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AMERICA'S WAR ON THE WEB

 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 5:38 am    Post subject: AMERICA'S WAR ON THE WEB Reply with quote

I would confidently suggest that 'gravy', 'chipmunk stew' and the rest of the newcomers who have arrived on this site and immediately and ferociously attacked every detail of evidence that suggests an 'inside job' are paid employees and a part of the propaganda effort described in the article below.

Initially, I used to try to engage seriously with this type of visitor but no longer. These people are clearly (to any thinking individual) educated, sourced and trained in strategy to disrupt and destroy sites like this. They do not engage honestly with issues. Their strategy is to challenge every single detail of our arguments and observations so that visitors to our site will become so confused from straining at gnats that they will continue happily swallowing camels.

By accepting this type of employment these individuals must accept partial guilt for the crimes of 9/11.

Most posters here know that 9/11 was an inside job. We may be slow witted but we are not stupid and no amount of this desperate rubbish will alter the fact that 9/11 awareness is exploding out into our communities and will continue to do so until those who are suppressing this information are forced to acknowledge the truth.

When that day arrives there will hopefully be a reckoning and the criminals (and their creepy acolytes) will be held accountable.

Article from Scotland's Sunday Herald

America's war on the web



While the US remains committed to hunting down al-Qaeda operatives, it is now
taking the battle to new fronts. Deep within the Pentagon, technologies are being
deployed to wage the war on terror on the internet, in newspapers and even
through mobile phones. Investigations editor Neil Mackay reports



IMAGINE a world where wars are fought over the internet; where TV broadcasts and newspaper reports are designed by the military to confuse the population; and where a foreign armed power can shut down your computer, phone, radio or TV at will.
In 2006, we are just about to enter such a world. This is the age of information warfare, and details of how this new military doctrine will affect everyone on the planet are contained in a report, entitled The Information Operations Roadmap, commissioned and approved by US secretary of defence Donald Rumsfeld and seen by the Sunday Herald.

The Pentagon has already signed off $383 million to force through the document’s recommendations by 2009. Military and intelligence sources in the US talk of “a revolution in the concept of warfare”. The report orders three new developments in America’s approach to warfare:

lFirstly, the Pentagon says it will wage war against the internet in order to dominate the realm of communications, prevent digital attacks on the US and its allies, and to have the upper hand when launching cyber-attacks against enemies.

lSecondly, psychological military operations, known as psyops, will be at the heart of future military action. Psyops involve using any media – from newspapers, books and posters to the internet, music, Blackberrys and personal digital assistants (PDAs) – to put out black propaganda to assist government and military strategy. Psyops involve the dissemination of lies and fake stories and releasing information to wrong-foot the enemy.

lThirdly, the US wants to take control of the Earth’s electromagnetic spectrum, allowing US war planners to dominate mobile phones, PDAs, the web, radio, TV and other forms of modern communication. That could see entire countries denied access to telecommunications at the flick of a switch by America.

Freedom of speech advocates are horrified at this new doctrine, but military planners and members of the intelligence community embrace the idea as a necessary development in modern combat.

Human rights lawyer John Scott, who chairs the Scottish Centre for Human Rights, said: “This is an unwelcome but natural development of what we have seen. I find what is said in this document to be frightening, and it needs serious parliamentary scrutiny.”

Crispin Black – who has worked for the Joint Intelligence Committee, and has been an Army lieutenant colonel, a military intelligence officer, a member of the Defence Intelligence Staff and a Cabinet Office intelligence analyst who briefed Number 10 – said he broadly supported the report as it tallied with the Pentagon’s over-arching vision for “full spectrum dominance” in all military matters.

“I’m all for taking down al-Qaeda websites. Shutting down enemy propaganda is a reasonable course of action. Al-Qaeda is very good at [information warfare on the internet], so we need to catch up. The US needs to lift its game,” he said.

This revolution in information warfare is merely an extension of the politics of the “neoconservative” Bush White House. Even before getting into power, key players in Team Bush were planning total military and political domination of the globe. In September 2000, the now notorious document Rebuilding America’s Defences – written by the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), a think-tank staffed by some of the Bush presidency’s leading lights – said that America needed a “blueprint for maintaining US global pre-eminence, precluding the rise of a great power-rival, and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests”.

The PNAC was founded by Dick Cheney, the vice-president; Donald Rumsfeld, the defence secretary; Bush’s younger brother, Jeb; Paul Wolfowitz, once Rumsfeld’s deputy and now head of the World Bank; and Lewis Libby, Cheney’s former chief of staff, now indicted for perjury in America.

Rebuilding America’s Defences also spoke of taking control of the internet. A heavily censored version of the document was released under Freedom of Information legislation to the National Security Archive at George Washington University in the US.

The report admits the US is vulnerable to electronic warfare. “Networks are growing faster than we can defend them,” the report notes. “The sophistication and capability of … nation states to degrade system and network operations are rapidly increasing.”

T he report says the US military’s first priority is that the “department [of defence] must be prepared to ‘fight the net’”. The internet is seen in much the same way as an enemy state by the Pentagon because of the way it can be used to propagandise, organise and mount electronic attacks on crucial US targets. Under the heading “offensive cyber operations”, two pages outlining possible operations are blacked out.

Next, the Pentagon focuses on electronic warfare, saying it must be elevated to the heart of US military war planning. It will “provide maximum control of the electromagnetic spectrum, denying, degrading, disrupting or destroying the full spectrum of communications equipment … it is increasingly important that our forces dominate the electromagnetic spectrum with attack capabilities”. Put simply, this means US forces having the power to knock out any or all forms of telecommunications on the planet.



After electronic warfare, the US war planners turn their attention to psychological operations: “Military forces must be better prepared to use psyops in support of military operations.” The State Department, which carries out US diplomatic functions, is known to be worried that the rise of such operations could undermine American diplomacy if uncovered by foreign states. Other examples of information war listed in the report include the creation of “Truth Squads” to provide public information when negative publicity, such as the Abu Ghraib torture scandal, hits US operations, and the establishment of “Humanitarian Road Shows”, which will talk up American support for democracy and freedom.

The Pentagon also wants to target a “broader set of select foreign media and audiences”, with $161m set aside to help place pro-US articles in overseas media.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 7:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/4655196.stm
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article11901.htm
http://szamko.gnn.tv/articles/2112/Media_Insurgency_Marketing_the_War_ on_Terror

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Rendon_Group http://www.rendon.com/ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rendon_Group

Its an infowar and they are losing...
This made me lol "Other examples of information war listed in the report include the creation of “Truth Squads”"

One of these new guys was asking me if i had proof that lots of money was being spent to cover up 911... i couldnt be arsed to reply its so well known.
If they had nothing to hide and had done nothing wrong they wouldnt need any of this nonsense, including coming here to battle in desperate fashion...sadly we all know the reverse is the case, their actions are a good indicator of their losing this 'battle'.
Of course these guys could just be suffering from a horrific dose of cognitive dissonance...who knows... Wink

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 11:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So have they been banned? I hope!!
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, 'they' haven't been banned

What I have suggested is a separate area for our critics, where they can be ignored or engaged with as people see fit, keeping the remainder of the forum for campaign supporters only.

As I have said to me it is important as a movement that we are seen to be willing to engage our critics, regardless of whether they are truly independent or not

I think given the Pentagon admits to creating propaganda to further support for the War on Terror it is entirely believeable that the state (both US and UK) would employ people to engage sites like this but it serves no ones purpose to call our critics shills because at an individual level this can't be proven

As an example witness how calling Rachel (a key campaigner for a July 7 inquiry) a shill by a few individuals has played out.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

scar wrote:
"First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they attack you, then you win! "

Mahatma Gandhi

We are in stage 3. Very Happy


Well yes and no

'They' (the manistream media, politicians and opinion formers) are still largely on stage 1 (ignoring 'us' or unaware of 'us') although of course there have been several lame attack pieces in Popular Mechanics etc

With the MSM still largely ignoring us the battle is largely being played out in cyber space where we are both laughed at with endless amusing little references to tin foil hats and lizards and attacked

we need to remember how Gandhi got 'them' to take him seriously in his day. A [url=http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=gandhi+salt+march&meta=
 ]peaceful salt march[/url]. Getting out in public and making ourselves seen. When we have enough numbers they can't ignore us
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ian neal wrote:


Well yes and no

we need to remember how Gandhi got 'them' to take him seriously in his day. A [url=http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=gandhi+salt+march&meta=
 ]peaceful salt march[/url]. Getting out in public and making ourselves seen. When we have enough numbers they can't ignore us


Ok, i was being overly positive. On the internet, this thread/site, we are perhaps at stage 3. In the real world you are correct, 1+2 mostly.
Totally agree we ALL need to be out there to get it to 4.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 23, 2006 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote



Although Gandhi would not approve, Mean Machine is ready to go up to 4, anytime!

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