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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 12:27 pm Post subject: Police Ordered to release 7/7 CCTV Footage |
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Quote: | Police ordered to release 7/7 footage
Police have been ordered to release footage of the July 7 bombers after a three-year freedom of information battle.
The video shows the terrorists chatting, putting on rucksacks and buying snacks on their way to carry out suicide bombings that killed 52 innocent people in London.
In chilling scenes, Hasib Hussain is also seen shopping for a battery and stopping at McDonald's as he struggles to make his device work after the other bombs have been detonated.
The footage was described in detail in the Home Office's Narrative report, which was published the year after the devastating 2005 attacks.
But very little of the material has so far been made available to the public.
The Information Commissioner overruled objections from Scotland Yard that disclosure could disrupt its investigations, and ordered that seven pieces of footage should be released.
The force has 35 days to either appeal or disclose the material.
Three of the bombers detonated their devices almost simultaneously at 8.50am, Lindsay under King's Cross, Mohammad Sidique Khan at Edgware Road, and Shehzad Tanweer at Aldgate.
Hussain set off his bomb on a bus in Tavistock Square at 9.47am.
The Commissioner ruled that the faces of anyone other than the bombers should be pixelated in the footage.
© Independent Television News Limited 2009. All rights reserved |
http://www.orange.co.uk/news/uk/5044.htm?linkfrom=news_uk_default&link =link_7&article=newsukheadlines
Quote: | Chatting, putting on rucksacks buying snacks and batteries and going Mcdonalds (i presume for a ham burger) |
Pretty damning evidence dont you agree Holmes
get out clause.
Quote: | The force has 35 days to either appeal or disclose the material |
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oops we put the films in the wrong archive _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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SHERITON HOTEL Moderate Poster
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 1:35 pm Post subject: |
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I thought the official story was that ALL the London underground CCTV mal-functioned the morning of 7/7/05 |
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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This isn't relating to the ones already released? _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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fish5133 Site Admin
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 5:25 pm Post subject: |
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So if they have footage of Hussain fiddling with his battery and bomb was that on the bus? As i thought the bus cctv was not working. _________________ JO911B.
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Posted: Fri Apr 03, 2009 11:27 pm Post subject: |
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fish5133 wrote: | So if they have footage of Hussain fiddling with his battery and bomb was that on the bus? As i thought the bus cctv was not working. |
Well they say he was struggling to activate whilst eating at McDonalds and shopping for batteries at Boots. That's the 'as' word suggests
This is a complete nonsense. If anything gets released expect it to be laughable
I'd suggest confidence. We know they can't come up with anything irrefutable. Because they're complete lying sobs and complicit in mass murder _________________ http://www.exopolitics-leeds.co.uk/introduction |
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Posted: Tue Apr 07, 2009 10:06 pm Post subject: |
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paul wright wrote: | fish5133 wrote: | So if they have footage of Hussain fiddling with his battery and bomb was that on the bus? As i thought the bus cctv was not working. |
Well they say he was struggling to activate whilst eating at McDonalds and shopping for batteries at Boots. That's the 'as' word suggests
This is a complete nonsense. If anything gets released expect it to be laughable
I'd suggest confidence. We know they can't come up with anything irrefutable. Because they're complete lying sobs and complicit in mass murder |
There is no footage of him on the bus. (They might try another cut and paste job) _________________ http://www.the4thbomb.com/
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Posted: Wed Apr 08, 2009 2:38 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2007080001158
I write in connection with your request for information which was received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 03/08/2007. I note you seek access to the following information:
* I request the CCTV recordings from the no. 30 bus on which a bomb exploded on 7th July 2005 for the period of time between 0925 and 0946.
Following receipt of your request searches were conducted within the MPS to locate information relevant to your request.
DECISION
I have today decided that access cannot be provided to the information you have requested as it is not held by the MPS.
As has previously been widely reported, the CCTV equipment on the bus you refer was not operating. Therefore there are no CCTV recordings to meet your request.
I add these points simply by way of additional information given the importance of the material you request.
If such material existed, it would undoubtably have been highly significant to the investigation into the events of that morning. Its existence would inevitably have been made public, especially to the close relatives of those who were killed, and the surviving victims of that attack. As you must appreciate, had there been CCTV footage of that journey, potentially it would have shown the last horrific moments of many people. The publication of that sort of image is out of the question. Had it existed, its content would have been exempted from release under numerous sections of the Freedom of Information Act. However, as I have said, the CCTV equipment on that bus was not operating. |
Quote: | Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2007090000559
I write in connection with your request for information which was received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 03/09/2007. I note you seek access to the following information:
In the response to Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2007080001158 it was stated that the CCTV equipment on the was not operating on the No. 30 bus on which an explosion occurred in Tavistock Square on the 7th of July 2005. I request information held by the Metropolitan Police Service on the reasons for this non-operation.
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Following receipt of your request searches were conducted within the MPS to locate information relevant to your request.
You appear to be asking the MPS to provide you an explanation as to why the property of another organisation was not operating at a given time.
The Freedom of Information Act is a means by which information can be supplied, if held.
The equipment concerned was examined as it was hoped that it would reveal compelling evidence in respect of that attack. The fact that the machinery wasn't working was as much a disappointment to the investigators as it is unhelpful towards establishing the events of that morning. Why it was defective is not something that the MPS hold the answer to, it simply wasn't working at the time of that attack.
I add this by way of additional explanation. Had it been working, it would undoubtably have contained significant material concerning the attacks that would have been highly relevant to the Criminal and Coroners Courts processes. Had there been images, they would have been extremely distressing the the victims and their surviving families. Even had images existed, they certainly would not have been made public under the Freedom of Information Act for numerous FOIA exemption reasons.
I have sought to explain this as far as I can, and regret that I am unable to provide any further clarification.. |
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:11 am Post subject: |
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fish5133 wrote: | So if they have footage of Hussain fiddling with his battery and bomb was that on the bus? As i thought the bus cctv was not working. |
nice one, Cyril! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:13 am Post subject: |
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paul wright wrote: | fish5133 wrote: | So if they have footage of Hussain fiddling with his battery and bomb was that on the bus? As i thought the bus cctv was not working. |
Well they say he was struggling to activate whilst eating at McDonalds and shopping for batteries at Boots. That's the 'as' word suggests
This is a complete nonsense. If anything gets released expect it to be laughable
I'd suggest confidence. We know they can't come up with anything irrefutable. Because they're complete lying sobs and complicit in mass murder |
You just could be right, there, cobber! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:25 am Post subject: |
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numeral wrote: | Quote: | Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2007080001158
I write in connection with your request for information which was received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 03/08/2007. I note you seek access to the following information:
* I request the CCTV recordings from the no. 30 bus on which a bomb exploded on 7th July 2005 for the period of time between 0925 and 0946.
Following receipt of your request searches were conducted within the MPS to locate information relevant to your request.
DECISION
I have today decided that access cannot be provided to the information you have requested as it is not held by the MPS.
As has previously been widely reported, the CCTV equipment on the bus you refer was not operating. Therefore there are no CCTV recordings to meet your request.
I add these points simply by way of additional information given the importance of the material you request.
If such material existed, it would undoubtably have been highly significant to the investigation into the events of that morning. Its existence would inevitably have been made public, especially to the close relatives of those who were killed, and the surviving victims of that attack. As you must appreciate, had there been CCTV footage of that journey, potentially it would have shown the last horrific moments of many people. The publication of that sort of image is out of the question. Had it existed, its content would have been exempted from release under numerous sections of the Freedom of Information Act. However, as I have said, the CCTV equipment on that bus was not operating. |
Quote: | Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2007090000559
I write in connection with your request for information which was received by the Metropolitan Police Service (MPS) on 03/09/2007. I note you seek access to the following information:
In the response to Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2007080001158 it was stated that the CCTV equipment on the was not operating on the No. 30 bus on which an explosion occurred in Tavistock Square on the 7th of July 2005. I request information held by the Metropolitan Police Service on the reasons for this non-operation.
*
Following receipt of your request searches were conducted within the MPS to locate information relevant to your request.
You appear to be asking the MPS to provide you an explanation as to why the property of another organisation was not operating at a given time.
The Freedom of Information Act is a means by which information can be supplied, if held.
The equipment concerned was examined as it was hoped that it would reveal compelling evidence in respect of that attack. The fact that the machinery wasn't working was as much a disappointment to the investigators as it is unhelpful towards establishing the events of that morning. Why it was defective is not something that the MPS hold the answer to, it simply wasn't working at the time of that attack.
I add this by way of additional explanation. Had it been working, it would undoubtably have contained significant material concerning the attacks that would have been highly relevant to the Criminal and Coroners Courts processes. Had there been images, they would have been extremely distressing the the victims and their surviving families. Even had images existed, they certainly would not have been made public under the Freedom of Information Act for numerous FOIA exemption reasons.
I have sought to explain this as far as I can, and regret that I am unable to provide any further clarification.. |
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What part of 'Not working' don't you understand? Would you also quiery the French CCTV 'not working' on the Diana murder (so it did work intermittently, managing to catch a speeding motorist entering the tunnel moments before Daina's car entered tunnel, so what? Would anyone suggest the Frog 'Powers That Be' were also complicit? Perish the thought! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2009 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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You're right Frogmen in tunnels would look mighty suspicious! _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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