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 Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 7:07 pm Post subject: Rachel North rubbishes 7/7 'conspiracy theories' |
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No actual mention of Verint Systems there or the absence of CCTV, nor a serious consideration of Scotland Yard's 8 minute warning to the Israeli embassy.
Not sure if this has been penned by Rachel herself...? But it looks rather similar to this, this, and this
Not quite a declaration of war, yet.
7/7 Conspiracy Theories: the TRUTH at last
http://rachelnorthlondon.blogspot.com/2009/05/77-conspiracy-theories-t ruth-at-last.html
UPDATE NOTE: the collection of conspiracy theories below is SATIRE. It has been posted because after three years of seeing utter rubbish disseminated on the internet through blogs, forums, home-made 'truth documentaries' and 'truth research', which are nothing more than paranoid speculation, I believe it is time to show this stuff up for what it really is. The sane, clear-eyed calls for a 7/7 inquiry are nothing to do with conspiracy theories that are posted and repeated endlessly on the internet, and passed around by people who have apparently little grasp of Occam's razor or logic or evidence-based research.
I have noticed that it is a frequent conspiracy theorist tactic to focus obsessively on any small anomaly - normal in archived coverage of rolling, multi-sourced news coverage of a major event under massive investigation, and to relentlessly ask endless questions, which seek to raise doubt on the 'official account'. Very rarely will the practised conspiracy theorist attempt to come up with a counter-narrative of their own; instead, the onus is always on 'The Powers that be' to disprove negatives, and respond to every rumour and question, no matter how evidence-free its orgin. This account represents a round-up of the main 7/7 consipracy theories and attempts to refute them, using logic, evidence and satire. If you are likely to be offended by the lies that are circulated about the 7th July murders - and many are - please don't read on. To those who have expressed interest in the 7/7 conspiracy theories without considering carefully their provenance, origin, agenda and basis in fact, I hope this makes you think twice before passing them on.
You may also want to look at this: 10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists.
| Quote: | SATIRE ALERT: This is a guest post from
Connor Spiracy and Thea Wrist
''After three years of 7/7 research on the internet, I can reveal the TRUTH, and I would like to share it with you all now. Everything in the following is taken from a real internet 7/7 research source available only on the internet. Placed together, I'm sure you will see what a compelling case it all makes - much more convincing than the official version. Hold tight - this will change your world...
A few years ago, wicked people agreed upon an evil scheme. In order to bolster their nefarious plans for
(a) introducing ID cards (b) endless war for oil (c) endless war against Islam
a dreadful 'false flag' plot was hatched by
(a) the UK government (b) a shadowy Bilderberg hyper-capitalist neocon cabal (c) the CIA (d)M15/6 (e) Israel (f) Jews, somewhere, (g) possibly an elite part-reptilian super-race.
They decided to attack London on 7th July and blame it on Islamist terrorist suicide bombers. (There are no such things as Islamist terrorist suicide bombers, especially not UK ones, who have wives and children and look normal.) The terrible plot went like this:
M15 placed bombs under the trains, which had been timed to explode. They worked with Israel to do this, Mossad probably, and maybe the CIA as well. The Israeli PM, who was staying near Russell Square, knew in advance and was warned, even though what actually happened was that after the Russell Square bomb went off, he was warned to stay in his room with his security detail, so missing the fourth bomb in Tavistock Square round the corner less than an hour later. A huge world-leading Israeli-owned security and surveillance company won the contract to put in enhanced security systems on the London Underground in September 2004, ten months before the bombings, so that proves everything. Oh, and a passenger who was in the same carriage as the bomb at Edgware, who remained with a dying woman then staggered out in shock said he 'couldn't remember' seeing where a bomb or a bag was. Which also proves it. Kind of.
But if you want a final piece of proof, one survivor also mentioned to a journalist outside the station shortly after fleeing the train, that they had seen tiles on the floor of the carriage fly up. This was because of the bomb which had been placed in a rucksack on the floor of the carriage in front. Erm, but it could also indicate a bomb under the carriage, although photographs of the train interior indicate the bomb was inside. As does eye-witness evidence from survivors who were in the carriage with the bomber. Including a man who stood opposite him and survived with terrrible injuries.
The bombers were innocent; they were however standing in the carriages and killed by the bombs in their rucksacks that they were carrying. But that wasn't their fault, because they were innocent 'patsies' who thought they were smuggling drugs or taking part in a mysterious terror training exercise. That was why they'd bought return tickets, even though a cheap day return is cheaper than a single. They'd even made videos describing why they considered themselves soldiers in a war against the UK. And been to terror training camps abroad and everything. They took their acting role very seriously indeed. But they were completely innocent, remember.
The person co-ordinating the mysterious terror exercise was Peter Power, an ex-Scotland Yard officer, who like many other former cops had set up his own company. His company specialises in training management to be crisis-prepared. So on July 7th, in a shocking and unimaginable coincidence, he was sitting in an office teaching some managers, in a publishing company that employed about a thousand people, how to plan for disasters, like he did every day.
At 9am, the start of the working day, he was asking the managers to consider what would happen if major tube stations were attacked at rush hour. I know. Amazing and frankly not believable - even though there had been a rush hour Al Qaeda attack on Madrid commuters, and a London tube attack was widely considered to be a likely terror target. As part of his training material, he used recordings of a Panorama programme simulating a terror attack on London. He'd been on the programme - God knows why the BBC would ask a respected security and risk expert onto a programme about terrorism and the risk to security, but there you go.
When the real attacks happened in London, where he was working that day along with hundreds of thousands of other people, he was shocked - but used the opportunity to mention the prescience of his security firm. A most untypical reaction of a self-employed risk consultant with an opportunity to talk about his company on national news, I'm sure you'll agree.
The poor not-bombers were killed, along with passengers on the tube trains. But one bomber remained alive. When he realised he was a dupe, he fled to Canary Wharf, where he knew there were lots of journalists in media organisations who would help him. That's what anyone would do in such a situation - hurry across the city to Canary Wharf.
When the young non-bomber arrived at Canary Wharf, he was promptlyshot in broad daylight by black-clad gunmen, in the full view of lots of towering office blocks full of journalists and business people. A much smarter idea than taking him into a van and bumping him off, eh?
His remains were then chopped up, taken back to the exploded bus and carefully scattered about to fool everyone.
The bus wasn't really exploded at all, however. It was full of actors and stuntmen, and used clever pyrotechnics to look like it was exploded. It was all part of Peter Power's mysterious terror drill.
But Peter Power didn't know the real reason why he had been asked to run a complicated terror drill complete with fake exploding bus for the benefit of a few managers in a publishing company who never left their office and were doing a planning exercise on powerpoint with videos in a different part of London.
The wicked plotters behind it all were using Power as a dupe, to add weight to their plot to blow up three trains and blame it all on Muslims. They were so evil that they actually wanted to be found out and send a coded message of their mocking disdain by doing the high-risk strategy of the shooting and faked bus explosion as well; to add insult to this they then cynically arranged for a red London bus with a lift-off roof full of dancers to appear at the Olympic handover to London ceremony.
Thousands of passers-by, police, emergency services workers have all kept quiet about all this, aided by a complicit media. M15 and their masters ruthlessly suppress the truth by allowing bloggers and internet truth campaigners to write about this and distribute DVDs and hold meetings about it regularly.
I realise when I write all this down it looks very silly, and that there is not a single shred of credible evidence to support any of it - which is why it is always better not to explain this is what happened, and instead just ask lots of questions and look at isolated details out of context whilst ignoring anything that contradicts the theory. But now you know that the official account is all lies and the ultimate proof is of course, that 9/11 Was An Inside Job.''
Sometimes all you can do is laugh. Because otherwise, you'd cry. Enough of this insulting, illogical, lazy, deceitful paranoid conspiracy nonsense flying round the internet, let's have an inquiry - to put this trust-corroding, intelligence-damaging nonsense to bed as much as to get at the truth. |
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| It could all be code for " HELP! I've been got at by the PTB" it's so full of cliche and omission. |
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| Quote: | | You may also want to look at this: 10 characteristics of conspiracy theorists. |
I'm sure it has already been done but it would be good to turn the tables somewhat...
10 characteristics of a coincidence theorist...or 10 characteristics of someone living in la-la land...chuck in things like...
"They believe everything that Governments/Intelligence agencies/mainstream media tells them because everybody in such positions are really nice people with a genuine concern for the common man..."
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"They believe that staggeringly unlikely coincidences are not worthy of a mention, such as the exact same scenario being played out as a 'drill' on the exact same day of terrorist attacks occurring. Anything at all suspicious should just be put down to coincidence with no further questions asked."
You know, stuff like that. |
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| GodSaveTheTeam wrote: |
10 characteristics of a coincidence theorist...or 10 characteristics of someone living in la-la land...chuck in things like...
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They don't believe anything on the internet except for the debunking websites that re-enforce their world view with distorted logic.
Their memory span is only marginally longer than a goldfish and while they like reading detective stories, they have no way of solving real life mysteries. |
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| Posted: Sun May 10, 2009 10:00 pm Post subject: Rachael's Rant |
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Rachel blogged,
| Quote: | | The bus wasn't really exploded at all, however. It was full of actors and stuntmen, and used clever pyrotechnics to look like it was exploded. It was all part of Peter Power's mysterious terror drill. |
Rachel's smug smart-ar*e comment conveniently stops short of explaining how a bomb, so powerful that it blows the roof clean off, destroys the back of the bus and blows out the front destination board; yet at least 13 people are caught on camera in the front half of what remains of the upper deck, without apparent injury, damage to clothing or the two backpacks being carried by the young men at the front of the bus!
In the infamous shot of the bus with the driver George Psaradakis seemingly walking calmly around the front of bus #17758, the passengers at the front of the upper deck appear remarkably unscathed despite the degree of mechanical carnage around them.
Close examination of the photograph also raises the question as to whether George Psaradakis was wearing something under his sleeveless fleece? Indeed, why he is wearing a fleece waistcoat at all in July?
Despite Rachael's rabid defence of the official conspiracy theory, discerning thinkers will not be detered from asking the difficult questions. The truth will ultimately prevail.
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| Posted: Tue May 12, 2009 7:50 am Post subject: |
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But she's goading us here and will be trying to encourage us to have all sorts of pops at her.
Why would she want to do that?
Must retrain myself. |
Retrain or restrain? Perhaps a bit of both is needed, Tony. 
We got her number long ago. I'm not going to waste time on her.
Errornovich is more interesting because his case is transparently contradictory and currently crumbling. |
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She's a demented harridan who thinks her 'suffering' gives her the right to hysterically shout down and abuse anyone who disagrees with her.
I wasn't at the 9/11 Truth meeting in London that she invaded and took over.
Just as well. There are some people who need a dose of their own medicine. |
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Rachel has her own need and experience to support the status quo, and enough trauma to reinforce that belief system
Best to avoid taking a pop at her, and adopt tactics that circumvent her influence
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| Quote: | | But she does have to make sure the 'aliens done it' types don't get anywhere near the survivors & families' campaign for an enquiry doesn't she. |
Why is it thought that 'survivors & families' need be shielded from the opinions of others. Give them the intelligence to form their own views on events based on knowledge gained from available sources. (It may be comforting for the relatives of the victims of hospital malpractice to think they died of natural causes, would any changes be made if they did?) |
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| TonyGosling wrote: | I also reccomend she has a good look at this ol' Fox News report
9/11, The Israeli Connection - AmDocs Spy Scandal - 4 Part Series (Fox News 2001)
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Very good to see this seminal series surfacing again on various sites, though I doubt a petition to FauxNoos to re-run it would get anywhere - rather like The Power of Nightmares disappearing down the memory hole.
Has anyone here had the experience of a new browser window or tab popping up when trying to access these youtube clips? Here's what repeatedly happens if I am forced to use Windows (like here because this site rejects my login if I'm using Ubuntu) despite firewall, despite Javascript turned off, despite TOR, despite everything really:-
http://www.thejidf.org/2008/02/problematic-youtube-channels-and-videos .html
Take a look to see where youtube is heading thanks to ADL thought police - they're everywhere...
It is becoming very clear that these characters are busy on every front dismantling all the good that mankind has worked for/on for centuries.
US Constitution & Bill of Rights, now 'Israeli Occupied Territory' according to some ex-congresspersons
Human Rights Act - toothless, dismantled
UN - property of Israel
UK Parliament - in complete disarray, bought and paid for
French Republic - emasculated by Sarkozy, a Zionist extraordinaire
Rest of the World - criminalised when standing up to the amorality of the Zionist Agenda.
But ISTM we are in an era of two mutually incompatible reactionary elements locked in a stranglehold, as the Nazis are certainly still alive if not well. Their 'intermediary' is not exactly a force for good either, viz: Global Mafia.
Back on topic, what happened to Rachel North's recent CiF column?
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| Posted: Sat May 16, 2009 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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In Answer to..
| Quote: | | Why is it thought that 'survivors & families' need be shielded from the opinions of others. Give them the intelligence to form their own views on events based on knowledge gained from available sources. |
Tony Gosling wrote..
| Quote: | | Because they won't get an enquiry if they start going on about the nuts stuff at a senior judicial level. |
Is this not arrogance of the highest order. If people believe an omnipident presence, that the world will end a week on wednesday or that all evil is the work of the devil, should they be silenced lest we become uncomfortable with our own beliefs. Expressing a view is not indoctrination.
While not denying Rachel North the right to express her own views to her own ends, we discern, evaluate and counter-argue to formulate our own unique interpretation on given information, to deny others the same right is indefensible regardless of an enquiry. |
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