COINTELPRO Techniques against groups & web forums

Thermate911 · Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 9:50 am Post subject:

Hmm, really activist-friendly site this 'theinfounderground.com' ! I was going to offer to edit their piece above to improve credibility but on my first visit...

rodin · Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:36 am Post subject:

Thermate911 · Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 11:53 am Post subject:

granden · Validated Poster Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 14

David Myatt, Anton Long, Blackpresence and BBC Ouch

Re this thread

http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=17524&sid=b8b7c5d4702 9836f428dfde3b86bb283

I have observed many of these tactics at first hand on a series of message boards hacked, closed down, disrupted and controlled by the pseudonymous Mr. Anton Long. The common feature of these message boards was that they were mostly for Afro-Caribbean and disabled people. Why anyone would see a message board for disabled people as a political threat is unclear.

I hadn't realized these techniques were so formalized and widespread. This blog

http://truthisgolden.wordpress.com

(or here)

http://bnvillage.blogono.com/

only really scratches the surface. However, it does show screenshots of some of these tactics in operation. Anton Long now has full control of the BBC Ouch! disability forums using technique 6, plus bullying, censorship, topic dilution, hacking, arbitrary banning and then 'local enforcement', which includes attacks on disabled people. And before you ask, no the police wont help.

The same strategy is being used on Afro-Caribbean forums. The genuine ones like BLINK and The Voice have been shut down or disrupted. 'Honeypots' like Blackpresence and BN Village have been set up in their place.

Moon-in-Taurus · Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 12:58 pm Post subject:

Dis-synchronous posting, didn't see links directly above, chilling.

What do WRH and DBS stand for?

So nice to see this being talked about openly. It's the very sort of thing that stops a cautious person ever posting on forums at all.
I'm just sitting here in the corner, dribbling and munching my toes (metaphorically, though not a state of post-modern angst) . But I did think it was worth mentioning that a favourite hang-out of mine has recently had a few passers-by from the United States Op-Ed site.

They were of particular interest because they had managed to maintain a voice by resisting rude language and forbidden topics. Even so they have recently been banned, even an editor, for criticising mein fuhrer Obama.

Such a shame in the land of the free.

rodin · Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 9:03 pm Post subject:

WRH What Really Happened

DBS Darryl Bradford Smith

fish5133 · Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 11:49 pm Post subject:

This site is getting on average 2 new user accounts per day. Most never posting, some just using it to post ads, some obviously spying/gleaning info. Wonder how many sleepers there are waiting to pounce?
On top of all that there is the balance of maintaining free speech, keeping the site "kosher" by binning or sectioning off material that may give the site a bad name (unnecesarily so). As well as personal spatz between posters.
soldier on

raffy · Minor Poster Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Posts: 14

Thermate911 · Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 3:16 pm Post subject:

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Pugwash · Posted: Sat Jun 27, 2009 4:57 pm Post subject:

Off-topic note:-
Moon-in-Taurus wrote.

granden · Validated Poster Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 14

Raffy is not what he seems. Probably best not to click on any of his links until you have looked at these:

http://www.declarepeace.org.uk/captain/murder_inc/site/nazi.html

http://rigorousintuition.yuku.com/topic/821/t/David-Myatt-Searchlight- article.html

http://bnvillage.blogono.com/

http://www.truthforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1583&sid=4664394 9697a756a24edeb258645e8ee

http://kerridelacruz.wordpress.com

When raffy had rational questions put to him here:

http://www.truthforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1583&sid=4664394 9697a756a24edeb258645e8ee

He refused to answer every one. Why?

raffy · Minor Poster Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Posts: 14

TonyGosling · Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2009 8:01 pm Post subject:

You've got a bit of a cheek raffy criticising granden for being anonymous.

granden · Validated Poster Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 14

Thank you TonyGosling - I did wonder if anybody else had noticed!

For those who are interested there is an extra post related to this over on:

http://www.truthforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1583&sid=4664394 9697a756a24edeb258645e8ee

The following little snippet from the 'AboutMyatt' site, poses a few more questions for raffy to answer.

"Myatt has always denied being a Satanist, and has asserted that:

(a) He once – and decades ago, in the 1970’s and before he entered the novitiate of a Nazarene monastery – had a purely academic interest in the Occult as part of his Faustian desire to “seek wisdom and understanding”;

(b) He once – in the early 1970’s while active as a Nazi and again before he entered the novitiate of a Nazarene monastery – “conceived a plan to use or if necessary create secret Occult-type groups” with the subversive aim of using them to further his plan to “create a revolutionary situation which a National-Socialist group might take advantage of”. However, he soon abandoned this plan because “the meagre achievements were far outweighed by the problems these groups caused.”

Later in this passage we read:
"Myatt gave a clue as to the real identity of Anton Long in an 1997 interview with Nick Lowles when he admitted to doing a favor for a “long standing friend”. This friend was, at that time, an Oxford academic."

Would this 'favor' be the use of a Reading PO Box number to distribute Satanist literature for 'The Order of Nine Angles' ? And was that same Box number, the one that Myatt used, to run his nazi 'National Socialist Movement' organization from? You remember raffy, the organization that David Copeland joined, just before he maimed and murdered all of those adults and babies?

You see the problem most normal people will have with your 'position' raffy, is that they don't know anyone who has 'a purely academic interest in the Occult'. Nor have they ever had the slightest inclination to ' create secret Occult-type groups with the subversive aim of ....blah blah". Some people's reaction on reading this, might be, 'NUTTER!'. And then when they see you constantly talking about Satanism on websites which also discuss David Myatt - they wonder. They wonder why David Myatt ever got involved in Satanism at all. Someone who has a history of dabbling in Satanism, is much more likely to be a Satanist now, than a person who has had no involvement at all. Can you see how it might look to the casual observer raffy?

Two very prominent characteristics of psychopathic disorders are as follows:
1) Intensely devious behavior.
2) In the latter stages, there is a complete inability to empathize with other human beings - even when that empathy would assist the psychopath in gauging the gullibility of potential victims. This causes the psychopath to continue lying about his crimes, long after everyone else knows the truth.

So when screenshots of Anton Long threatening a disabled woman in 2006 turn up, raffy expects everyone else to believe that this is part of an evil smear campaign. But you must admit raffy, you are the one who keeps linking to weirdo Satanist websites which repeatedly refer to Anton Long. With your documented history of involvement with Satanism, murder, fascism, bombing, racist violence - isn't it a tad more likely that it was you who threatened a disabled woman back in 2006, rather than me?

I'm not a Satanist raffy and I haven't linked to any Satanist websites, but you have. Why would you do that?

Having established that you have strong, provable, documented links with Satanism - whereas I have none - we can re-examine the Kerri Delacruz case.
Shortly after these blogs:

http://kerridelacruz.wordpress.com
or,
http://kerridelacruz.iblog365.com

were published, a number of very cruel 'parody' blogs were released. They used virtually identical tags and URLs to the originals. However, they openly insulted Kerri Delacruz and trivialized the terrible ordeal she suffered. One of the tags in these blogs was 'Anton Long's' 'Order of Nine Angles', the Satanist sect which was being run from the same Reading box No. as David Myatt's 'National Socialist Movement'. Even more significantly, these vile blogs were linked to members of the 'Death Metal' community. At the time of writing, If you Google 'Anton Long, David Myatt and Death Metal' it brings up several entries about the connection between Death Metal and Satanism. I found some on

www.scribd.com

Bearing in mind the immediate hostile reaction from the Death Metal 'community' to the Kerri Delacruz blog, it is not inconceivable that the youths who attacked this woman were recruited from Death Metal forums by Anton Long.

With this in mind, perhaps people might like to look at what self confessed Satanist 'Anton Long' was saying to a disabled woman back in 2006 (see blogs above).

Long's comments are totally weird and show distinct similarities to the equally nasty things said by Kerri Delacruz's attackers. The uniquely obsessive language used by both 'Anton Long' and the youths, raises the the question of whether these young people were manipulated by a much older man.

A similar question might be asked about David Copeland. He joined the 'National Socialist Movement' - an organization run by much older men - and shortly afterwards he committed a series of horrendous crimes.

In the final analysis, the internet is not a court of law. It is a place where we can use our common sense. If somebody has a very dodgy past, most people will automatically take this into account when examining new claims of wrongdoing.

raffy · Minor Poster Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Posts: 14

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granden · Validated Poster Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 14

This is all a bit 'one note' raffy.

1) You still haven't told us how you know that David Myatt is only running one website. you claimed to know this here:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread460793/pg1

Are you David Myatt?

2) Over on the 'TruthForum':

http://www.truthforum.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1583&sid=4664394 9697a756a24edeb258645e8ee

you were asked why David Myatt wrote an article sympathizing with David Copeland AFTER David Myatt became a Muslim.
Still no answer.

You keep asking me about David Myatt's involvement with MI5 and you have asked me to publicize a police incident number. Asking these questions reinforces the impression that you are mentally ill. Please see a doctor before you hurt anyone else.

raffy · Minor Poster Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Posts: 14

You still haven't answered any of the questions asked, nor provided any evidence, and just yet again indulge in personal accusations -
argumentum ad hominem - to try and hide your failure to do this.

granden · Validated Poster Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 14

"The world - and Myatt - have moved on"

I wonder if the world has "moved on" for the surviving relatives of people murdered in Copeland's insane nail-bombings. Easy to trivialize their suffering isn't it raffy?

granden · Validated Poster Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 14

Raffy, do you think the world has also "moved on" for Kerri Delacruz?

Did you know raffy, that when the black cowled assailants cut up Kerri Delacruz, they cut her breast open. When the blood coagulated, they cut her open again. She has a steel rod in her back to support her spine. They cut the back of her pajamas open and then started hacking away at her operation scar. Anton Long (2006) - Quote "your operation scar - where is it?"

The youths who attacked Kerri Delacruz were filled with hate for disabled women. They told her she was a "“spastic who should’ve been drowned at birth”". Anton Long (2006) - Quote "spastics’ should be drowned at birth".

Quote from Gerry Gable of Searchlight Magazine.
"I think you have to look at a young man like Copeland and think here's a young guy who's done terrible damage to our society. He's killed. He's done terrible damage to himself and his family as well. Who at point (a) is responsible for all of this? Who wrote those terrible ideas up in that boy's mind? And I think you just go and see who produces this hate material and you know."

Raffy, are you David Myatt?

granden · Validated Poster Joined: 04 Mar 2009 Posts: 14

I haven't answered your questions raffy because they are irrational. Why would I post a police incident number on the internet? How would I know about any of David Myatt's personal arrangements?
I refer you to my comments on the psychopathic mindset above. You are making matters worse by asking me questions which will not or cannot be answered.

raffy · Minor Poster Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Posts: 14

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Frank Freedom · Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 5:39 pm Post subject:

Thanks for the a practical demonstration of Technique #3 guys Thumbs Up

raffy · Minor Poster Joined: 25 Apr 2009 Posts: 14

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