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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 9:28 am    Post subject: 9/11 Truthers — Time is on Our Side Reply with quote

By Douglas Herman
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2-21-7

"911 fantasists pose a mortal danger to popular oppositional campaigns." -George Monbiot

The Left gatekeepers are at it again. Attempting to "debunk" scientific facts, outright fraud, and the transparent government complicity with the alleged 911 plot and plotters, some influential Leftists (and former critics of the official 911 story) have adopted the official version. When backed against the wall about their change of heart, they resort to sweeping personal attacks and a blatant disregard of the mountains of evidence and testimony involving the greatest unsolved crime of the century.

Monbiot, like fellow Leftists Cockburn ,Chomsky and Goodman have done yeoman work, praiseworthy work, deserving of all the accolades and admiration they've received, for fighting the corporate state, for fighting for the environment, for fighting for impoverished and disenfranchised people around the world. But sadly, regards 911, they somehow fail to see the connection: A soulless political body capable of waging a pre-emptive war causing hundreds of thousands of casualties while spreading radioactive poisons around the world, is EXACTLY the type of machine capable of carrying out---or implementing---the 911 attack.

Monbiot wrote about 911 skeptics, Truthers as they've styled themselves, that they suffer from an "epidemic of gibberish." Monbiot then adds: "Why do I bother with these morons? Because they are destroying the movements some of us have spent a long time trying to build. Those of us who believe that the crucial global issues - climate change, the Iraq war, nuclear proliferation, inequality - are insufficiently debated in parliament or congress, that corporate power stands too heavily on democracy, that war criminals, cheats and liars are not being held to account."

Every Truther I know wants desperately to hold war criminal, cheats and liars accountable. In fact, we've drawn a straight line from 911 to the faked war on terror. Far from being "morons," most of us are skeptics, patriots, armchair detectives, veterans and scholars---following in the footsteps of other skeptics (truthers) like Diogenes, Plato, Paul of Tarsus, Galileo, Tom Paine, Thoreau and two-time medal of Honor winner (and Truther), Smedley Butler.

We do not suffer fools, or government apologists gladly. We do not overlook the mountains of suspicious evidence, of eyewitness reports, of pure scientific data. Indeed many Truthers have become amateur metallurgists, structural engineers, physicists, pamphleteers, logicians, statisticians

Time is on our side. Heretics now, we sleep secure in the knowledge the truth will emerge one day. Time is on our side, as more and more disgruntled (and dying) 911 first responders, outraged former US government officials and knowledgeable insiders come forward.

As the cutthroats in power devise additional war crimes---the predicted nuclear attack on Iran or another false flag 911 "attack"--we Truthers realize our ranks will swell. Inevitably but tragically. Even government apologists like Monbiot and Guy Smith can only concur so long with the official government version of 911, before they've lost all credibility forever.

The desperate, final twenty months of the current criminal regime will likely include further bloodthirsty actions, cementing our case that those in power are responsible for 911. To any knowledgeable Truther, those in power devised a flawed but diabolical plan on September 11, 2001 and nearly got away with the crime. And although a complicit media is doing yeoman like work (take a bow, George) to dampen skepticism, more and more people are asking questions, demanding answers.

The BBC Crime Family

Like most believers in the BBC (Bush, Blair, Cheney) version of 911 events, debunkers claim the White House---George Bush particularly--- is too inept to implement 911. Too dumb. They claim a bungler like Bush, who bungled the Iraq War, would have bungled 911.

Sadly, Monbiot and Cockburn have studied little world history. Consider how a bungled anarchist and second-rate painter grabbed power in Germany (with the backing of bankers and industrialists, Prescott Bush among others) and cemented fascist power there with a false flag operation called the Reichstag Fire. Then this "bungler" masterminded a series of attacks on surrounding countries, conquering and occupying many of them in the process.

When the Left gatekeepers accuse the 911 Truth Movement of being "distracted" in opposition to the military-corporate-media triad, we Truthers can only shake our collective heads. As time passes, those misguided patriots (or disinfo pros), may yet realize that 911 was the golden key to the Pandora's box. They may yet realize the 911 attack was a state-sponsored, state implemented operation carried out by professionals, involving several tiers, several hierarchies of power. Needless to say, when a former German corporal, former imprisoned anarchist, former "bungler" named Adolf Hitler, devised a daring yet diabolical attack plan, those who implemented the plan---Generals Guderian, von Rundstedt and Rommel---were extremely competent and coldly professional.

Time is on our side. Far from being "fantasists posing a mortal danger" we Truthers see the bigger picture. The logical picture. The scientific picture. The historical picture. The overwhelming, incriminating, body-of-evidence picture. Far from embracing the 911 conspiracy as some sort of warm and fuzzy "security blanket," as suggested by a former TV producer, we prefer to be Diogenes with his lantern, Galileo with his telescope, Tom Paine with his Common Sense. Light years ahead of sunshine patriots.

Footnote: I spend a lot of time lately reading a website wholly devoted to 911. I follow the mostly intelligent remarks and the comments by the trolls. The grassroot Spirit of '76 is alive there at www.911blogger.com. If you haven't discovered it yet, go there for your "fantasist" fix. The only mortal danger is to the trolls and disinfo pros.

Novelist and amateur historian, Douglas Herman wrote the widely reposted "Confessions of A 911 Hitman" and contributes to Rense regularly.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Rense website is an excellent source of relevant info on the NWO. I highly recommend it. I go there daily along with What Really Happened.com Tis a pity we haven't got a British version of those two websites. I guess the Yanks are just better at doing stuff than us!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is what we all should be doing!..........

If you want your America back ( or Great Britain )

by Mr. Chuckles, Unknown News Feb. 22, 2007

Any government in the world can be brought down if a mere twenty
percent of the people will march in the streets and demand change. A majority is unnecessary. Eighty percent can sit home and do nothing if just twenty percent will march.

Votes mean almost nothing in this two party system. Both major parties are controlled, bought and paid for by lobbyists of corporations, the wealthy and foreign interests.

So, your party got fifty-one percent of the votes? That just means that it's your turn to be betrayed. It only means that the people you voted for get a chance to loot and mislead, while the people you voted against see their share of the loot diminished until it's their turn to 'lead' again.

The Democrats will not stop the Iraq War, or prevent the coming attack on Iran, unless tens of millions of Americans march in the streets.

We saw recently that when La Raza took to the streets -- although many Americans were outraged at the sight of all those Mexican flags, the politicians took serious notice. Now both parties are fighting for the Latino vote in November, 2008.

When tens of millions march to City Hall, and to the Governor's mansion, and to the White House, then the politicians will change, or be thrown out of office.

If tens of millions march on, say, this July 4th, then the Bush Regime will be removed from office and the war will end.

If you want your America back, we will have to take it ourselves -- in the streets, one block at a time. We'll have to shock and awe these cowardly little men who order soldiers to war, while hiding behind their desks and security guards.

These war criminals, these lying, deceiving, murdering thieves who * on our Constitution, who sent our soldiers to die for Exxon's oil, who stole our tax money, who sent our jobs overseas and rewarded the job-shipping





corporations with tax breaks, those people understand nothing but power and force.

Show it to them.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 1:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hitler thought violence was the answer. Saddam Hussein did too - and George Bush. When are people going to learn that progress comes through education and enlightenment. Getting the truth out is what matters and is what will bring the 9/11 murderers to justice. Passive resistance and civil disobedience yes - violence no!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They also understand getting hit in the pocketbook ---boycotting the corporations' products and services hits 'em where it hurts. They worship $$$.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go on then, you two. Off on your silly peace march. Another one! Who listens? If 50,000 turn up you will be extremely lucky and you might get a couple of inches in the middle pages of the yellow press.

Take a leaf out of the Sorus funded occupations of the city centres in Ukraine or look at what is not being reported in Lebanon. Take over the Square Mile, the City. Refuse to leave. Close it down. Camp out. Take the kids. Refuse to move for a couple of weeks.

Everything else is a waste of time.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Go on then, you two. Off on your silly peace march

Like Ghandi did?

When will I hear about your occupation of the square mile with your kalashnikov blazing? I prefer my silly walk to your silly talk.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good luck tomorrow. Who mentioned Kalashnakovs or violence? Shocked
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nobody mentiond violence but even peaceful protests are often infiltrated with plain clothes boys in blue throwing bottles etc.
It is often reported to be "an angry mob" despite it not being the case whatsoever. Or trapping people so they get angry. The big "dont attack Iraq" a few years ago, in London was amazing and could not be ignored.
I think peaceful protest is a great idea.
The thing to do is to publicise the event big time. Maybe this 9/11 is the key date? Or 7/7 in london. A massive one, get all the major groups coming.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldnt delete my post, so heres a random music video of peace. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7wEctHyuc0

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 6:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Who mentioned Kalashnakovs or violence?


You did Mick - or at least you posted the following:-

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If you want your America back, we will have to take it ourselves -- in the streets, one block at a time. We'll have to shock and awe


You also described a peace march as "silly". What then is the alternative?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like Jacob and probably most people on this forum, I was on the million strong march a few years back but we WERE ignored! The bombing began a week later. I have suggested an alternative. Do what they did in the so called Orange revolution. Just stay put.
Of course this won't work until the masses are really, I mean really, pissed off. What else will work?
Ghandi's method worked in India for a while but where else have his ideas worked?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

get on your bikes. protests on bikes are far more difficult to control. look at critical mass.

i think people under estimate the power of seemingly ineffective protests.
they certainly bring people together and generate a really positive energy. they raise awareness and give people from all over the country/world a chance to meet. there is a real sense of community which is sadly lacking today.

mass protests are a great place to talk to likeminded people and there is a really good atmosphere these days, with police smiling and having a laugh with protesters.

if you want to really hit them in their pockets then don't buy/use their dodgy household chemicals, by-products and brain poison (news/celebrity cutlure).
non-cooperation is also an effective form of protest.

if we could only get all groups annoyed with the system to protest together what a day that would be.

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

London Mick,
We were ignored but the protest certainly validated an opinion which may have otherwise been controversial or rebellious.
Didnt an anti war movement grow because of it?
It brought the issue to the fore and showed that people arent as apathetic as they thought.
Critical mass is a very good buzz Very Happy , I dont have a bike now though. Embarassed
The sad thing is, I think the university action groups are dwindling. They are more interested in happy hours and working in mobile phone call centres than they are at standing up for human rights.....

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 01, 2009 12:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackcat wrote:
Hitler thought violence was the answer. Saddam Hussein did too - and George Bush. When are people going to learn that progress comes through education and enlightenment. Getting the truth out is what matters and is what will bring the 9/11 murderers to justice. Passive resistance and civil disobedience yes - violence no!!!
But what if they attack first. I suppose if they do. We could throw 9/11 DVD's at them. Or even roll up leaflets and jab them in the eye. But as we stand now. I do agree with your sentiment Black Cat!
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 05, 2009 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When are people gonna learn that reading directly from the perps funster scripts gets us nowhere and makes us a laughing stock.

Let's start a revolution by swapping one fantasy for another and have tedious and pitiful debates about thermite and the melting point of steel for years and years and years. Yeah, let us do that.

Let's jump through hoops like trained and obedient poodles and stall the movement for a decade or two. Yeah, let's do that.
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