Tue30Jun - LONDON - Kollerstrom BBC talk meet Conway Hall

[Chi_of_life]

Terror On The Tube the new book from Progressive Press will be previewed in London at 6.30 on 30th June 2009 at Conway Hall.
We'll compare Dr Kollerstrom's findings into the 7th July bombings after watching the new BBC documentary.
Let's hope they are not too hard on him!
Dr Kollerstrom will take questions after... Unmissable!!
On the 30th June 2009 at 6.30

Meet at the stated time and place.
We have secured an alternative venue to be revealed at 6.30
due to MOD persons threatening each venue that allows free speech or discussion about 7/7.

The talk + WAC expose + BBC documentary
this will be an intriguing and memorable event.


Daniel Obachike

[Chi_of_life]

In their finite wisdom the BBC have decided to air their long awaited documentary of what happened on 7/7 on the same day and time as the meeting in Conway Hall where Dr Kollerstrom is speaking!

[TonyGosling]

Couldn't you have a live screening of the documentary followed by NK and DO talking and a discussion?

Just a thought as it is an interesting coincidence that may be turned to everyones advantage?

[Chi_of_life]

Yes Tony we are.
BBC show will be followed by a discussion critique with the man himself!

I'm quite excited.

[johnnyvoid]

you might want to speak to conway hall

this event is now cancelled

apparantly conway hall dont like holocaust deniers much

[insidejob]

…how Kollerstrom was rightly sacked..

…aware of his nazi-apologist …

..Kollerstrom published on a far right website. (which one?)

…This nasty little nutcase…

..his vile anti-semitism..

This stuff is easy. You can be ignorant and offensive and make these comments.

Who posted this on Indymedia? http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2009/06/433062.html

Johnny Smug, or
Jonny Void of any evidence?

You can advertise what a moral person you are by attacking Holocaust deniers and anti-Semites (so-called) so you can puff up your ego.

Yet, you have not come up with one single piece of evidence that demonstrates that Holocaust denial is baseless.

Instead you exploit people’s well-meaning feelings, their ignorance and Holocaust propaganda we’ve been feed. This official version of the Holocaust neglects to tell us about the collaboration between Zionists and Nazis. It neglects to tell us how Zionists said the Holocaust would be a good thing for a ‘Jewish’ homeland.

Or that 'father of Israel, Ben Gurion came to London and told a meeting that if he had a choice between saving half the Jews in Europe and bringing them to Israel or saving all of them by taking them to the US, he would save half of them.

Or that Bush’s grandfather financed Hitler.

You use smear by saying its anti-Semitic but you don’t even know what a Semite is. Most Jews are not. Indeed, many Semites who are from the Middle East don’t believe in the Holocaust. Are they Nazis as well? How do you know he hates Jews?

If you want to put Holocaust deniers in their place, come up with evidence of the Holocaust. Most people believe 6 million Jewish people were murdered during the Holocaust (is Hebrew for burnt offering). They know nothing of the mountain of evidence of collaboration between Zionists and Nazis.

- Explain how the Nazi burned over 6 millions bodies without leaving much trace
- Explain why there are no photographs depicting anyone being gassed in any chamber – despite lots of photographs of Nazis killing Jews.
- Explain why after the war, the Red Cross concluded that a couple of hundred thousand Jews were killed by Nazis and didn’t mention gas chambers.
- Explain why Jews didn’t physically fight against attempts to gas them. (Germans who denied extermination were attacked as liars yet the Jews themselves were clueless about it, we are supposed to believe)
- Explain why in marking the Holocaust there is barely a mention of Gays, socialists, disabled people, Gypsies who were also exterminated.

By the way, the Auschwitz Museum revised down their death figures from 3 million to 1.1 million, which means 4.1 million Jews were exterminated not 6 million.

Do us a favour and give us the facts. Then there would be no need for Holocaust denial.

If you can’t do that, why don’t you spare us your insulting ignorance.

insidejob

[TonyGosling]

You don't support Nick K by denying the holocaust yourself.
You merely drag him further down a hole.

Nick has made some indefencible comments about the Nazi holocaust.
Including saying nobody was gassed (on the Blairwatch site), when they clearly were.

But that doesn't mean Daniel's or Nick's comments about 7/7 should be censored.

I hope they can find an alternative venue.

[johnnyvoid]

i cant be bothered, sorry, got better things to do than indulging nazi apologists and its all been thoroughly debunked elsewhere

i just thought it worth a mention that you might want to scratch this date from your diaries

kind of a public service announcement

[Chi_of_life]

[Chi_of_life]

[johnnyvoid]

oh the lulz continue

just got off the phone to conway hall, this event is not happening, it seems the organiser refuses to accept this and say they have no right to cancel

conway hall are in the process of writing to them to point out the clause in the paperwork that allows them to cancel events

[johnnyvoid]

[IanFantom]

jonnyvoid - what is your connection with Conway Hall?

[IanFantom]

jonnyvoid - what is your connection with Conway Hall?

[johnnyvoid]

i dont have a connection with conway hall, i just phoned them to see if what chi said is true

obviously i happen to know its not true that i rang them and pretended to be chi and cancelled the event

kinda makes you wonder what else he's been fibbing about

[Whitehall_Bin_Men]

Before Void denies all, as he must.
This disruption op. has all the hallmarks of the MoD/Mossad disciples of chaos .

[Rachel]

[Dogsmilk]

I've previously been quite vocal about my opinion of Kollerstrom's clownish 'cut'n'paste from denier websites' attempts at Holocaust denial 'research', basically consisting of the kind the kind of ill-informed piffle insidejob has come out with on this thread. Personally, I have no time for the guy at all.

Nevertheless, despite my strong views about Holocaust denial I do think it is illegitimate to take action to stop him from booking a hall and speaking about something just like everyone else is entitled too. Since when was it a good thing that someone who is a Holocaust denier loses the right to book a hall and talk about something they want to? Holocaust denial is not a crime in this country and I am aware of no dictum that states deniers should be debarred from speaking about anything else. Much as I personally don't like his views, he has a right to them and giving people whose views you personally detest the right to express themselves is the essence of free speech. The only exception is incitement, which Kollerstrom does not engage in.

People might not like what he has to say about 7/7 either - and if that's the case people are free to respond to and debunk his work if they feel strongly about it. That's how free societies should work.

I just do not understand this smug satisfaction in stopping him from speaking if he so wishes. It's no good opposing Nazi apologists by adopting the Nazi view that only some opinions are allowed and those with the 'wrong' opinions should be prevented from having a voice. What makes us better than Nazis is accepting that people have viewpoints we strongly oppose and accepting their right to express them. Upon which we can say why we think they're wrong. It's not even as if Kollerstrom has had any impact - he's a nobody in the world of Holocaust denial and the denier community appears to have forgotten all about him - hell he doesn't appear to have said anything about denial for ages - I've certainly not seen him on CODOH (which, of course, censors the 'wrong' opinions like the Nazi apologist site it is). David Irving he ain't.
This smacks of a petty little 'victory'. I don't think it makes Conway Hall look good that they'll apparently cancel an arranged event on the basis one person complains a speaker has unpleasant views in an area other than the one they're speaking about either.

Seriously - why should Kollerstrom be prohibited from public speaking because he's a Holocaust denier?

[Chi_of_life]

Nice try Johnny Void,

Contacting Conway Hall demanding proof and posting the email for all to see. It speaks volumes about your motives and your desperation.

Nick Kollerstrom still has the right to speak in what is/was a free country, a country free enough to allow ppl to vote BNP if they so choose.
Would this give anyone the right to harass them from pillar to post?

We shall be at Conway Hall on the specified time and date. (We have an alternative venue) understandbly after MOD keep threatening venue owners we shall keep it secret until 6.30.

This has the makings of a legendary event in the UK truth Calender!
Thanks for the added intrigue, Mr Void.

Hi Rachel

[johnnyvoid]

my motives and desperation, thats a bit lame after you lied and said that id rang the venue claiming to be you

told anymore porkies recently

conway hall have a legal right to cancel any event they like, read the small print

incidentally you might want to think about the ramifications of contiuing to sell tickets for an event which is no longer going ahead or are you going to force your way into the venue

dogsmilk, this isnt about kollerstroms right to free speech, its about the right of conway hall to decide what events are held there and what they want to associate themselves with

clearly daniel thinks that a nazi apologist's right to free speech is more important than the right of an organisation to choose who it does and doesnt allow to hold talks there

[johnnyvoid]

[eogz]

I have to agree, that everyone is entitled to their right of free speech and fredom of action within the law.

Johnny Void has his opinion and has exercised his right to bring this to the attention of the Conway Hall.

Daniel has his opinion, and also exercises his right to try and get Conway or another venue.

Conway exercise their right to refuse certain group they choose not to be associated with.

Nick Kollestrom exercises his right to free speech too.

Whether or not we agree with each other is a mute point.

[ian neal]

[quote="johnnyvoid"]

[johnnyvoid]

but, the claim that im MOD, Mossad or any of the rest is based solely on the fact that i wrote to conway hall and registered my displeasure at the fact they were giving a platform to a holocaust denier

for that im firstly libelled and accused of ringing up the venue and claiming to be someone im not, that libel has now been removed since it was proved to be a blatant lie and attempt at a smear

instead, a new line appears that i must be MOD simply because i happened to disagree with someone about something

lies, smears, misinformation

and your suspicious of me

[Chi_of_life]

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