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scienceplease 2
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 Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 6:26 pm Post subject: Did AA11 & AA77 really take off on 9/11? |
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Missing Logbooks of the 9/11 Planes (FOI)
More startling information about 9/11 !!!!
http://www.911blogger.com/node/20456
Results from a FOI request: The Last Known Flights Of 9/11 Planes Took Place Nine Months Before 9/11 !!! And None logged for AA 77!
The information is returned from the U.S. Bureau of Transportation Statistics. The last logged pre-9/11 flights for three of the four aircraft involved in the terrorist attacks of September 11, 2001 took place in December, 2000, nine months before the attacks. No flight information is available for these planes during 2001 until 9/11.
There is no final flight information for American Airlines flight 77 (N644AA) (which supposedly flew into the Pentagon).
Yet the U.S. Code of Federal Regulations requires carriers to provide on-time data for their commercial aircraft on a monthly basis. It seems unrealistic to think that this was some kind of reporting error for all 4 aircraft.
Further information provided at 911Blogger.
This information would have come out immediately if there had been ANY form of air crash investigation. |
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From http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2009/06/american-airlines-exp oses-bushs-big-lie.html
| Quote: | ... ... ...WikiScanner discovered that American Airlines changed their Wikipedia entry to state that Flights 11 and 77 never flew on 9/11.
Original entry was:
Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: American Airlines Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and American Airlines Flight 11 (a Boeing 767).
New entry is:
Two American Airlines aircraft were hijacked and crashed during the September 11, 2001 Terrorist Attack: Flight 77 (a Boeing 757) and Flight 11 (a Boeing 767). Although these flights were daily departures before and a month after September 11, 2001. Neither flight 11 nor 77 were scheduled on September 11, 2001. The records kept by the Bureau of Transportation Statistics (www.bts.gov/gis/) do not list either flight that day.
A Google search of the IP address that made the change - 144.9.8.21 - is located at American Airlines.
Why the change American airlines? Did the flights actually operate or did we just imagine all of that? ... ... ... |
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scienceplease 2
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The main difference with this result is the fact that from a supposedly authorative source, there is no data.
This is more important than an airline changing its database (for whatever reason) - which can easily be dissed by debunkers.
The point is, we go to an "authorative" data source, and there is no data. |
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scienceplease 2
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| kookomula wrote: | | There's a new post on this p2 - 911blogger |
I presume you mean this:
| Quote: | Just want to warn you that some debunker found flight informations for 2001 on the BTS website. Maybe you should check this (copy/past of the debunker post) :
Go to the BTS inquiry page. ( http://www.bts.gov/xml/ontimesummarystatistics/src/dstat/OntimeSummary Depatures.xml )
Check "All statistics".
Flight 175 regularly flew out of San Francisco, so choose that as the Origin Airport.
Choose United Airlines as the airline.
Check September for the month.
Check All Days to see information for all of September.
Check 2001 for the year.
Click Submit. And wait (that's a big query).
When it comes back, use your browser to search for Flight 175's tail number, N612UA. And look! It flew out of SF on the 1st, the 5th, the 7th, and the 10th, and (surprise surprise) there are no further flights.
So, the BTS database tells us that there were recorded flights for Flight 175 after 2000. There's no evidence this plane was "grounded" at all. I've not checked the other flights, but does anyone want to bet there aren't records of September 2001 flights for those, too?
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I think the mystery here is that the FOI request came back blank. The information clearly is not accurate. Was the FOI response in error or has data been deleted? In any way you wish to consider this, it is strange and deserves an appropriate explanation. |
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