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PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2010 11:13 pm    Post subject: Three bodies identified in 'family tragedy' Reply with quote

hmmm

Police have released the names of three people whose bodies were found in what has been deemed a 'family tragedy'.
http://www.inthenews.co.uk/news/three-bodies-identified-in-family-trag edy--$1358157.htm
A post-mortem will be carried out on the bodies of mother Sue McFall, 56, and her 18-year-old daughter Francesca, who were found dead at their home in Oswestry on Friday.
A body which was later found is believed to be that of Hugh McFall, Francesca's father and Mrs McFall's husband. Police are treating the two women's deaths as murder and Mr McFall's as suicide, and are not looking for anyone else in relation to the incident. Some reports have speculated Mr McFall murdered his wife and daughter before killing himself.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This was of particular concern to me as I recently had counselling dealings involving a love triangle in Oswestry and was relieved to find it was totally unrelated.

I was surprised at the quick announcement noone else was being sought for the deaths. Now we know the police are closer to the incident and see more of the evidence but the causes of death had not fully been established by post mortem and considering at least one of the deaths had to be a suicide then i was quite surprised.
The neighbours gave character witness that the husband was a loving devoted man and sound as a pound and that something must have caused him to flip.

similar to the evnt not too far away of the man who killed his wife daughter, al his animals and torched himself and his house. He had links to oil pipeline work in Iraq.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Still seems very strange especially following the almost copy cat murders just few miles away


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Scores of tributes have been left at the McFall home in Hampton Road, Oswestry

A man believed to have killed his wife and daughter then taken his own life was a doting father who would “go red if you swore in front of him”, a family friend has said.

Graeme Robson, 45, spoke after attending prayers in Oswestry for the McFall family.

Speaking outside St Oswald’s, where special prayers were held ahead of the usual service, Mr Robson dismissed rumours of financial problems that may have driven Mr McFall to kill his family.

He said he went out with Nicola Gilham, Mrs McFall’s daughter from a previous marriage, for around three years until they broke up two years ago.

He said: “I lost my mum and my dad moved to Spain so they basically became my family.

“I was close to Sue, Frankie and Hugh. They were like my family for the best part of three years.”

He said he had seen Frankie only last week when she had offered to buy him a drink last night to celebrate his birthday.

“She said, ‘I’ll see you on Saturday and buy you a drink’,” Mr Robson - who turned 45 last week - said.

“I don’t relate any of what has happened to Hugh as a father.

“He doted on Frankie beyond belief, she was a very clever girl, a very pretty girl.

“He would do anything for her. I think that’s the hardest part.

“He was very close to Nicola his step-daughter as well. He was just a really, really genuine bloke.

“If you swore in front of him he would go red. Anybody walking out of that church today would be thinking why or how.”

Mr Robson said he had not spoken to any family members since the shocking deaths but said the rumours of financial problems did not “ring true” to him.

“Two years ago before I split up with Nicola, they had literally no mortgage on the house and were thinking of moving.

“They got the house valued and it was worth about £300,000, I think.

“The debt thing just doesn’t ring true with me. They never wanted for anything, they didn’t struggle.

“They were very, very family orientated, all the money he spent was in the house.

“In my mind it doesn’t make sense, he wasn’t over-exuberant. He always looked after them.”

Mr Robson said Mr and Mrs McFall seemed “really happy”.

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PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The official explanation. But how did the police know it was Mr Mcfall phoning?

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Florist who hanged himself after killing his wife and head-girl daughter was crippled by debts
By Liz Hull, Fay Schlesinger and James Tozer
Last updated at 1:04 PM on 06th February 2010

The businessman who took his own life yesterday after murdering his wife and teenage daughter was heavily in debt, it emerged today.

Wholesale florist Hugh McFall, 48, called police to confess to killing Sue, 55, and Francesca, 18, and then hanged himself in his office.

Detectives believe the mild-mannered family man snapped as he struggled to cope with spiralling debts.

Francesca, who was an only child and former head girl, updated her Facebook pages at 10.16pm on Thursday, a few hours before her death.
Hugh McFall with his daughter Francesca McFall and wife Susan McFall. Police have said they are not looking for anyone else in connection with the deaths

In her last post she said she was 'buzzing' and looking forward to attending a Valentine's ball at £12,000-a-year Oswestry School in Shropshire with her boyfriend, Max Payne.

The event has been cancelled in the wake of the tragedy.


Friends and relatives were baffled as to what could have happened to lead to the destruction of such an outwardly happy family.

However there were reports that Mr McFall's wholesale flower business was crippled with mounting debts. Neighbours said they had 'heard whispers' that the firm was in trouble, according to The Sun.
Mr McFall is thought to have hidden his money worries from his wife and daughter and recently took them on two expensive holidays - in New York and skiing in Switzerland - spending thousands on credit cards.
Last night his sister Claire Rheade said: 'It's unbelievable - he doted on his family, he would never harm them.
'He was a gentle man who wouldn't hurt a fly.'

Max, 17, said he was devastated to lose his girlfriend, who went by the name of Frankie and hoped to be a doctor.

Devoted: Friends of the McFall couple were shocked to hear of their deaths saying they were a close knit family
'She was a bright and beautiful girl who was always full of fun,' he said.
'I am just lost for words - we were supposed to be going to the school ball, along with many other friends that she made during her short time there.

'Frankie and I never had any discussions about her home life that would indicate she
had anything other than a great relationship with her mother and father. We were great friends and I will miss her so much.'
Her body and that of her mother were found by police at the family's £300,000 four-bedroom detached house in Oswestry. It is not known how they died.

Armed officers then converged on the village of St Martins, six miles away, where McFall had an industrial lock-up for his wholesale florist business. They found his body in his office.

Everything to live for: Francesca had ambitions to become a doctor and was planning to volunteer in hospitals in Nepal
James Bond, a close friend who lived next door, said the noise of police looking for McFall woke him at 5am yesterday.
'A policewoman came to the door and said there were two bodies next door and asked us if we could tell them anything about the family living there because they were desperate to contact the husband,' he said.

'Later we heard the very tragic news that his body had been discovered at the lock-up.

'I was absolutely stunned. They were a lovely family, very close knit. They had just come back from a family holiday in New York, where they had had the time of their lives.

'Poor Hugh must have been beside himself, there's no way he could have done something like this unless he was out of his mind.'
Other friends said the couple, who had been married for around 20 years, were devoted to each other.

Mrs McFall had two grown-up children, Nicola and Daniel Gillham, from a previous marriage. Nicola, 29, is a teacher at The Marches School in Oswestry, where Francesca was head girl before moving to Oswestry School.

She had given up her bank job to help her husband's business, Growing Places, which supplied flowers and plants to supermarkets and nurseries.

Peter Barker, who owned a motor garage next door to McFall's lockup, said the businessman's Land Rover Discovery was parked outside when he arrived for work at 8am yesterday.
'Hugh didn't have a key for the gates to the units but his car was parked outside, so it looks like he jumped over the railings to get into his office,' he said.

'Armed police arrived here at about 8.45am, then an officer came out having found the body saying: "He's not going to hurt anyone else now".'
(Presume thats based on the phone call the police received otherwise proven guilty before innocent)


Alwyn Thomas, 49, who grew up with McFall, said McFall's parents had moved in the 1960s from Liverpool to Weston Rhyn, near Oswestry on the Welsh border.

'Hugh was a family man, very hard working,' he said. 'He and Sue were a nice couple, very well suited.

'Hugh was a happy person, he never looked like someone who had any worries. He must have flipped to do this.'

Last night, friends paid tribute to Francesca on her site on Facebook.

Joe Croxon said: 'The world has lost someone special today. I just don't get it. She was so nice and sweet and honest. There was nothing bad in her at all.'

It is understood that the teenager was planning to work as a volunteer in hospitals in Nepal on a gap year after her A-levels.

Last night, a family member at the home of Helen Molesworth, McFall's sister, said they were too upset to comment.

Detective Inspector Mick Homden, who is leading the investigation for West Mercia Police, said they were not looking for anyone else over the deaths.

Fifteen months ago, Christopher Foster murdered his wife, Jillian, and teenage daughter, Kirstie, at their luxury mansion in Oswestry before killing himself.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1248717/Bodies-women-discovere d-Oswestry-spark-murder-probe.html

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