Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 2017 Location: Croydon, Surrey
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 9:44 am Post subject: BBC now admits al qaeda never existed
Hmm.......does it make any difference now that what Robin Cook (and many posters on this site and elsewhere) have been asserting is now accepted as being true by a part of the establishment?
Does it make any difference that our politicians and the media have been lying through their teeth about this for the past 8 years?
Is this revelation being leaked out now a further element in the occult trajectory that is meant to further disable and demoralise decent society.
I mean.....should there not be violent revolution in this country (and throughout the western world) after a massive lie like this exposed?
(This was watched by less than 1% of the population on BBC4)
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 1959 Location: South London
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 1:51 pm Post subject: Re: BBC now admits al qaeda never existed
kbo234 wrote:
Hmm.......does it make any difference now that what Robin Cook (and many posters on this site and elsewhere) have been asserting is now accepted as being true by a part of the establishment?
It all builds up the pressure for change
kbo234 wrote:
Does it make any difference that our politicians and the media have been lying through their teeth about this for the past 8 years?
I'm afraid it does. It induces disbelief in the truth and unwillingness to investigate.
kbo234 wrote:
I mean.....should there not be violent revolution in this country (and throughout the western world) after a massive lie like this exposed? ?
No there should not. As soon as we use violence the PTB will use violence. They have the stun guns, the rubber bullets, the CS gas, the pepper spray and worse: automatic weapons with dumdum bullets. We don't, so we're not sheeple but mutton if we play that game. It's just what they want us to do so they have a good excuse to gun us down. We must not give it to them.
Think Ghandi, Martin Luther King, Cory Aquino, Solidarity, Velvet Revolution, Vaclav Havel, Hugo Chavez etc. The way to effective change is through non-violent revolution, the way to defeat is through violence. And watch out:
A - for angry people who can only think in terms of violence
B - for agents provocateurs who will be placed there by the PTB to foment violence
Effective non-violence requires training.
"But," you may say "We need guns to defend ourselves or we'll get gunned down."
Non-violence does take casualties, but not nearly as many as violence does. We need to use intelligence to channel our anger into something that works.
Joined: 10 Dec 2005 Posts: 2017 Location: Croydon, Surrey
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 6:46 pm Post subject:
Fiona Bruce Said that the Taliban guy who was killed by a missile fired from a drone had links with Al Queda and others responsible for the assaination of Benazir Bhutto and the major attack in Mumbai....or something very close to that....
....so Al Qaeda lives on in the imagination of every right-thinking briton.
Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 475 Location: North London
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 8:27 pm Post subject: Powerful nightmares
It is from Power of Nightmares. On the face of it, a brilliant programme but unfortunately the programme maker was duped. Not long after the programme said that UK-based terrorism was non-existent, 7/7 happened
It argues that Islamic extremism is a genuine movement that Bin Laden was a part of. It fails to state that Islamic extremism was a Western creation.
Joined: 13 May 2009 Posts: 40 Location: North Devon, UK
Posted: Fri Aug 07, 2009 10:23 pm Post subject:
How can Jason Bourke be so frank in this and yet in his newspaper columns he just tows the party line, not many people will see this clip... how convenient
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 12:03 am Post subject: Re: Powerful nightmares
insidejob wrote:
It is from Power of Nightmares. On the face of it, a brilliant programme but unfortunately the programme maker was duped. Not long after the programme said that UK-based terrorism was non-existent, 7/7 happened.
It argues that Islamic extremism is a genuine movement that Bin Laden was a part of. It fails to state that Islamic extremism was a Western creation.
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 575 Location: the eyevolution
Posted: Sat Aug 08, 2009 6:06 pm Post subject:
The P of N also claims that Bin Laden didn't use the term "Al Qaeda" until after 9/11 when he realised that was the term the US were using for his "terrorist group".
Nice of him to comply like that isn't it?
It's almost as though...he's...working with them...
The power of nightmares also debunks the underground cave fortresses peddled as truth by Rumsfeld on Meet the Press.
They have this totally laughable diagram of a vast underground complex.
The diagram comes complete with little arrows pointing to the different sections of the fortress like bedrooms and offices, arms and ammunition warhouses, and my personal favourite "secret exits"
It's suggested that the fortresses are "cut deep to avoid thermal detection" begging the question...
"Hey Rumsfeld, how come you know they exist!?"
He's quoted as saying "There's not one of those there are many of those"
Nope, none of them were ever found. Yet more lies from the lying liars.
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