9/11 disinfo agents

[mason-free party]

Hmmm...i'd like to talk with Shelly Doman...if anyone knows her contact details...this is what she posted recently

Ronson appeared on this thread

http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=2482&postdays=0&post order=asc&start=0

Then days later Indimedia launch this attack on us.

The Trojan Horse of Activism - British 9/11 “Truth” Movement
Shelly Doman | 24.07.2006 19:18 | London

Founded by Freemasons with the intention of creating a political party, the “British 9/11 Truth Movement” actively aims to collect all forms of ‘truth seeker’ together under the control of one governing body. Using vicious attacks on those who refuse to agree or work with the group they are exposing their true nature to those of us with our eyes open.


Many activist groups are aware of the infiltration of our movements however those who aim to destroy us have upped their game in recent months.

Under the guise of ‘activism’ a new breed of control has emerged within the British Isles bent on fighting, alienating and discrediting those who are trying to make positive changed in the world around them. Here I will show the techniques being used by this group.

Founded by Freemasons with the intention of creating a political party, the “British 9/11 Truth Movement” actively aims to collect all forms of ‘truth seeker’ together under the control of one governing body. Using vicious attacks on those who refuse to agree or work with the group they are exposing their true nature to those of us with our eyes open.

Examples:

Harassment of July Seven London Bombing survivor Rachel North which involved heckling her public speeches, constant calls to her work place and her family members. They have now taken to publicly labelling Rachel North as a “shill”, “MI5 agent” or government operative. The fact Rachel North is the most prominent campaigner for an independent inquiry into last years attacks have conveniently slipped the collective mind of the British 9-11 Truth Movement.

David Shayler is connected and supports the efforts of the group, an ex MI5 agent who is rumoured to be currently working for British intelligence. No labels or attacks have been nor will be tolerated against Shayler.

Jon Ronson has recently been b****** for simply asking questions on the message board. When a mainstream reporter considers the alternative story of 9-11 to be worth investigating, he too is immediately labelled a “shill” and suspected of ‘working for the other team’ merely because of his race. The aim here is to create the impression that all activists are small minded racists who would prefer to remain under the radar than get our message to a wider audience.

Again let me clarify, Ronson only asked questions and did not make any assumptions.

The Indymedia Summer of Truth has been ignored by the British 9-11 Truth Movement. Why?

Surely we are on the same team? No. The British 9-11 Movement demand action and events follow their guidelines, and profit margins or no support is offered.

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2006/07/345958.html

The PTB must be getting distressed putting out such disinfo.

[DeFecToR]

Bloody hell.
Mental.

I take it there is no truth to this statement;

[mason-free party]

ok..edited and apology

[DeFecToR]

Er, i'm lost here. Sorry for being a dullard but whats this got to do with Flamesong?

[kookomula]

I wouldn't be surprised if a few of us have met Shelly whatsit, the language pattern and keyword I've heard used recently might be a giveaway Still.....not too much damage done.

What an accusation to make ay

[mason-free party]

DH...ok i may be wrong about Flamesong but it seems to me that Indymedia are trying to hijack the 9/11 movement and get someone like Shelly to post disinfo to cause division in the movement...i'm very suspect of the Summer of Truth organisers who are trying to do the same in America...be on your guard this is typical masonic intelligence tactics

[kookomula]

I'm a little naive when it comes to this sort of thing, so could you please explain what you meant by indymedias attempt to hijack the movement and then get someone like Shelly wotsit to cause divisions?

[Leiff]

Alex Jones says:

'You know you're over the target when you start taking flak'

[paul wright]

I've chatted with Chris from the Sheffield Indy collective and he seems a perfectly right enough guy. The movies were chosen on the basis of having irrefutable back up for all the contents, and as we know, LC is being revised again to get rid of the more iffy bits.
As for Jimmy,well he's a fatcat millionaire that the comrades wouldn't be seen dead defending, I suppose
I was invited over to do a stall one Sunday and hope to make it for this last film show. I shall make sure this website gets a fair airing

I wish you'd stop making me defend people, mason free.
You're going to have me down as a Brother soon, if you haven't already

[paul wright]

Yup mason free - I know - ya cant be too careful but then ya cant go letting off a lot of vitriol against individuals without an ordered backup of evidence
I wish you'd focus on all those little debunking trolls scurrying around wasting people's time and energy. Perhaps you have - I can't be bothered to study their tiresome threads
On symbolism, I'm wanting to start something that is everybody's right. The power of pictures, symbols, word patterns, mantras, stuff like that they use for nefarious purposes - get it back into the hands of the people - people power

[paul wright]

well mason free - you bought it

[kookomula]

And there I was yesterday saying (on Indymedia) that we were "one of the friendliest, most respectful and informative forums around". Oh well.

[sonic]

It seems to me that our forum moderators need to act now to stop the rot so to speak and create an alternative forum without delay.

What on earth will new visitors to our forum think when they read the constant bickerings of late. I can only imagine that they will be put off the 911 truth movement, and who could really blame them.

Come on moderators, time for some appropriate action here.

Peace

Sonic.

[paul wright]

[flamesong]

[Abandoned Ego]

Fear is the key here.

Fear creates suspicion.

Abandon the fear and the suspicion will melt away.

I bet a pound to a pinch of faesces that were we all sat face to face in a pub there wouldnt be a cigarette paper between our overall beliefs - or at least nothing that we wouldnt iron out one way or another in a heads up.

And I also bet we would all leave as friends.

Alas, here is one of the problems of us all being unseen and thus personally unknown ( to each other ) commentators.

Weve all got to live with that.

But remember this. Its still the fear that creates suspicion. Dealing with your fears is my best advice.

PS. Amazing what a 3 quid bottle of red wine can do sometimes

[paul wright]

or 3 quid of skunk in a pipe - yuh well hello from planet nibiru - we're heading your way - pleased to meet you soon - una - thousandth generation down from Anu

[kookomula]

No Flamesong, I don't have any suggestions for you. It was a joke. Have you read the one about the tiddlywinks?

[dodgy]

Some nice hot cuppas and a few biccies does the trick too. Everybody'd be a lot more chilled if they stuck a brew on and broke open the Jammy Dodgers

[paul wright]

[John White]

Go for the ultimate: homemade scones with clotted cream and organic strawberry jam to accompany hot fresh darjeeing with a dash of milk...

I believe it is important to hold on to the values we hold dear...

[paul wright]

[John White]

Jammie Dodgers are an acceptable substitute when out and about with a thermos... although really, we should be talking happy faces

[flamesong]

[DeFecToR]

This entire thread is pathetic. If i were new here i'd be off like a shot.

Mason free party, bloody well apologise properly and get this out of the way. Seriously, this kind of bickering appears childish and pointless.

[xmasdale]

[flamesong]

[DeFecToR]

Yes you are right. Defending yourself against slander is something anyone would want to do. Its a shame though that issues people have with each other cant be sorted out with some level of mutual respect. Seems wierd (and annoying) that MFP would just up and start a thread like this, cause problems, make the forum look bad, and then bu*ger off without resolving the issue.

[xmasdale]

[ian neal]