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Were the KLF Situationists?

 
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 31, 2009 11:53 pm    Post subject: Were the KLF Situationists? Reply with quote

Enjoyed rewatching this.
In this video of "The Last Train To Trancentral" KLF are Situationists.
They seem somewhat subvesrive.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXEOESuiYcA

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the answer is yes they were subversive but not sure if they were situationists.
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:49 am    Post subject: KLF subversive? Nah, 'course not! Reply with quote

Depends on your definition of 'situationist'. If Bill Butt burning a million quid comes under that term, then YES ;-)

Read his book, '45'
http://www.beefheart.com/zine/001/45rm.htm

Prankster might be a more apt term...
http://www.wordmagazine.co.uk/content/bill-drummond-man-who-wants-end- recorded-music

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There seems to be a lot of subversive and hidden elements to their music such as the motif of a band as a military outfit, the belief in a strange religion with their entire own (if meaningless) mythos.
Maybe they were just off their heads but I get the delightful feeling that they were somewhat playing with their audience and taking the mickey out of the ruthlessly commercialised music industry.



Working with Tammy Wynette was a brilliant feat to pull off. Their tunes sure stand the test of time.

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"On 23 August 1994, the K Foundation (Bill Drummond and Jimmy Cauty) burnt one million pounds sterling in cash on the Scottish island of Jura. This money represented the bulk of the K Foundation's funds, earned by Drummond and Cauty as The KLF, one of the United Kingdom's most successful pop groups of the early 1990s. The duo have never fully explained their motivations for the burning." text is out of this long and interesting article: http://www.answers.com/topic/the-k-foundation-burn-a-million-quid wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_K_Foundation_burn_a_million_quid video source is the chaosradio podcast: http://chaosradio.ccc.de/ctv091.html

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote




Latin Quarter - Modern Times
Release Date
19th August 2002 on the Cherry Red record label - CDMRED 216

A DJ friend has both a cd and vinyl version on a different label from about 1985? With the exact same picture. Latin Quarter - Modern Times was broadcast many times on Radio Caroline.

http://www.radioafrica.co.uk/

“Latin Quarter were formed in August 1983, initially consisting of Mike Jones (Lyrics), Steve Skaith (Vocals, Guitar) and Richard Wright (Guitar). This line-up has formed the backbone of Latin Quarter ever since. Mike Jones and Steve Skaith, both members of Big Flame a political organisation concerned with social justice, actually starting writing and home-recording two years prior to the formation of the band. It was said of Phil Ochs that the basis to his songwriting was that "A pamphlet, no matter how good, is never read more than once, but a song is learned by heart and repeated over and over" and this truth was one of the driving forces for Mike Jones and Steve Skaith.”


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Since first seeing this web site about a year ago i have noticed they now! give a clue.

With the menu LQ Albums Modern times 2002 and Modern times. Same picture.
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