Thoughts on PNAC's First Decade of the New American Century

[Mark Gobell]

Thoughts on PNAC's First Decade of the New American Century

As the decade draws to a close, what are your thoughts on the first 10 years of PNAC's wet dream, The New American Century?

[insidejob]

the aim wasn't to create a Pax Americana. The aim was to bankrupt the US to force it to join a world government.

The NWO knew that US citizens would dismiss the idea of world government on the basis that they don't need it because they are powerful. The means that particularly the team behind Reagan and the Bushes was to 'borrow and spend'. Reagan cut taxes and upped military expenditure. This increased the US government budget deficit. Bush Snr continued this. Clinton actually reversed their deficit by 'illegally' stealing money from the social security budget. Bush Jnr came in and spending went out of control. So, one reason for the Iraqi wars was to bankrupt the US.

And for PNAC to be realised, the US would have to spend billions on defence. Yet, for many in the military-industrial-intelligence complex, Pax Americana sounds good. The NWO can win people over on this basis. BUT, PNAC bankrupts the US.

[fish5133]

From a Christian faith perspective.The book of Revelation gives an indication of the NWO which will also include a religous element and a false peace. Obamas religous "credentials" (A sort of ecumenicalism-all faiths same all roads lead to heaven type of religion) seem to be paving the way for the anti-christ.
On the political stage it was PNAC that wants this "full spectrum domination"? i.e. US to be strongest power in 5 key areas. Quite possible that the NWO elite just using the superpowers to bring about their ultimate plans.
I tend to think that the NWO is an inevitable thing and the importance for individuals is to know how to be free men and women within a corrupt system--probaby much the same throughout the ages

[Andrew.]

I’m a believer in that this NWO unfortunately will get worse but will eventually come crashing down. Just like other empires Egypt, Babylon, Medes and Persians, Greece, Rome.

From a Christian faith perspective

This is a good read.

THE MASTER’S PLAN
‘When Thy Judgments are in the earth, the inhabitants
of the world will learn righteousness’ ISAIAH 26:9
by
ALBION S. GAUNT
(First published in 1968)

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On faith but not Christianity.

Galatians

1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)
1:2 And all the brethren which are with me, unto the communities of Galatia:
1:3 Grace [be] to you and peace from God the Father, and [from] our Lord Christ Jesus,
1:4 Who gave himself for our sins, that he might deliver us from this present evil world, according to the Will of God and our (adopted) Father:
1:5 To Whom [be] glory for ever and ever. Amen.
1:6 I marvel that ye are so soon removed from Him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel (christianity):
1:7 Which is not another (because they "call" it christianity); but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the [True] gospel of Christ.
1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you (to be "True to The Covenant" - "Covenanters"), let him be accursed.
1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
1:10 For do I now persuade men, or [does] God [through me]? Or do I seek to please men? For if I yet PLEASED men, I should NOT be the servant of Christ.




2 Corinthians
5:6 Therefore [we are] always confident, knowing that, whilst we [the Being] feel at home IN the body, we are absent from the Lord:
5:7 (For we walk by faith, not by sight:)
5:8 We are confident, [I say], and willing rather to be OUT OF the body, and to be present with the Lord.
5:9 Wherefore we labour, that, whether in [the body] or out [of the body], we may be accepted by Him.

[Frank Freedom]

From a common sense perspective it seems the master plan of the neo-cons was given us on a plate,most of us have the PNAC document downloaded!

I agree with insidejob's analysis, it does look like America has been set-up for this implosion a long time ago.Being the world's policeman for so long,and so obviously wrong and bloodthirsty with it, for all to see over the years.Sadly ironic saving the world from Soviet domination will result in global communism of the Third Way variety.

Am I mistaken

[blackbear]

The real reasons Bush went to war...?

WMD was the rationale for invading Iraq. But what was really driving the US were fears over oil and the future of the dollar....!

AlicetheKurious
One can choose to artificially view the 2003 invasion and occupation of Iraq in isolation, as though the previous American invasion and the subsequent 12 years of crippling sanctions are a completely separate subject, and that's the only way the "it's the DOLLAR!" argument makes sense.

Or, as I do, one can choose to view the entire sordid tale as one continuum, beginning with the Iran-Iraq war, followed by the deliberate provocations against Iraq by America's puppet Kuwaiti government, followed by Saddam Hussein asking for and being granted permission to invade Kuwait, followed by America's fake outrage and massive bombing of Iraq, followed by 12 years of hellish sanctions that killed at least 1.5 million Iraqis (a third of them children), followed by Iraq's decision to switch from US dollars to Euros in 1999, followed by the 2003 invasion and systematic destruction of Iraq as a nation.

Saddam Hussein's decision to switch currencies in 1999 does not explain why Kuwait was permitted to steal Iraqi oil and flood the market in the late 1980s, lowering oil prices just as Iraq was trying to rebuild its shattered economy after 10 years of a war with Iran supposedly on behalf of Kuwait, Saudi Arabia and the UAE, but in reality a war instigated and prolonged by the United States and Israel, who supplied weapons to both sides including chemical and biological weapons. It doesn't explain why America totally ignored Iraq's increasingly desperate complaints but gave Iraq the "green light" to invade Kuwait. It doesn't explain why, even after Iraq fully withdrew from Kuwait and cooperated with the UN weapons inspectors, the sadistic sanctions were not lifted.

In order to be valid, a hypothesis must make sense with regard to all the known facts, not just some artificially selected facts while those that don't fit are simply ignored.

Iraq was a client state of the U.S. Saddam Hussein was one of its most loyal and longstanding agents, a CIA "asset" since his student days who had a long history of doing exactly what his American handlers asked of him, even launching a very costly war of aggression against Iran that effectively neutralized that country for a decade after the Islamic revolution. Israel was very delighted with that war, and therefore found
Saddam Hussein useful as long as it continued. Once the war was over in
1989, the zionists' longstanding plans to eradicate Iraq were activated.

Israel got exactly what it wanted, at a debilitating cost to the United States and even greater cost to Iraq.

Wake the f*ck up.!

http://www.rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?p=306517&highlight =#306517

[Frank Freedom]

Nice c&p blackbear.Is there anything in there that contradicts what has already been said?
I think not.Israeli policy has been so exposed to the world.The question is what is the ultimate goal to eradicate the "warmongers"?

Get a grip bb

[Andrew.]

[Frank Freedom]

[Andrew.]

[scienceplease 2]

WSJ article

Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S.

Says us debt is a pyramid scam which will implode this year....

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html

[Frank Freedom]

[Andrew.]

[Frank Freedom]

Agreed,thus the confusion within this thread has been settled it seems.

Though no amount of prayer will rectify the problems as direct action is required,yes?

[Andrew.]

[Frank Freedom]

Have you had your way forward given you through the power of prayer Andrew? and what is religion if it's not organised to some extent?

[Andrew.]

[Frank Freedom]

I'm fairly well versed on common law thanks andrew.The question of the OP is what do you think of the PNAC neo-con aspirations as has been
quite clearly well shown in the last decade.A cunning plan exposed to most here undoubtedly.

Andrew,you haven't answered as to what religion you are endorsing here,if it's not mainstream what is it exactly?

[Andrew.]

[Frank Freedom]

[Andrew.]

[conspiracy analyst]

In order to resolve the unresolved crisis of global imperialism the transnationals that dominate the world economy became disconnected from the nation states. Hence the nation states lost revenue as a tax raising system to sustain their governments, their public sectors and their welfare payments.

The USA in the previous decade required the oil to sell to the rest of the world and the drugs to sustain the wars to be able to pay for it. Having failed to secure the oil and being unable to secure the drugs indefinitely they have now gone bankrupt.

The USA will begin to fragment and implode like the ex-USSR.

[Pugwash]