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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:20 am    Post subject: Browns Gas Reply with quote

http://www.brownsgas.com/hhogasgenerator_fuel_saver_technology.html

This seems to be a kind of open source site where fuel saving technology is discussed.
There are also products for sale, one system from someone in Lancs seems to be going for 500 quid on tee bay with some remarkble claims.
I'm more interested in getting as many people as possible to have a look at the 'how to make your own' section. There is a lot of information on this site and the more it gets looked at and tried and tested and used, well, less petrol getting used has got to be good thing.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lol, or you could buy one of these
http://uk.cars.yahoo.com/14102008/36/first-electric-porsche-announced- 0.html
only 90 grand.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Or one of these...

Air Car
http://www.mdi.lu/english/

Made to look as sheet s possible or what?
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 15, 2009 12:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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After a month of having their assets and website frozen by a US Federal Trade Commission (FTC) injunction, Dennis Lee and Dutchman Enterprises were exonerated Wednesday by NJ Federal Judge, Michael Shipp who ruled in favor of Lee and Dutchman, who have been selling a "Hydrogen Assist Fuel Cell" (HAFC) that they "guarantee" to improve mileage by at least 50%. Lee is free of all encumbrances.



http://pesn.com/2009/02/13/9501523_Dennis_Lee_victorious_against_FTC/
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This thread seems appropriate for this article which I stumbled on today. Just think of the possibilities if it is true.

http://rawstory.com/news/afp/Scientists_in_possible_cold_fusion__03242 009.html

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Scientists in possible cold fusion breakthrough

Published: Tuesday March 24, 2009

Researchers at a US Navy laboratory have unveiled what they say is "significant" evidence of cold fusion, a potential energy source that has many skeptics in the scientific community.

The scientists on Monday described what they called the first clear visual evidence that low-energy nuclear reaction (LENR), or cold fusion devices can produce neutrons, subatomic particles that scientists say are indicative of nuclear reactions.

"Our finding is very significant," said analytical chemist Pamela Mosier-Boss of the US Navy's Space and Naval Warfare Systems Center (SPAWAR) in San Diego, California.

"To our knowledge, this is the first scientific report of the production of highly energetic neutrons from a LENR device," added the study's co-author in a statement.

The study's results were presented at the annual meeting of the American Chemical Society in Salt Lake City, Utah.

The city is also the site of an infamous presentation on cold fusion 20 years ago by Martin Fleishmann and Stanley Pons that sent shockwaves across the world.

Despite their claim to cold fusion discovery, the Fleishmann-Pons study soon fell into discredit after other researchers were unable to reproduce the results.

Scientists have been working for years to produce cold fusion reactions, a potentially cheap, limitless and environmentally-clean source of energy.

Paul Padley, a physicist at Rice University who reviewed Mosier-Boss's published work, said the study did not provide a plausible explanation of how cold fusion could take place in the conditions described.

"It fails to provide a theoretical rationale to explain how fusion could occur at room temperatures. And in its analysis, the research paper fails to exclude other sources for the production of neutrons," he told the Houston Chronicle.

"The whole point of fusion is, you?re bringing things of like charge together. As we all know, like things repel, and you have to overcome that repulsion somehow."

But Steven Krivit, editor of the New Energy Times, said the study was "big" and could open a new scientific field.

The neutrons produced in the experiments "may not be caused by fusion but perhaps some new, unknown nuclear process," added Krivit, who has monitored cold fusion studies for the past 20 years.

"We're talking about a new field of science that's a hybrid between chemistry and physics."

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http://www.wanttoknow.info/energy/cold_fusion_reactor

12 minute video at link above.

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Cold Fusion Reactor
CBS's 60 Minutes Reports on Resurgence of Cold Fusion


"Scientists today like to call it a nuclear effect rather than cold fusion. At least 20 labs working independently have published reports of excess heat - heat up to 25 times greater than the electricity going in. And we've found that the Pentagon is saying it too. The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, known as DARPA, did its own analysis and 60 Minutes obtained an internal memo that concludes there is 'no doubt that anomalous excess heat is produced in these experiments.'"
-- CBS 60 Minutes, 4/19/09



Dear friends,

The cold fusion debate was quickly settled by top scientists and the mainstream media shortly after the first successful experiments using table top cold fusion were announced in 1989. The phenomenon was thoroughly debunked and declared dead in the water. The scientists who made the announcement became the laughing stocks of science. Yet they never recanted their belief in their work. A recent segment on CBS's 60 Minutes now may be providing vindication. You can watch and/or read the text of this fascinating 12-minute segment below, which mentions that even the Pentagon has now stated that the cold fusion phenomenon is real.

Yet even back in 1989, dozens of scientists were getting positive results in attempting to duplicate the cold fusion experiments. The work of these scientists was suppressed. Most of them were mocked and ridiculed, with some even having to leave their work as a result. Hundreds more later joined the little-known cold fusion movement, only to find that they, too, were scoffed at by their colleagues. Even though their carefully conducted experiments showed striking anomalies and excess heat as a result of apparent fusion happening near room temperature, these scientists had great difficulty finding any funding for further verification.

Dr. Eugene Mallove was the Chief Science Writer at MIT when the cold fusion news broke in 1989. The story of his personal involvement is quite revealing. "One day while at MIT, I inadvertently was looking through some piles of paper by physicists doing their repeat of the [cold fusion] experiment. To my utter astonishment, I can remember sitting at my desk and seeing two sheets of paper. The July 10 control experiment showed in the raw data excess heat. But then, on July 13, it was shifted completely. It was altered. Clear fraud—no question. I asked for a review at MIT. I got nowhere. Yet today, MIT data is held up."

Here's a quote from a Nov. 16, 2004 article in the Washington Post on another convert to cold fusion:

"Brilliant," "genius" and "reclusive" were words used to describe [SRI scientist Peter] Hagelstein. 20 years ago ... he made his mark designing the X-ray laser that was to be the centerpiece of Reagan's "Star Wars" anti-ballistic missile system. As Hagelstein explains it, leading physicists came out swiftly and prematurely against cold fusion. He has seen enough cold fusion data to convince him that the science is clearly real. [After exploring cold fusion], Hagelstein faced a series of personal reverses. He has tenure at MIT, but he never made full professor. When his funding ran out, he eventually lost his lab space, his secretary, even his office.

There is much more to the cold fusion debate than most people know. The media has only rarely focused on the many successes in the field. To watch a powerful, engaging documentary showing clear fraud and suppression titled Heavy Watergate, The War Against Cold Fusion, click here. Those who stand to lose many billions of dollars if these inventions succeed will often go to any lengths to stop them. For an excellent, two-page summary of intriguing new energy inventions and a brief history of their suppression, click here.

The exciting news is that with the increasing transparency of the Internet, suppressing these exciting new discoveries and inventions is becoming ever more difficult. There are dozens of websites covering these topics which the mainstream media rarely gives much attention. For lots more information and what you can do to help transform our world through these new energy inventions, see the "What You Can Do" box near the bottom of this page. Thanks for caring, and have a wonderful day.

With best wishes,

Fred Burks for PEERS and the WantToKnow.info Team



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Cold Fusion Is Hot Again
Once Considered Junk Science, Cold Fusion Gets A Second Look By Researchers

Twenty years ago it appeared, for a moment, that all our energy problems could be solved. It was the announcement of cold fusion - nuclear energy like that which powers the sun - but at room temperature on a table top. It promised to be cheap, limitless and clean. Cold fusion would end our dependence on the Middle East and stop those greenhouse gases blamed for global warming. It would change everything. But then, just as quickly as it was announced, it was discredited. So thoroughly, that cold fusion became a catch phrase for junk science. Well, a funny thing happened on the way to oblivion - for many scientists today, cold fusion is hot again.

"We can yield the power of nuclear physics on a tabletop. The potential is unlimited. That is the most powerful energy source known to man," researcher Michael McKubre told 60 Minutes correspondent Scott Pelley. McKubre says he has seen that energy more than 50 times in cold fusion experiments he's doing at SRI International, a respected California lab that does extensive work for the government.

McKubre is an electro-chemist who imagines, in 20 years, the creation of a clean nuclear battery. "For example, a laptop would come pre-charged with all of the energy that you would ever intend to use. You're now decoupled from your charger and the wall socket," he explained. The same would go for cars. "The potential is for an energy source that would run your car for three, four years, for example. And you'd take it in for service every four years and they'd give you a new power supply," McKubre told Pelley.

"Power stations?" Pelley asked. "You can imagine a one for one plug in replacement for nuclear fuel rods. And the difference only would be that at the end of the lifetime of that fuel rod, you didn't have radioactive waste that needed to be disposed of," McKubre replied. He showed 60 Minutes just how simple the experiment looks; there are only three main ingredients. First, there is palladium, a metal in the platinum family. Second, one needs a kind of hydrogen called deuterium which is found in seawater.

"Deuterium is essentially unlimited. There is ten times as much energy in a gallon of sea water, from the deuterium contained within it, than there is in a gallon of gasoline," he explained. The palladium is placed in water containing deuterium and the third ingredient is an electric current. The experiment is wrapped in insulation and instruments. They're looking for what they call "excess heat." In other words, is more energy coming out than the electric current puts in?

No one knows exactly how excess heat would be generated, but McKubre showed 60 Minutes what he thinks is happening. At the atomic level, palladium looks like a lattice and the electricity drives the deuterium to the palladium. "They sit on the surface and they pop inside the lattice," he explained, using an artist's rendition of the lattice. McKubre believes there is a nuclear reaction - possibly a fusion process like what happens in the sun, but occurring inside the metal, at a slower rate, and without dangerous radiation.

Scientists today like to call it a nuclear effect rather than cold fusion. At least 20 labs working independently have published reports of excess heat - heat up to 25 times greater than the electricity going in.

"This little piece of palladium metal has about a third as much energy as the battery in your automobile. So very small volumes, very small masses can produce large amounts of energy," he explained, holding a small piece of palladium foil weighing just 0.3 grams.

McKubre has been working on this since that first discredited claim of cold fusion made headlines 20 years ago. "To work on this issue is almost to put your scientific credibility at risk and I wonder why you've done it?" Pelley asked. "My belief is that if there's a one percent chance that Fleischmann and Pons were correct, and I now believe that possibility is 99 percent. I have a duty to work on it," he replied.

Martin Fleischmann and Stanley Pons amazed the world in 1989 with their cold fusion news conference at the University of Utah. Fleischmann in particular was one of the world's leading electro-chemists, and the announcement of room temperature fusion set the world on fire. Immediately, prestigious labs at MIT and Caltech rushed to reproduce the experiment, but didn't get the same results as Fleischmann and Pons.

[Note: Dr. Eugene Mallove worked at MIT at the time. He was stunned to see with his own eyes that the original figures in the MIT experiments showed clear excess heat when they came across his desk as science editor there, yet days later they were changed - a clear fabrication to debunk cold fusion. Read his statement here.]

The careers of Fleischmann and Pons were destroyed as quickly as a nuclear flash - names once linked to a Nobel Prize were forgotten by nearly everyone. And most of the scientific world today is happy to leave it that way.

"I'm still waiting for the water heaters. I'm still waiting for the thing that will produce heat on demand," Richard Garwin, one of the most respected physicists in the world, told Pelley. In the 1950s, he helped design the most successful fusion experiment of all time: the hydrogen bomb. "It was unfortunately, a very successful experiment," Garwin told Pelley.

Garwin was a critic of Martin Fleischmann back in 1989. And he has seen reports on the research that's been done since. He thinks McKubre is mistaken. Asked why, Garwin said, "I think probably he measures the input power wrong." It's one of the most common criticisms of cold fusion experiments - that the amount of electricity going in and the heat coming out are simply mismeasured.

"It's possible, it is possible, that I have been mismeasuring energy for 20 years, but I think it extremely unlikely. A very large number of people have been making these measurements and measurements of current, voltage, temperature, resistance they're some of the simplest measurements that a physicist or a physical scientist will measure," McKubre said.

But there's another problem that critics point out: the experiments produce excess heat at best 70 percent of the time; it can take days or weeks for the excess heat to show up. And it's never the same amount of energy twice. "I require that you be able to make one of these things, replicate it, put it here. It heats up the cup of tea. I'll drink the tea. Then you make me another cup of tea. And I'll drink that too. That's not it," Garwin said. He told Pelley that for him to become a believer, the process would have to work 100 percent of the time.

But McKubre said, "Our critics often complain that we can't boil water to make tea. We could have, in fact, boiled 64 gallons of water and made 1,000 cups of tea, had we chosen to do so." No one's sure why the experiments can't be consistently reproduced. McKubre thinks it has something to do with how the palladium is prepared. He's working with an Italian government lab called ENEA where some of the most reliable palladium is made.

With so many open questions, 60 Minutes wanted to find out whether cold fusion is more than a tempest in a teapot. So 60 Minutes asked the American Physical Society, the top physics organization in America, to recommend an independent scientist. They gave us Rob Duncan, vice chancellor of research at the University of Missouri and an expert in measuring energy.

"When we first called you and said 'We'd like you to look into cold fusion for 60 Minutes,' what did you think when you hung up the phone?" Pelley asked Duncan. "I think my first reaction was something like, 'Well, hasn't that been debunked?'" he replied.

We asked Duncan to go with 60 Minutes to Israel, where a lab called Energetics Technologies has reported some of the biggest energy gains yet. Duncan spent two days examining cold fusion experiments and investigating whether the measurements were accurate. Asked what he thought when he left the Israeli lab, Duncan told Pelley, "I thought, 'Wow. They've done something very interesting here.'"

He crunched the numbers himself and searched for an explanation other than a nuclear effect. "I found that the work done was carefully done, and that the excess heat, as I see it now, is quite real," Duncan said. Asked if was surprised that he'd hear himself saying that, Duncan told Pelley, "Very much. I never thought I'd say that."

And we've found that the Pentagon is saying it too. The Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency, known as DARPA, did its own analysis and 60 Minutes obtained an internal memo that concludes there is "no doubt that anomalous excess heat is produced in these experiments."

Asked if he feels vindicated after all these years, McKubre told Pelley with a smile, "I don't have any real need for vindication. I know what I've seen." "That was a pretty big smile on your face though," Pelley pointed out. "It's good. It's not bad. Certainly it’s good," McKubre replied.

Now the Pentagon is funding more experiments at the naval research lab in Washington, D.C. and at McKubre's lab in California. 60 Minutes wondered what Richard Garwin would think of the Defense Department's appraisal. "The experiments leave 'no doubt that anomalous, excess heat is produced,'" Pelley told Garwin. "Well, that’s a statement," Garwin said. "I am living proof that there's doubt. Now, they can say that there, that excess heat is being produced. But they can't say there's no doubt. All they can say is they don't doubt. But I doubt."

"If you ask me, is this going to have any impact on our energy policy, it’s impossible to say, because we don't fundamentally understand the process yet. But to say, because we don't fundamentally understand the process and that's why we're not going to study it, is like saying, 'I'm too sick to go to the doctor,'" Duncan argued.

"You know, I wonder how you feel about going public endorsing this phenomenon on 60 Minutes when maybe 90 percent, I'm guessing, of your colleagues think that it's crackpot science?" Pelley asked. "I certainly was among those 90 percent before I looked at the data. And I can see where they’ll be very concerned when they see this piece. All I have to say is: read the published results. Talk to the scientists. Never let anyone do your thinking for you," he replied.

There was one more scientist 60 Minutes wanted to find, a man who left America in disgrace and retired with his wife to the English countryside. Martin Fleischmann, the man who announced cold fusion to the world, is hindered by years, diabetes, Parkinson's disease and maybe a little bitterness. At home, he pulled out an improved version of his experiment, something that he was working on when he was hounded out of science.

"When you hold that in your hand and you think back on what's happened these last 20 years, what do you think?" Pelley asked. "A wasted opportunity," Fleischman replied. He thinks this way because it was discredited at the time. He told Pelley he has two regrets: calling the nuclear effect "fusion," a name coined by a competitor, and having that news conference, something he says the University of Utah wanted.

"Now that you know that your experiments have been replicated and, and improved upon in labs all over the world I wonder, do you see a day when homes will be powered by these cells, when cars will be powered by these cells?" Pelley asked. "I think so. It wouldn’t take very long to implement this," Fleischman replied, laughing. "You make me feel that I should take a part in this?"

"I'm getting you interested again?" Pelley asked. "Yes," Fleischmann replied, laughing. "The potential is exciting."


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