Tue14Apr - LONDON - David Ray Griffin European tour

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LONDON April 14th. David Ray Griffin European Tour

If you are fairly new to 9/11 Truth and in London on this date I would recommend this event. DRG Professor Emeritus of Philosophy and Theology has one of those analytical minds which just opens up the various events of 9/11.
Author of numerous books "The New Pearl Harbour," "The 9/11 Commission Report Omissions and Distortions,""Debunking 9/11 Debunking"
Google or youtube him for a taster.

Further details posted when confirmed

[TonyGosling]

Has DRG been asked whether he would like to speak at other UK venues?

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[The Watcher]

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[paul wright]

Hmmm - I'm a great fan of Horowitz's work and Ian Crane and even our Tony
Still, I'm not sure about the potentially huge individual cost of this event, within the shadow of Heathrow, and with its hierarchical levels of access of Gold Silver and Bronze and presumably the poor lumpen left out in the street
In times of alleged recession it seems a little distasteful
It's starting to resemble a corporate event - where can we find the funding?
If I were of a mind, I'd organise a Facebook flash mob appearing saying "give us some truth- for nothing"
Well, you know, I'm very much against everything should be given away free, and I know expenses have to be paid,not least for getting Horowitz out of his Hawaian retreat. but this kind of event is very discriminatory against those of little means and only available to the well-padded "conspiracy theorist"
Its most positive outcome is likely to be 40 or 50 quids worth of DVDs which will get posted to YouTube and Torrent sites for the poorer folks to download
Do it in a camping field in summer next time
Downsize, you mutts

[ianrcrane]

Hi Paul,

your comments are disappointing ... if not exactly unexpected!

I make no apologies for scaling the AV2 event as a major production. A few years ago I envisioned being able to stage such an event under the guise of 9/11 Truth but the experience of the 2006 David Ray Griffin event in London was an abject lesson in all the reasons that this would never happen!

The first Alternative View event was held in Totnes last April. This event was effectively staged by a team of three; my friend and colleague Simon Morris and myself, plus a paid Administrator. Although the event was hailed as a tremendous success, I was out of pocket to the tune of some £5,000!

Having learned many valuable lessons from staging AV1 and embraced the support of some outstanding team players; we are now promoting AV2. We have spent many months locating a suitable venue and negotiating with the hotel, in an effort to provide a top quality event, at a top quality venue at a reasonable price.

The Speakers panel for AV2 is not yet complete as I am waiting on a couple of other confirmations but with Dr Len Horowitz as the headline speaker it will be a memorable event.

It is unfortunate that some people will view the event as 'elitist' when we are able to offer three nights B&B, in a quality hotel, plus a Conference ticket for under £200. There are opportunities to upgrade if you are so inclined but this event is aimed at those people who would never consider going to an event in a 'field'. Starting with my wife ... whose idea of camping is a three-star hotel!

To label this event as being 'corporate' is perhaps a compliment because we will indeed be staging a quality event that would cost at least three times what we will be spending, if it were being staged on a commercial basis. We are only able to do this due to the commitment of all those involved. There is still only one person on the payroll (i.e. the administrator); everyone else will, at best, recover their expenses. If it were any other way, the ticket price would be significantly higher.

We have already secured some outstanding speakers for future AV events and hope to launch The Alternative View Magazine later this year.

Meanwhile, it just so happens that AV2 is being staged the same weekend as the Sunrise festival (entrance £99pp + parking). I was scheduled to be speaking at the Sunrise event last year but it was rained off. So you do have the option of a 'field' if that's what you want.

Wishing you well for the future.


Ian R Crane

[Ed]

Does anyone happen to know if the European tour is confirmed ?

Also does anyone know how to contact him ?

Thanks for the info

[TonyGosling]

DRG may want to do several UK dates. I would have thought that could be arranged by the organisers.

[Stefan]

At present the David Ray Griffin tour is very much on the same model as the (fire alarms not withstanding) successful Richard Gage tour - there will be one UK date, which will be officially announced very soon.

The logical aim is for him to cover as much of Europe as he can in the available time.

More will be announced soon.

[Stefan]

On the "preaching to the choir" suggestion - are you aware that around half of the audience of the Richard Gage lecture in London were architects and engineers who had been especially invited to the event?

[Frazzel]

those of us on meagre incomes, could we at least get to see the talks of the av2 speakers if someone could be kind enough to video tape them and put them on the internet?

thr richard gage talk was a success in that so many who attended were architects engineers or students and many hadnt been to a 911 event before.many became sceptical of the official version of 911 for the first time, after hearing mr gage speak. its a pity that it was only one talk in london. it would have been good to see him talk at other venues in britain to simialr audiences ie manchester, edinburgh, for example. im sure the same will be the case for prof griffin.

could the sponsors of these european tours perhaps include at least one northern venue? as well as a london venue?

[TonyGosling]

Good question.

Has DRG been asked whether he has time for more than one talk. Particularly since it would give the wider network of activists a role and generate lots of local publicity. Seems a long way to come just for one talk.

Also any disruption of the talk disrupts the entire visit. It was impossible for any British filmmaker to record Richard Gage properly because of ripping sounds (due to sellotape) and the fire alarm.

[Annie]

Hi Frazzel

I take your point - in fact originally I did discuss the possibility of an event in Liverpool with the organisers up there. However, there just wasn't time to fit in more than one event in the UK.

DRG will be speaking in 10 major cities across Europe in April and May, starting in London on 14th April. The tour website will be up imminently, and Gareth is organising the event in London.

Regards

Annie x

[Frazzel]

14 th April City University, +44 (0)20 7040 5060
Northampton Square, London, EC1V 0HB

Talk by Prof David Ray Griffin esteemed 911 author of:
'911 The New Pearl Harbour'
'Debunking 911 Debunking'