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I just thought I'd repeat this set of factoids...
http://www.amazon.com/Hunting-1918-Flu-Scientists-Search/dp/0802087485
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| Quote: | "In 1918, medical science was at a loss to explain the Spanish flu
epidemic, which swept the world in three great waves and killed an
estimated 20 to 40 million people in just one year, more than the number
that died during the four years of World War I. Today, while the Spanish
flu has faded in the public's memory, most virologists are convinced that
sooner or later a similarly deadly flu virus will return with a vengeance.
Responding to this sustained interest in the Spanish flu, Kirsty Duncan in
Hunting the 1918 Flu presents a detailed account of her experiences as she
organized a multi-national, multi-discipline scientific expedition to
exhume the bodies of a group of Norwegian miners, buried in Svalbard, all
of whom died from the Spanish flu virus. Duncan weaves a twofold
narrative: first, the story of a large-scale medical project with the
objective of uncovering genetic material from the Spanish flu and second,
a first-hand account of the turbulent politics that emerged as the group
moved towards a goal where the egos were as strong as the stakes were
high. Duncan, herself not an epidemiologist but a physical geographer, is
very frank about her bruising emotional, financial, and professional
experience on the 'dark side of science.' Readers witness how the research
team engages in 'entropic' behaviour, despite its presumed dedication to
science and the search for the virus, as the compelling story unfolds
through the beginning progress and harrowing conclusion of her project
(1992-2001).
In her account of pursuing the deadly killer, Kirsty Duncan raises
questions not only regarding public health, epidemiology, ethics of
science, and the rights of subjects but also about age, gender, and
privilege in science. While her search for the virus has shown promising
preliminary results, it has also shown the dangers of science itself being
subsumed in the rush for personal acclaim."
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http://www.nature.com/hdy/journal/v98/n1/full/6800911a.html
This article says:
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| Quote: | "Recently, a team of US scientists resurrected a virus that has since been
labelled 'perhaps the most effective bioweapons agent now known' (von
Bubnoff, 2005). In 1918, a highly virulent strain of influenza virus
killed up to 50 million people worldwide. The virus – later dubbed the
Spanish Flu – killed more people than any other disease of similar
duration in the history of humankind. Until last year, this virus was
extinct, preserved only as small DNA fragments in victims buried in
Alaskan permafrost, or in tissue specimen of the United States Armed
Forces Pathology Institute. Now the full sequence of the Spanish Flu virus
has been published (Taubenberger et al., 2005) and the virus itself
reconstructed. It proved to be as fatal as the original. When tested on
mice, it killed the animals more quickly than any other flu virus ever
tested (Tumpey et al., 2005).
What sounds like a brilliant piece of science is at the same time a recipe
for disaster. Given the availability of the virus' full-genome sequence
and the detailed method for its reconstruction on the Internet, its
production by rogue scientists is now a real possibility."
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The US Armed Forces Pathology Institute is now located in Bethesda,
Maryland - you know close to the motel where the hijackers apparently
planned 9/11 (according to James Bamford), oh and just across the road
from NSA/CIA HQ.
So swine flu was extinct before 2004, except in US Labs (military labs,
the same labs where the weaponised Anthrax originated and used in the 2001 attacks). |
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| Quote: | Emerging Diseases: Accident of Nature or Man-Made Illnesses? Dr. Alan Cantwell
In the 1970s it was thought many infectious diseases had been banished from the industrialised world. But with the spectacular rise of genetic engineering over the last two decades, more than 30 new emerging diseases have appeared around the world. Some of the better-known diseases include AIDS, Legionnaire’s disease, toxic shock syndrome, Lyme disease, hepatitis C, “mad cow disease”, hanta virus, various new encephalitis and hemorrhagic viruses, Lassa fever, and Ebola virus. (New controversial diseases like chronic fatigue syndrome and Persian Gulf War Syndrome affecting Gulf War veterans are not included in the CDC’s list of emerging diseases.) After 80 years of steady decline in infectious disease, the mortality rate in the US rose 58% between 1980 and 1992.
We blame this on increased global travel and globalisation, population growth and movements, deforestation and reforestation programs, human sexuality (in the case of HIV), and increased human contact with tropical mini-forests and other wilderness habitats that are reservoirs for insects and animals harbouring unknown infectious agents. But nowhere in the official list of causes is the fact that for years millions of animals and innumerable vials of infectious material have been shipped around the world for commercial and biological warfare purposes. In addition, we still have to deal with the “old” infectious agents, like anthrax bacteria, which are staples in all biowarfare laboratories. |
Although the arguments for AIDs being man-made would appear to be well founded (Try goggling it), it does not follow that all newly emerging diseases are so sourced. With only information gathered from the net, my take on the current Swine flu epidemic has changed from probably man-made to possible.
| Quote: | Center for Information Biology, National Institute of Genetics, Mishima, Japan.
Molecular evolutionary analyses for Ebola viruse were conducted with the aim of elucidating evolutionary features of these viruses. In particular, the rate of nonsynonymous substitutions for the glycoprotein gene of Ebola virus was estimated to be, on the average, 3.6 x 10(-5) per site per year. Those rates were a hundred times slower than those of retroviruses and human influenza A virus, but were of the same order of magnitude as that of the hepatitis B virus. |
The main aims given for the creation of man-made diseases are..
A: A New World Order plan to reduce the population, or induced populations to accept preventative chipping.
B: A further ploy by Global Pharmaceuticals to increase sales of pre-stocked treatments.
C: Failures in biotechnology 'defence' warfare experimentation by any nation that has a defence program.
To these I would add human curiosity. Given vials of Flu, AIDs and ebola, what if.. there was a disease that could be spread world wide, would lie dormant for five to ten years, have a mortality rate of fifty to 90 percent.
What can we do about it? Absolutely nothing. So may as well forget it, stop worrying(till you see the red crosses painted on the doors) and concentrate on things that can be changed. |
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Here it is in text:
http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Find-Freedom.htm?At=0056189&From=News
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| paul wright wrote: | | conspiracy analyst wrote: | This whole story is about flying pigs circulated by the capitalists pigs media  |
Well, no, it's a media flap to be sure. Disguising or averting attention away from many subjects to be sure
But imo, you've got to see it in concert with, for example, the engineered collapse of the economies
Some people say this is a beta test for a later outbreak
I would say that SARS was that beta test, seeing how an outbreak could be contained
I saw someone say that the Mexican flu could never be successfully contained by airport monitoring, however SARS was contained in precisely that way
This whole thing is entirely wrong.
We know that influenza epidemics, like the sun, rise in the East and set in the West, not the other way round like this
The collapsing of the economy was a signal that we were taken on as an enemy
This flu is a signal and a way of taking us on
It starts in the wrong place and the wrong time of year
It's similar to the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic time and place scale and will probably develop by the autumn of this year when they'll want us to take their developed flu vaccination in time for the upsurge in mortality rates expected for the winter when hyperinflation properly kicks in and malnutrition becomes commonplace, even in the 'developed' nations |
I dont believe in engineered collapses. Collapse is an inevitable by-product on a system based on money.
Fear is the issue and forms of social control.
Spanish flu occurred AFTER four years of world war, when the immune system of europeans was immesurably weakened due to rationing and war fighting.
Obama was seeking a way of controlling his borders and he found it with the support of the Mexican government. |
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I think you're completely wrong there. An engineered collapse is completely what it is all about. There is no inevitability about a fake system. The flu, the economy, the things to come. The folks in charge are working along with the times. There's no kind of intrinsic Marxist conundrum in play. It's planned, it's faulty, and it's coming
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| Quote: | | "We need preparation, knowledge and enlightenment. Panic is not useful." |
Listen to Dr Henry L Niman, on Rense Radio, expert on recombination, and he has been tracing H1 N1 for quite some time. http://rense.gsradio.net:8080/rense/special/rense_Swine_Flu_Special_04 2909.mp3
"The Straight Scoop on Swine Fever..."
my notes from the programme:
| Quote: | the data is being driven by the testing, more awareness
major difference with 1976 swine flu, soldier Fort Dix New Jersey, H1 N1, died, He was already weakened by pneumonnia. vaccinated millions in USA, hundreds either died or were severely harmed by the vaccine, the virus did not spread easily from human to human.
A lot of politics going on, no scientific basis for "manmade bio-weapon" talk. He is very clear about this. The virus isn't that unique, it's not that bad in its current form, but it is already at level 6, a pandemic, because it has sustained transmission and covers a significant distance human to human.
There is a proven high level of the virus h1n1, and a high likelihood of the swine h1n1 recombining with the human h1n1.
It's mild now, which is why its so dangerous. People are well enough to carry on at school and work, spreading the mild infection,
increasing the odds that someone somewhere will become infected with both virusses, their recombination, as in 1918.
In the southern hemishpere more and more people are going to be infected with human h1n1, at the same time the flu season in the northern hemisphere is over.
In Mexico they are only testing the ones who die of pneumonia, not the much greater numbers with mild h1n1.
This is the first wave that establishes the virus.
The 1918 flu came in 3 or 4 waves, starting end of Jan Feb til begin June
the second and end Aug til late Oct early Nov,
mortuaries running 15 minute services,
3rd wav begin Jan into spring, another killing wave,
brief 4th wave, virus seemed to fade
but h1n1 was still around in 1933
half pig-human genetic info in 1918.
25-44 age range of those who died, their own immune system kills them.
human body is the petri dish,
normal tissues get recognised as foreign because they are covered with the virus
Surpress immune system just enough, to save the patient. Timing impossible to predict.
Those who died had started to get better.
We need preparation, knowledge and enlightenment. Panic is not useful.
This isn't new, this human virus went into pigs in 1993. |
http://www.wpxi.com/video/19313969/index.html
Henry Niman talks swine flu
http://www.recombinomics.com/whats_new.html
His recombinomics website. |
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Meanwhile, back on the 'Ranch', in the warmer parts of Hades, 'Old Nick' chortles with delight, and rubs it's cloven hooves together.....
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e-mail update from AVAAZ
No-one yet knows whether swine flu will become a global pandemic, but it is becoming clear where it came from – most likely a giant pig factory farm run by an American multinational corporation in Veracruz, Mexico.(1)
These factory farms are disgusting and dangerous, and they're rapidly multiplying. Thousands of pigs are brutally crammed into dirty warehouses and sprayed with a cocktail of drugs -- posing a health risk to more than just our food -- they and their manure lagoons create the perfect conditions to breed dangerous new viruses like swine flu. The World Health Organization (WHO) and the Food and Agriculture Organisation (FAO) must investigate and develop regulations for these farms to protect global health.
Big agrobusiness will try to obstruct and scuttle any attempts at reform, so we need a massive outcry that health authorities can't ignore. Sign the petition below for investigation and regulation of factory farms and tell your friends and family and we will deliver it to the UN agencies. If we reach 200,000 signatures we will deliver it to the WHO in Geneva with a herd of cardboard pigs. For every 1000 petition signatures we will add a pig to the herd:
http://cdn.avaaz.org/en/swine_flu_pandemic
Last week the flu was all that we talked about -- Mexico has been nearly paralysed and across the world leaders halted air travel, banned pork imports and initiated drastic controls to mitigate the spreading virus. As the threat shows signs of subsiding the question becomes where it came from and how we stop another outbreak.
Smithfield Corporation, the largest pig producer in the world whose farm is being fingered as the source of the H1N1 outbreak, denies any connection between their pigs and the flu and big agrobusiness worldwide pays huge sums of money for research to argue that biosafety is ensured in industrial hog production. But the WHO has been saying for years that 'a new pandemic is inevitable'(2) and experts from the European Commission and the FAO have cautioned that the rapid move from small holdings to industrial pig production is in fact increasing the risk of development and transmission of disease epidemics. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention warn that scientists still do not know the extent that infectious compounds produced in factory farms affect human health.(3)
Studies abound of the horrific conditions endured by pigs in concentrated large-scale operations, and the devastating economic impact on small farmer communities of bloated large-scale operations.(4) Smithfield itself has already been fined $12.6m and is currently under another federal investigation in the US for toxic environmental damage from pig excrement lakes.(5)
But even with all of this damaging evidence, a combination of increased global meat consumption and a powerful industry motivated by profit at the cost of human health, means that instead of being shut down - these sickening factory farm operations are propagating around the world and we are subsidising them (6). In the wake of this swine flu threat, let's hold industrial pig producers to account. Sign the petition for investigation and regulation:
http://cdn.avaaz.org/en/swine_flu_pandemic
If we resolve this global health crisis boldly by reassessing our food consumption and production, and urgently calling for an inquiry into the impact of factory farms on human health, we could put in place tough farm practice rules that will save the global population from future animal borne lethal pandemics.
http://cdn.avaaz.org/en/swine_flu_pandemic
in hope,
Alice, Pascal, Graziela, Paul, Brett, Ben, Ricken, Iain, Paula, Luis, Raj, Veronique, Milena, Margaret, Taren and the whole Avaaz team
(1) Biosurveillance report tracing the disease to the Smithfields farm: http://biosurveillance.typepad.com/biosurveillance/2009/04/swine-flu-i n-mexico-timeline-of-events.html
Reports on the link between the Mexican factory farm and the flu:
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-ne ws/for-la-gloria-the-stench-of-blame-is-from-pig-factories-1675809.htm l
http://www.latimes.com/features/health/la-fg-mexico-flu28-2009apr28,0, 1701782.story
http://www.scientificamerican.com/podcast/episode.cfm?id=can-swine-flu -be-blamed-on-industri-09-05-01
http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227063.800-swine-flu-the-predi ctable-pandemic.html?full=true
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-kirby/swine-flu-outbreak----nat_b_ 191408.html
(2) WHO pandemic information
http://www.euro.who.int/influenza/20080618_19
(3) FAO, EC and CDC reports on the risks of industrial farming on public health
FAO and CIWF and http://www.cdc.gov/cafos/about.htm
(4) CIWF and PETA video reports of the disgusting conditions for animals in factory farms and the disease ridden manure swamps:
CIWF and PETA
(5) Reports on Smithfield's animal welfare and environmental damage
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/health-and-wellbeing/health-ne ws/for-la-gloria-the-stench-of-blame-is-from-pig-factories-1675809.htm l
http://www.foodandwaterwatch.org/press/releases/new-report-highlights- the-trouble-with-smithfield-article03132008
http://avaazimages.s3.amazonaws.com/SmithfieldJan08.pdf
(6) Reports on UK tax payers subsidising factory farms http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/agriculture/farming/5225298/Taxpayers -forking-out-700-million-for-factory-farming-in-England.html
Evidence is emerging that traces swine flu to giant factory pig farms that are dirty, dangerous, and inhumane. Sign the petition to the World Health Organization and the Food and Agriculture Organization to investigate and regulate these threats to our health: http://cdn.avaaz.org:80/en/swine_flu_pandemic?cl=227203341&v=3276
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Psssst...wanna buy some dope? Nice woman? cheap Tamiflu, senor?
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Don't joke a local man has it 
Colchester Gazett I was tempted to laugh out loud in their office but who knows where that would lead?
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| Disco_Destroyer wrote: | | Sign the petition below for investigation and regulation of factory farms and tell your friends and family and we will deliver it to the UN agencies. If we reach 200,000 signatures we will deliver it to the WHO in Geneva with a herd of cardboard pigs. For every 1000 petition signatures we will add a pig to the herd: |
Better yet if you're a meat-eater, keep your own pigs and discover how very clean and intelligent they really are.
Giant pig farms like this
are utter hell for the inmates. If only people exercised their imagination and compassion, hellholes like this just could not exist.
Meanwhile the bottom line rules all. From Abu Ghraib through Mingora to Veracruz...Parasite Eradication Programme urgently required!
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SAME OLD SWINE FLU RUSE...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ASibLqwVbsk&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Flatimesbl ogs%2Elatimes%2Ecom%2Ftechnology%2F2009%2F04%2F1976%2Dswine%2Dflue%2Dp sas%2Dattempt%2Dto%2Dcitizens%2Dinto%2Dgetting%2Dshots%2Ehtml&feature= player_embedded
SWINE FLU FIASCO BACK IN 1976....Andrew this interview was on the dvd you gave me on vaccines near the end of the section...worth putting on youtube...nails the lying barstards!
Swine Flu Fiasco
Archie Kalokerinos M.D.
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In 1976 I was in America when President Ford had been told by his health advisers that there was going to be a huge epidemic of ‘swine flu’, that this could kill may thousands and the only way to prevent this catastrophe was to vaccinate the entire population of America – every man woman and child - with a specific vaccine.
So the vaccine was manufactured and the biggest vaccination campaign in history was begun. I was concerned because the vaccine could not be properly tested in a short period. None of the recipients would know anything about what they were being injected with and the chances were that many would die suddenly. Furthermore, it was extremely unlikely that an epidemic of swine flu would occur. So I spoke out. At first the newspapers got hold of what I said and headlined, ‘Australian Physician Call It Mass Murder’. Then I appeared on Kathy Crosby’s television program.
Watching that was a man in New York who did not like a gentleman named Gambino the Mafia boss. Gambino was about 70 years old and had a history of heart problems. It was a simple matter to get someone to persuade Gambino to have the flu shot and Gambino obliged by dropping dead. The newspapers got it right when they stated, ‘Mafia Flu Jab Conspiracy’.
People were dropping dead in the buildings where they received their shots. Others became paralyzed. The whole program ground to a halt.
President Ford decided to settle the matter quickly. In front of the whole world, on television, he rolled up his sleeve and ‘had his shot’. I claimed at the time that he was given a ‘dud’ shot and I am certain that this was actually done. Then President Ford invited all the news media men and women who were milling around to line up and have their shots. Only one man volunteered and he happened to be the White House press secretary. All the others refused the invitation.
There was not a single case of swine flu. There never was going to be an epidemic of swine flu. How was it that the world’s most powerful man with the world's greatest department of health got it all so wrong? No one really knows the answer but what ever it is it is certainly not clean and tidy.
Furthermore, as far as I know I was the only practicing doctor who spoke out against it and warned about almost certain consequences. How was it that a doctor with only basic qualifications and not even the possessor of American citizenship stood out alone? There was at least one researcher, Anthony Morris, who did try to speak out but he was at the time censored and censored very hard.
This, therefore, is a classical example of how only one man got it right and everyone else got it wrong. This is an important consideration because, when the subject of vaccines is discussed the fact that the vast bulk of the medical establishment states that something is so it is not, in reality, necessarily so. If the establishment can get something so vast and important as the swine fiu vaccine campaign so wrong then it is logical to reason that they could also get a lot of other things wrong. At least it gives reasons to doubt what the establishment claims to be fact. If doctors and members of the general public considered this fewer errors would be made and fewer individuals would suffer unnecessarily.
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| Quote: | Swine flu cases pass 100 mark in UK
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Six adults and eight children were among the latest cases in London, the south east and the east of England.
It brings the total number of confirmed cases in the UK to 101.
A total of 11 of the latest cases involved patients who were contacts of previously confirmed cases, while two were returning travellers.
The source of infection for the other person remains under investigation, according to the HPA.
The latest cases follow updated advice from the Foreign Office telling British travellers they should feel free to go to Mexico after a fall in the number of new swine flu cases.
Holidaymakers and business travellers had been advised against all non-essential travel to the country, but the Foreign Office changed its guidance on Friday.
A spokesman said: "This change follows a decline in new cases of swine flu reported in Mexico since a peak on April 26 and takes into account information and advice from a variety of sources, including the UK Health Protection Agency."
Tests on the virus have suggested the strain is less virulent than first feared and the World Health Organisation is not recommending any global travel restrictions.
Nonetheless the Government on Friday signed contracts for up to 90 million doses of a pre-pandemic swine flu vaccine. The 10 new cases in London confirmed takes the total number in the capital to 57. |
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/21/20090517/tuk-swine-flu-cases-pass-100-mark -in-uk-6323e80.html
Job done?
How much do you reckon that little lot cost then?
And how many doses does a victim require?......divided by..... amount of victims expected? |
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'In Lies We Trust: the CIA, Hollywood and Bioterrorism' (Dr. Horowitz): full-length 2 1/2 hour documentary:
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-8674401787208020885
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Only because it would not be feasible to make vaccines in caves, especially if one were preoccupied with obtaining box-cutters without triggering a global alert.
But even if the crafty buggers manage to make one, Rumsfeld & Co. Ltd. will have the antidote (for a price!).
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| Posted: Wed Jun 10, 2009 7:22 pm Post subject: More fear and loathing on the way... |
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This is so blatant, so inexorable, how to get the message out that a combination of three natural ingredients are 99% proof against virii, man-made or Wickramasinghian (er) diseases from outer space.
Grapefruit Seed Extract - prophylactically 3 drops every other day, under attack 7-15 drops per day.
Echinacea - 15 days on, 15 days off
Natural Vitamin C in heroic doses of 1gm concentrate a day whilst under attack.
Now the bad news:-
http://www.fiercebiotech.com/story/bloomberg-who-readies-phase-6-pande mic-alert/2009-06-03?utm_medium=rss&utm_source=rss&cmp-id=OTC-RSS-FB0
| Quote: | Bloomberg: WHO readies phase 6 pandemic alert
June 3, 2009 — 9:29am ET | By John Carroll
World Health Organization Director-General Margaret Chan is wrestling with a thorny dilemma: How do you declare a phase 6 pandemic--the first warning in 41 years that a flu virus is entrenched in different continents and spreading from person to person--without causing a global panic?
Citing sources, Bloomberg reports that Chan will make the announcement in the next 10 days, but is trying to find a way to soften the blow by reassuring people that the new flu usually causes nothing more than mild symptoms. Over the past few years, fears of a deadly bird flu pandemic caused countries to adopt a variety of plans in the event the WHO declared a level 6 pandemic--including shutting borders, banning events and curtailing travel. Now the health organization wants to factor in the level of severity in its pandemic alert system.
The announcement will also almost certainly spur on vaccine developers who have been working feverishly to develop new jabs to guard people against A/H1N1. A host of major vaccine manufacturers plan to roll out a new vaccine later this summer as mass orders roll in from countries around the world, including the United States.
- read the report from Bloomberg |
which is at:-
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601202&sid=ay7hxxrfAcIU&refer =healthcare
Those who get caught up in 'mandatory' vaccination programs (many already in place) are in for a very sad time reminiscent of 1930's Germany, wrote large - very large...
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GlaxoSmithKline, Sanofi and Novartis. IG Farben perhaps? Oh no, wrong century, sorry, they're trading under Aventis & Bayer now.
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Very interesting programme. Kelly comes over as a very capable man. You certainly don't feel he had a frail ego and would contemplate suicide because of some nasty words from an MP.
One question troubles me: according to the programme, the US did not have a biological weapons program in 1991 but they clearly had capability by 2001: weaponised anthrax! |
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Here's another view
Intensive farming practices might be breeding more than pigs
Rosita Sweetman believes swine flu may be a wake-up call alerting us to the dangers of animal 'factories'
By Rosita Sweetman
Sunday June 21 2009
HERE'S the beef: unless we stop big corporations "farming" animals in factories, we're all going to die.
Actually, we may be going to die sooner than we think if the swine flu virus, incubating for years now in the huge industrial hog farms of the USA and Europe, keeps spreading at its current rate: 30,000 cases (and rising) within three months, across 74 countries, leading to 145 deaths. The latest victim -- a 30-something mum in Scotland -- dying just after giving birth to her premature baby.
I know, I know, I thought it was media hype too, and that maybe the dreadful Michael O'Leary of Ryanair was right: swine flu kills poor people in Mexican slums. No one else need worry. Fly on!
Em, no. Swine flu has been around a long time; its granddaddy is the 1918 Spanish flu which killed between 50 million and 100 million people.
Eerily, it's also behaving in similar ways; starting out as a swine-cum-human virus, spreading quickly, first in a mild form, before mutating and returning in virulent form, hitting under-30s hardest (75 per cent of cases), and killing via a "cytokine storm" -- a massive over-stimulation of the immune system..............
http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/intensive-farming-practices -might-be-breeding-more-than-pigs-1782344.html |
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