our race and our people, the sustenance of our children and the purity of our blood, the freedom and independence of the fatherland, so that our people may mature for the fulfillment of the mission allotted it by the creator of the universe."
Sometimes the slogan is spraypainted or used to deface property in order to mark "turf" in prisons and other urban areas (often stylized as 14W), so it can be considered a gang symbol as well. It is sometimes combined with '88' as in '14/88', '1488' or '8814'. The '88' stands for the eighth letter of the alphabet twice, or 'HH', the initials of Heil Hitler. '88' can also stand for the book '88 Precepts' |
If you are not a neo-nazi you should look into joining them. You'd get along quite famously I'm sure.
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The sad thing is that Jews have so fallen for this deadly nonsense. We need them on our side. Jews, the most spiritual of people, have always led protest and anti-establishment movements. We need you now. Wake Up!!!
I have a website:
www.ifthewebsite.com
Read the books on it. Listen to the music. Still think I'm a Nazi?
Oh, by the way, I did say that the forces promoting Zionism are not actually Zionists themselves (it might please them to destroy Israel quite soon, they really don't care about ordinary Jews). Absolutely amazing though it might seem, they are Satanists.(look up Adam Weishaupt and Albert Pike in "Satan, Prince of this World"). Read Henry Makow, a Jewish writer ( www.savethemales.ca ). |
Yup...I do.
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ian neal
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Hi Jay Ref and Chipmunk stew
I'm not commenting on this thread as such. My views on how the connections between zionism and Israel and 9/11 should be discussed are found on most threads where this issue is raised
My request is that you respect the decision that you (as clearly critical voices) confine you posts to the critics corner as explained here
I have no problem with you linking to this thread or cut and pasting the content in order to initiate a thread or discussion
Also can I repeat the request that all posters treat each other with respect. The critics corner is an experiemnt that will only work if all sides are respectful |
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chipmunk stew
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| ian neal wrote: | Hi Jay Ref and Chipmunk stew
I'm not commenting on this thread as such. My views on how the connections between zionism and Israel and 9/11 should be discussed are found on most threads where this issue is raised
My request is that you respect the decision that you (as clearly critical voices) confine you posts to the critics corner as explained here
I have no problem with you linking to this thread or cut and pasting the content in order to initiate a thread or discussion
Also can I repeat the request that all posters treat each other with respect. The critics corner is an experiemnt that will only work if all sides are respectful |
ian, I am perfectly willing to respect that request if I feel inclined to respond to a general point. But if my alias is referenced directly, as in | Quote: | | Are Jay Ref, Chipmuk Stew, et al running a "Boiler Room" here? |
I would hope you would respect my right to respond directly. |
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