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 Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 9:23 am Post subject: Mystery E4B Command plane over Washington |
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Mystery E4B Command plane over Washington on 9/11:
http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/?id=474
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Within that article...
| Quote: | | FLASH: Listen to Whitley Strieber's report on Flight 77 at the beginning of this program. It has just been revealed that the cockpit door on that plane was NEVER OPENED on that morning, meaning that hijackers never entered the cockpit of the plane that allegedly struck the Pentagon. |
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| Posted: Sat Dec 05, 2009 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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| scienceplease 2 wrote: | Within that article...
| Quote: | | FLASH: Listen to Whitley Strieber's report on Flight 77 at the beginning of this program. It has just been revealed that the cockpit door on that plane was NEVER OPENED on that morning, meaning that hijackers never entered the cockpit of the plane that allegedly struck the Pentagon. |
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Yes, but unfortunately that conclusion is in doubt, owing to possibility of that particular function of the recordings perhaps not being applicable to that aircraft, and basically it would show 'no opening' at all times, even if door was opened.
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| Posted: Sun Dec 06, 2009 12:48 am Post subject: |
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| outsider wrote: | | scienceplease 2 wrote: | Within that article...
| Quote: | | FLASH: Listen to Whitley Strieber's report on Flight 77 at the beginning of this program. It has just been revealed that the cockpit door on that plane was NEVER OPENED on that morning, meaning that hijackers never entered the cockpit of the plane that allegedly struck the Pentagon. |
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Yes, but unfortunately that conclusion is in doubt, owing to possibility of that particular function of the recordings perhaps not being applicable to that aircraft, and basically it would show 'no opening' at all times, even if door was opened. |
I agree wholeheartedly that there is huge doubt whether the sensor was installed or working on Flight 77. The point being is that it shouldn't be left up to the likes of us to do air crash analysis. The only four aircraft crashes not investigated by the NTSB in US history occurred on 9/11... You can got to their website where every other air crash has a crash report...
Personally I have doubts about the whole Flight 77 data set since the lack of black box type and serial number means that the providence of the data is in doubt.
http://www.911blogger.com/node/14081
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My analysis on the E4B and the transponder switch off can be found here, btw 
http://www.911forum.org.uk/board/viewtopic.php?t=18443 |
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scienceplease 2
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Yes. The article referenced by outsider then points to this interesting website:
http://the911mysteryplane.com/
This references a BBC documentary, Clear the Skies:
| Quote: | | ... part of the 2002 BBC production Clear the Skies, a British documentary which aired in the UK but to my knowledge has never been shown on US television. |
Anybody know about this? |
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| scienceplease 2 wrote: |
Yes. The article referenced by outsider then points to this interesting website:
http://the911mysteryplane.com/
This references a BBC documentary, Clear the Skies:
| Quote: | | ... part of the 2002 BBC production Clear the Skies, a British documentary which aired in the UK but to my knowledge has never been shown on US television. |
Anybody know about this? |
BBC 'Clear the Skies':
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/2222205.stm
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Thanks, outsider.
Even with four planes on "alert" (presumably armed) and assuming there was no way to expect or react to the first crash, may have missed the second crash, the third and fourth crash were easily within the capabilities of the USAF.
And, of course, there were many more fighters available on exercises. If Bush had bothered to organize a response rather than call for a press conference and 2 minutes silence at 9.24am (while there were still 3000+ people to be rescued) (oh and not been part of the plot) then again, at least 2 aircraft could have been intercepted.
And if the E4B and AWACS that were flying that day could also have been used to track the unidentified aircraft that had nicely turned off their transponders (to make them more visible to military radar operators), then again, at least 2 aircraft could have been intercepted.
Not to mention jets available from US Navy (as discussed by shoestring), US Marines, National Guard...
And, as I mention in the link above, Roland White states in his book Vulcan 607, that US air defences were pretty solid against unidentified aerial intruders by the mid-1970s. |
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Somewhere on this Forum recently was posted useful info about Congressional Air Charters, and thier Eddie Shalev giving glowing report of Hani Hanjour's flying aptitude (against a mile of counter reports, this was the one used by 9/11 Commission Report).
Well, though the firm has now folded, I found this little gem:
http://www.linkedin.com/pub/monty-lilley/7/477/b93
The owner, Monty Lilley:
'Station chief, Far East Ops
Aegis
(Defense & Space industry)
January 1975 — June 1995 (20 years 6 months)
Intelligence, anti-terrorist activities in the Far East primarily. Continues today on a specific contract basis'
(Grateful if anyone can link it to the other Forum thread, if they can find it).
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