They might still be cached on your pc linda cos all im getting is "unavailable"
Dunno whats going on there but thats the joys of the net
They are all up and running, click on the http://youtube.com/watch?v=4q9ncm2jotI link under each image - people have added comments in the last day on each. _________________ I completely challenge the official version of events - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC -I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC - I AM NOT A 9/11 TRUTH CRITIC
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Posted: Tue Jul 15, 2008 9:40 pm Post subject:
Nice site, it's a pity that the links don't work. _________________ "Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish." - Euripides
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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 11:49 pm Post subject: Icke - an interesting (if not disheartening) conversation
I have just had a lengthy conversation with my mum about a David Icke lecture I watched recently, which consequently led into other areas such as 9/11, money etc.
The general jist of the in-depth conversation was Big Brother, the rapid approach of Fascism, One World Government etc, and what that could mean for us. To which she duly replied, 'Ah well, if that's what's happening, then it'll happen'.
I was truly shocked to be told that if I thought I could do something about it, then I was wrong and would be fighting a losing battle. No matter what avenue I took, no matter how much I tried to make it clear how much this would affect the people, I was told 'people have got too much on their mind to be worrying about this stuff'.
Truly dumbfounded, I could only ask her if in 20 years or so, the UK had become part of a fascist dictatorship, would she be able to look her grandchild in the eyes if he/she asked 'why didn't you stop it?' - to which I was met with a
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:13 am Post subject: Don't be discouraged...
Don't be disheartened, my 80 year old Mother, with whom I disagree about with almost any topic, just gives me the old "well, if you've nothing to hide then you've nothing to fear" tripe when broaching the subject of ID cards (let alone RFIDs etc etc). She thinks, for instance, that Condi Rice is an 'amazing' woman for being coloured and doing so much on the international stage. (I think she's a war criminal and should be tried as such, along with others of her ilk). It just shows the power of the mainstream media brainwashing.
Just move on, discuss these things with people who want to listen, don't be discouraged.
Truth, real democracy, peace and respect for others will prevail, but we've hard times ahead.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:49 am Post subject:
Have patience! When you're in your 80's you don't want to be confronted with this sort of thing all over again. Nothing changes - you've seen it all before.
But things have changed - radically.
When I discuss with elderly Germans they tell me "We didn't know". The whole thing just crept up on them. That's what's happening here. Most people just cannot believe it. Hence the ""
As regards not being able to change the world, who did change the world if it wasn't people like you and me? Is that what they told the soldiers in the World Wars? No, of course not. We can change the world if we believe we can do it.
A thousand soldiers taking one step forward is more effective than one general taking a thousand steps forward.
As a practical step, I would suggest the film 'ZERO: An investigation into 9/11". No conspiracy theories
the thing I don't want to think looking back in twenty years is "I didn't see it coming" or "I could have done more"...
A relief though is that the interest for 911, in particular, is HUGE. From experience in other political campaigning, I've never experienced interest like this when being out on the street campaigning -- no aggressiveness, lots of discussions etc..
Oh, maybe I shouldn't be too pessimistic, by the way: in twenty years, hopefully sooner, we'll perhaps have had a collapse of the 911 cover-up, a collapse of the US government, a hindering, exposure, of the next major false-flag catastrophe... etc..... _________________ www.globalresearch.ca www.fromthewilderness.com
Joined: 20 Feb 2007 Posts: 115 Location: Cardiff, Wales
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 12:45 pm Post subject:
Perhaps you're right, some people are simply 'too old' to be told what's happening and how much that differs from their idea of how the world works. Despite all it's possible interpretations, it makes me think that the film 'The Matrix' was made with this whole thing in mind - remember that they prefer to 'free people's minds' at a young age because the aged mind has become so accustomed to their own world-view that a radical truth is simply too much for them.
It's comforting to know that despite the apparent helplessness of some that people still believe with all their hearts that it's possible to change things around here.
By the way, how can I get hold of Zero - has it been released onto google video or anything??
Despite all it's possible interpretations, it makes me think that the film 'The Matrix' was made with this whole thing in mind - remember that they prefer to 'free people's minds' at a young age because the aged mind has become so accustomed to their own world-view that a radical truth is simply too much for them.
I agree absolutely with this interpretation.
Seeing this topic from another angle, think about the following:
An adult throws a ball in the air while a child watches. Suddenly the ball just stops in mid-air.
Who gets more surprised and why? And what is more desirable, to be surprised or not?
I don't know about UK distribution rights whilst it's going around the cinemas and possibly - just possibly - might be shown on TV if we can drum up enough support. See the ZERO thread in 'Events'.
Not my feelings, but the octogenerians I've spoken with. Those who have known of state intervention in their youth - perhaps in left wing or peace organisations - seem receptive. But I think those who haven't taken up a cause in the past may feel that they're not going to start now.
That's why I think it's important just to nudge people into taking the issue seriously rather than requiring them to become full-blooded activists.
AntonH:
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A relief though is that the interest for 911, in particular, is HUGE. From experience in other political campaigning, I've never experienced interest like this when being out on the street campaigning -- no aggressiveness, lots of discussions etc..
Absolutely. And that's not just in the UK. I spoke with people from all over the place at the Esperanto Congress in Rotterdam last month. I was amazed how general opinion had shifted.
9/11 is just the tip of the iceberg, of course. I've been the entire truth movement in a "tiny organisation that poses no threat to national security" (to use a phrase from David Shayler in describing MI5 infiltration for political purposes). It was just the same there. People were just incredulous, even though I could present facts and figures and produce minuted evidence etc etc. Because of the problems the association had hardly recruited for years, and so the remaining membership is now quite elderly.
Now, after two years of a "vicious and defamatory campaign" (to quote their own former solicitor) the membership is more convinced than ever that it doesn't understand what's going on in their own organisation. The president seems to have called the campaign off when I quoted their own former solicitor against them at the AGM. Having gone through that lot, I now find that people are now beginning to thank me
So by being firm and patient we can win through. We just haven't got twenty years though. Just look at the human rights issues from other threads: UN statement on UK; the film Taking Liberties; etc.
I think the film ZERO is really, really important. I contains no conspiracy theories and no-one, even in the mainstream press, will be able to argue with it.
Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 9:18 am Post subject: David Icke
He claimed he thought he was Jesus second coming on a BBC 1 or 2 Terry Wogan chat Show 1991-1992 when asked by Terry Wogan to explain his son of man spiritual awakening. It was prime time viewing at the time and a popular show as I recall. Many people must have seen it but probably didn't take much notice at the time. I distinctly remember Terry Wogan being very embarrassed. I think he is sincere but was set up by Intel, meeting many people that reinforced this as they also did with the alien agenda. I think he realised this and has carefully got around (covered up, "lied not so sincere") about these two issues.
This is a later UK TV Gold programme but unfortunately that part of his statement has been edited out.
I believe David was/is confused but he isn’t necessarily wrong in "all" his statement donein the correct way
Excerpt only
“Paul said, "It is NOT I That Lives"
It is not "I" that lives but Christ lives in me (Galatians 2:20). It is not "Self" that lives but "Christ" lives in me. It is not "Self" that lives but "The Anointed One" - the One whose head/mind is anointed with the "Oil of Understanding" - the oil that lubricates the "seized-up" mind and gets it working again, understanding the TRUTH or WORD of God.”
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Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:51 pm Post subject:
This is an inexplicable 'blip', Russell Brand is a dunder-headed bozo.
Represents in his very person all that is wrong with the present-day media.
Notwithstanding, here it is below with the sound on Google Video
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Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 1:17 am Post subject:
Hi Stephen,
I do not have any Interview links for you,but I think though he speaks a great deal of real truth,his "table analysis" is proposterous don't you think?
We'll just see if the powers that be delete this post too
Hi Stephen,
I do not have any Interview links for you,but I think though he speaks a great deal of real truth,his "table analysis" is proposterous don't you think?
We'll just see if the powers that be delete this post too
They would do if I posted Ickes Reps on the front headlines page, I might even get banned for just this post! Who knows?
David Icke is one person who needs no introduction. Strong feedback so far is that this may be the best interview of him yet done.
This is not an interview specifically about the information Icke has researched and presents so lucidly in his famous long presentations, and in his many books.
It's more about the man behind his mission; what makes him tick, and what keeps him going; the source of his inner resolve; and, notably - anyone who mistakes David Icke for a doomsayer, take note - his vision for Planet Earth: "The idea that this might not all have a successful outcome", he told us, "Never occurs to me."
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Posted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:50 pm Post subject:
That really is a very good interview, far above the quality of Icke's "standard message" interview that he gives the majority of the time, much less use of staple statements and some real pertinent relevant and timely observations and information _________________ Free your Self and Free the World
Back from the David Icke expose at
Wembley Arena London. If you can imagine 5000 David Icke fans all in
one building you may get an idea how populated it was. My wife and I
gathered at what we saw as the entrance to the building and started
handing out UK Columns to people moving to the queue. Me Shouting and
giving out Brian Gerrishs Newspaper out of Plymouth England to anyone
who would take one. We gave out several hundred until the string of
oncomers died down. Heavy security going in checking for
contraband...closed bottles, cameras, recording devices, umbrellas
and more. We were required to check all of them in to security. We
were told that a plastic bottle of coke with a top on would make a
good hard missle if thrown and could have the effect of a rock. Of
course you could buy all the coke in bottles you may want inside from
the vending machines at their prices.
David Icke was very convincing and
electric at times through out the presentation which started after
10am and ended around 10pm with 4 breaks. 3 camera shoot, one way in
back with a long telephoto lens, one on railroad tracks right in
front of the speaker going back and forth, and one on a 30 foot long
boom capable of going way up in the air …. over the crowd.... and
up close (Im going to have to get one of those). Professional sound
gear and security and ushers...the whole works. Huge crowds all
wanting refreshments during the breaks and long lines going into the
Toilets. Gareth Icke and band opened each set.
Mr Icke was in good form again and
one of the highlights of his presentation was him talking about
Agenda 21 for over an hour. ICLEI was mentioned too.
This is new information to many people. I am pleased he is
broadcasting this now as it is important information. This goes to
show that if we on the ground keep pounding away long enough the
issues we are trying to get out to the public will eventually be
picked up by people with a high profile. From my experiences in the
past … he does listen if you can get to him and he will check out
information that is given to him and if it checks out he will include
it in his presentations. The Archons possibly to blame, Saturn
symbols permeate our history, and Street Wise New Agers are a
necessity now and do not Hate....you will become what you fight. He
did a good job in showing how we all are programmed by society and
our true selves are suppressed by the system and each other. He
states that we have to get back to who we Truly Are … sentient
connected individuals who know right from wrong and are not fooled
easily and still have contact with the universal mind which knows and
sees the overall picture.
It all ended with “The Non
Conformist Dance” as he and several other young people got on stage
and danced to Irish music in celebration and joy of becoming free
from programming. The audience rose to their feet with arms waving
and clapping in time...what an event...what a celebration.
I am sure that conventional mass
media will write him and this event up as a gathering of nutters. In
doing so they will expose themselves once again as tools of
suppression. He gave an interview to some of the press during lunch
for a brief period and they went off not seeing his conclusions and
summation of how to fix the problems and probably their minds were
made up beforehand. Mr Icke approaches the problems we have now in is
own unique way..... as everyone should.
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:45 pm Post subject:
Always worth a listen to is Icke if only for picking up the latest nuggets of whats going on in the world. Seemed much like a party political broadcast on behalf of the Icke We are One Humanity Party. He has a swipe at people who prayer before slipping in his own spiritual ideas that we are gods in some great human self consciousness in contrast to a God consciousness. But truth is truth if its truth no matter where it comes from. So where you can- say Amen and where you cant say- thats bollox Icke. _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
haven't watched yet but Dancing Crowds to signify non-compliance made me giggle as he got them to comply but yes I will get around to watching it all hopefully _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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