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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Was “Harley Man” expert at ground zero a paid actor? Reply with quote

Mystery expert at ground zero “Harley Man”

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I don't know how many people remember this guy at ground zero on september 11th. It was right after the towers had come down and fox was interviewing witnesses. He is the guy that described that as he was watching he saw the plane "Karine" in to the building "coming through the other side". "Then, I watched as both the towers came down due to structural failure, because the fire was just too intense."

If any of you are familiar with the John Stewart show "The daily show" on that show named Rob Riggle.

I believe that is who this man is. A paid actor who in 2001 was unknown.


Riggle was a major in the United States Marine Corps Reserve where he served in Liberia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan. He is currently a public affairs officer with the New York City Public Affairs unit and is a recipient of the Combat Action Ribbon. He has referred to his military experiences on The Daily Show, often when acting as the show's "Military Analyst", sometimes facetiously claiming he could kill any other member of the show. He is the only Daily Show cast member to have been in the U.S. military

Here is the work-up of this guy. I spent a while on this taking several images from the Daily Show clips and matching them next to the original footage on 9/11.

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL268/1924676/21891762/361485259.jpg
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yea looks good Wink
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There must be some software that does voice comparison.... thereafter you just need to get some sound clips and compare the voice record to prove or disprove your theory.

It would be very mainstream-media-newsworthy if you could prove the link. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

True would comparing the waves on any wave editor be enough?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The technology to identify a person from voice is called "Speaker Recognition" (Also called Speaker Verification).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_recognition

Not to be confused with "Voice Recognition" which is attempting to extract meaning from the sound.

At the wikipedia link there is a link to a free program from UCL

http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/resource/sfs/wasp.htm

Which enable you to view voice prints. There is a link to " Enquiries" and "contact information" where presumably you can get access to an expert who could help verify a match.

Another forsenics like match could be made with facial recognition software. You'd probably need a full face image to do that. The hat won't matter since the measurements are made between eyes, mouth, chin, nose and cheeks, I believe.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Mystery expert at ground zero “Harley Man” Reply with quote

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Mystery expert at ground zero “Harley Man”

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I don't know how many people remember this guy at ground zero on september 11th. It was right after the towers had come down and fox was interviewing witnesses. He is the guy that described that as he was watching he saw the plane "Karine" in to the building "coming through the other side". "Then, I watched as both the towers came down due to structural failure, because the fire was just too intense."

If any of you are familiar with the John Stewart show "The daily show" on that show named Rob Riggle.

I believe that is who this man is. A paid actor who in 2001 was unknown.


Riggle was a major in the United States Marine Corps Reserve where he served in Liberia, Kosovo, and Afghanistan. He is currently a public affairs officer with the New York City Public Affairs unit and is a recipient of the Combat Action Ribbon. He has referred to his military experiences on The Daily Show, often when acting as the show's "Military Analyst", sometimes facetiously claiming he could kill any other member of the show. He is the only Daily Show cast member to have been in the U.S. military

Here is the work-up of this guy. I spent a while on this taking several images from the Daily Show clips and matching them next to the original footage on 9/11.

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL268/1924676/21891762/361485259.jpg


Did you come to this conclusion yourself keithm? If so excellent work. Looks a fit to me. I'll take your word the voice sounds right. This is one for American 9/11 Truthers to follow up.

I've often wondered who this guy is.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i can't take credit for this,but i did find it interesting.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What and where are the souces for the various pictures?
Surely anyone doing this seriously would provide their source material or it's just a pie in the sky conjecture.
I mean where exactly are the four pictures taken from?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.robriggle.com/my-photogallery.html

his cap even looks the same.

http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL268/1924676/21891762/361497663.jpg


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We could always send him an email asking about his military career.

In the Internet Movie Database, he was involved in a program called "The Upright Citizens Brigade" up to 2000.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1443527/

Then if he replies you could ask him to send a sound clip saying

"...come out of nowhere and just ream right into the side of the twin tower, exploding through the other side...and then I witnessed both towers collapse, one first then the second, mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense"

(Personally, I think Rob Riggles appears somewhat taller than "Harley Guy", so I wouldn't get your hopes up on this one).
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 1:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TonyGosling wrote:
What and where are the souces for the various pictures?
Surely anyone doing this seriously would provide their source material or it's just a pie in the sky conjecture.
I mean where exactly are the four pictures taken from?


this is the first post ive made for over a year,

ive been put off by goslings continual critasizing of every post made.

once again he's at it,i just want the truth about 9/11.

well gosling,ive made my last post,you can stick this site up your ass for all i care.
you are a pathetic little child who wants to take the applause for every little scoop.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

keithm - that's a pity 'cos your post is excellent.

The 'guy in the baseball cap' has always been a key enigma in spreading the OCT as fast and far a possible, I always felt he came from the same stable (trough?) as Jerome Hauer - http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2007/02/meet-jerome-hauer-911-suspec t-awaiting.html
and have been searching asiduously for the connection ever since.

Hauer in response to Dan Rather wrote:
Jerome Hauer: No, I, uh, my sense is just the velocity of the plane and the fact that you have a plane filled with fuel hitting that building, uh, that burned, uh, the velocity of that plane, uh, certainly, uh, uh, had an impact on the structure itself, and then the fact that it burned and you had that intense heat, uh, probably weakened the structure as well, uh, and I think it, uh, was, uh, simply the, uh, the planes hitting the buildings, and, and causing the collapse.


Don't mind Tony - he has done more than most to get solid fact out and, IMO, personalities don't matter - truth does.

You may have just made many researcher's day, no, YEAR, with this info. If his name fits his modus, he has a LOT of 'splaining to do!

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keithm, please don't ever stop posting - you've really found a gem here. From Riggle's military bio:-

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...assigned to be the Deputy Director Public Affairs, New York City.While assigned to the New York office, Capt. Riggle was deployed again to Albania (Joint Task Force Shining Hope). From there he was attached briefly to the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit Special Operations Capable (24th MEU SOC) and went to Kosovo as part of Operation Joint Guardian.

Capt. Riggle left active duty in the summer of 2000 and immediately joined the Marine Corps Reserves. In the fall of 2001 Capt. Riggle was in New York City. His reserve unit, MTU-17, stationed in Manhattan, were among the first military responders to the attacks on the World Trade Centers. Capt. Riggle was activated from Sept. 12th through the 30th, 2001, where he worked at ground zero moving rubble by hand in the bucket brigades.

http://www.robriggle.com/my-military.html

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking more and more like a winner Cool
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Self published by Riggle

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Rob tends to let AC/DC do a lot of his speaking for him… i.e., “F*** this! …I am hot, and when I’m not, I’m cold as ice... Get outta my way, just step aside…or pay the price… what I want I take, what I don’t I break….”


http://www.robriggle.com/mystory.html - near page bottom. Ya think he might be sooperman - maybe busted the WTC with his bare hands? I wonder 'how hot' he gets? Enough to melt steel, be sure... ;-)

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 16, 2009 9:25 pm    Post subject: don't see it Reply with quote

I'm sorry, but am I the only person who doesn't see the likeness? The guy in the baseball cap looks older than Riggle, a lot older. I don't think riggle's acting is that good.

Sure, as others have pointed out, baseball cap is a plant. He's more expert than the city officials, who were clueless about the Towers coming down, and more expert than many engineers who were also clueless straight after the collapses. But riggle, i don't see it
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 17, 2009 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Perhaps the best way to clear this up would be for someone say from wearechange.org to go ask Riggle whether he was interviewed by Fox on 9/11?

Nothing definite can be ascertained from those photos alone!

Can anyone provide the clip that contains Mr Baseball Cap?

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Can anyone provide the clip that contains Mr Baseball Cap?


DIY is best ;-)


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, if anyone can do voice-prints, here a few videos with varying amounts of Riggle's voice (and a lot more about him!!!):

Pictures
http://tv.yahoo.com/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart/show/29840/photos/ 1

Rob Riggle voice at 08.40 (almost end) of 'The Bush Years'
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=215174&title=The -Bush-Years:-The-Iraq-War

And much more 'voice':
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=213359&title=RIP ---Riggle-in-Perspective

more voice:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=212815&title=Oba ma/Clinton-Sarcasm

and more:
http://www.thedailyshow.com/video/index.jhtml?videoId=189151&title=Bus -Tour-of-the-Other-America

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The voice has the same tonal quality, the bushy eyebrows, big earlobes. same face shape.

I wonder if there is a higher definition version of the same TV news clip anywhere.

Very good match on the basis of poor original images. Nothing to suggest it isn't the same person.

I'd put money on it being the same guy....

....can't prove it though.
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 2:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why not email this guy and ask , he looks like an attention seeker anyway
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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why not email this guy and ask , he looks like an attention seeker anyway


To me he looks like a totally reprehensible 'soldier' for the NWO.
We have enough material for a voice-print comparison, if any of us has the technology and expertise required.

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PostPosted: Thu May 07, 2009 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, he was acting, but not a paid actor, and not this one.

They look similar, but the nose is totally different.

Ultimately, if I was planning to stage the single biggest false flag attack history has ever seen, I wouldn't hire an actor from some agency to run my script in the public eye. Bit risky bringing an outsider in for no good reason.

I'd just send out a black ops agent with some lines. A lot safer. Yeah he'd be an awful actor but... hold on... he was wasn't he?

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are a lot of serious, diligent researchers on this Forum. Why have none of them taken up the 'voice-print' approach?
I don't have the time to chase this up, but I'm sure some of you out there have.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 10:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are a lot of serious, diligent researchers on this Forum. Why have none of them taken up the 'voice-print' approach?


Because it's not as easy as it may seem? Most people think because you have a computer and a high-end audio editor, any fragment of voice would do - it just ain't so (I've tried!). Even after filtering out background and focusing just on the timbre, there are always mismatches. Try it using your own voice uttering the same sounds over and over again through various microphones.

Nah, this is a job for the FBI ;-)

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"]if I was planning to stage the single biggest false flag attack history has ever seen, I wouldn't hire an actor from some agency to run my script in the public eye. Bit risky bringing an outsider in for no good reason.


But he wasn't an outsider - he's more of a 'Peter Power' type and by Riggle's own admission a real gung-ho, can-do military character already working for NY City Hall. Check his bio:-

http://www.robriggle.com/mystory.html

As for the nose, the differing angles preclude certainty.

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are a lot of serious, diligent researchers on this Forum. Why have none of them taken up the 'voice-print' approach?


Because it's not as easy as it may seem? Most people think because you have a computer and a high-end audio editor, any fragment of voice would do - it just ain't so (I've tried!). Even after filtering out background and focusing just on the timbre, there are always mismatches. Try it using your own voice uttering the same sounds over and over again through various microphones.

Nah, this is a job for the FBI Wink

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"]if I was planning to stage the single biggest false flag attack history has ever seen, I wouldn't hire an actor from some agency to run my script in the public eye. Bit risky bringing an outsider in for no good reason.


But he wasn't an outsider - he's more of a 'Peter Power' type and by Riggle's own admission a real gung-ho, can-do military character already working for NY City Hall. Check his bio:-

http://www.robriggle.com/mystory.html

As for the nose, the differing angles preclude certainty.


Whatever you do, don't bring in an 'outsider'!

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PostPosted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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There are a lot of serious, diligent researchers on this Forum. Why have none of them taken up the 'voice-print' approach?


I don't have a PC to run WASP (details below) - if someone does then they can do the sampling and then pass the info to UCL to help with the speaker recognition. This is not a trivial task but technically possible.

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The technology to identify a person from voice is called "Speaker Recognition" (Also called Speaker Verification).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Speaker_recognition

Not to be confused with "Voice Recognition" which is attempting to extract meaning from the sound.

At the wikipedia link there is a link to a free program from UCL

http://www.phon.ucl.ac.uk/resource/sfs/wasp.htm

Which enable you to view voice prints. There is a link to " Enquiries" and "contact information" where presumably you can get access to an expert who could help verify a match.
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http://911-harley-shirt-guy.blogspot.com/2009/05/mark-adrian-humphrey- actor-is-harley.html

I have quoted the site as below but it doesn't easily copy and paste. Go to the link above and at the end of the quote to see images and video.

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Friday, May 15, 2009
Mark Adrian Humphrey, actor, is the Harley Shirt Guy

Since soon after September 11, 2001, many people began wondering about the identity and suspected the credibility of the seemingly all-knowing witness in the black Harley shirt who, it is universally acknowledged, is a planted shill mouthing a script.


"...come out of nowhere and just ream right into the side of the twin tower, exploding through the other side...and then I witnessed both towers collapse, one first then the second, mostly due to structural failure because the fire was just too intense."

video at above link

There is presently a very active operation intent on misdirecting and attempting to obscure the identification of the Harley Guy.

B-list actor Mark Adrian Humphrey was serendipitously ID'ed on December 28, 2008 during an investigation into the background of the questionable person of Ace Baker and his affiliates by myself and more particularly due to the heroic and laudable efforts of 'Fred' aka BSregistration of 911 Octopus fame. Within days shills were suddenly activated, countering this important revelation by proposing instead both newsman Bob Woodruff and later comedian Rob Riggle. Which, if it wasn't so pathetic, so criminal, might be laughable.

The comparison images have been endlessly deleted at the source, the youtube videos censored, whole threads disappeared at http://911movement.org by the Invisions management and ongoing slander campaigns initiated. The perps are definitely becoming desperate and running scared. It's certain that this happenstance recognition was never anticipated.

The fake Harley Guy witness is, without any doubt whatsoever, actor Mark Humphrey.


Mark Humphrey, actor, has updated his original demo reel, removing the portion from which the first comparison stills were taken. And I created the new image comparison using stills excerpted from an episode of a show he appeared in called She Spies which is at the top of this post.


More here
http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewPicture& friendID=8412580&albumId=2783018

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PostPosted: Wed May 20, 2009 8:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way to positively id the guy is via speaker recognition or facial recognition.

Strangely most of the the links at

http://www.speaker-recognition.org/

...are dead (from about 2007). The base articles about speaker recognition date to 1999 and DoD researchers. Strange but true...

The latest version of iLife - iLife 09 - on the Apple Mac has a facial recognition facility which seems pretty accurate. Anybody want to try out Harley Guy against the suspects?
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Go for it, scienceplease.

item7 - this smacks of disinfo to me - the nose is even more dubious at that 'octopus-related' link. Also, Harley Man's ears are higher relative to jaw bone.

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There is presently a very active operation intent on misdirecting and attempting to obscure the identification of the Harley Guy.


Yeah, right!

Hmm, seems to be my week for negativity - yet Riggle fits the bill far better than this character. Bear in mind Riggle was in:-

The right job at
the right time with
the 'right' qualifications and
the 'right' connections.
by his own admission on his my story page.

I haven't found the direct link between Riggle and Hauer as yet. Working on it. Probably Giuliani, somewhere along the line.

As outsider quipped above - why call in an outsider (civilian in this case) when you have a marine grunt right to hand to take orders?

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Let me be quite clear here: Everyone is innocent until proven guilty contrary to the beliefs of people like Jack Straw and Dick Cheney.

However, Mr Riggle needs to be interviewed, especially in view of the quote below - even if it is completely out of context!

quote from under one of his pictures at:-
http://www.robriggle.com/my-photogallery.html
"The work of a fake journalist can be tough, but what can I say? I’m dedicated."

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