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'Apparent' bombers: Is Hugo Keith, QC, not convinced?

 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: 'Apparent' bombers: Is Hugo Keith, QC, not convinced? Reply with quote

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/8537534.stm


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Families of 7/7 victims have expressed fury after the suicide attackers were called "apparent bombers" in court.

The hearing, at the Royal Courts of Justice, was to decide how coroners' inquests into deaths from the 2005 Tube and bus bombings should proceed.

But bereaved relations took offence when Hugo Keith QC used the phrase "apparent" to describe the attackers. He later apologised for the distress.

Ernest Adams, whose son was killed, said it was "upsetting and insulting".

James Adams, 32, a mortgage broker from Cambridgeshire, was among 26 killed by Jermaine Lindsay, 19, on a Tube between King's Cross and Russell Square.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 9:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Anger over 7/7 London terror attacks inquest 'insult'

Families of 7/7 victims have expressed fury after the suicide attackers were called "apparent bombers" in court.

The hearing, at the Royal Courts of Justice, was to decide how coroners' inquests into deaths from the 2005 Tube and bus bombings should proceed.

But bereaved relations took offence when Hugo Keith QC used the phrase "apparent" to describe the attackers. He later apologised for the distress.

Ernest Adams, whose son was killed, said it was "upsetting and insulting".

James Adams, 32, a mortgage broker from Cambridgeshire, was among 26 killed by Jermaine Lindsay, 19, on a Tube between King's Cross and Russell Square.

'Apparent bombers' just does not rest easily with me

Hazel Webb, bereaved mother
His father Mr Adams, 72, stood up in court and said: "For more than four-and-a-half years, the whole world has known that four sick and evil men killed 52 innocent people.

"And yet now lawyers are talking and writing about 'apparent bombers'."
"Your inquest is not going to be about 52 apparent deaths, it will be about 52 real deaths caused by four real bombers.

"I find it very upsetting and insulting to use the word 'apparent'."

Hazel Webb, whose 29-year-old daughter Laura, of Islington, north London, was one of six people killed at Edgware Road, agreed.

Apologising, Mr Keith said: "I must balance that which may seem to be obvious with not wishing to pre-judge the issues.
"We are acutely aware that this raises terrible issues for the bereaved families."

The coroner, Lady Justice Hallett, repeated the apology and said they would come up with another term that would not cause distress.

Suicide bombers Mohammad Sidique Khan, Shehzad Tanweer, Hasib Hussain and Jermaine Lindsay detonated the bombs on three Tube trains and a bus during the morning rush-hour on 7 July 2005, killing 52 people and injuring more than 700.





Main Entry: ap·par·ent
Pronunciation: \ə-ˈper-ənt, -ˈpa-rənt\
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Anglo-French apparant, from Latin apparent-, apparens, present participle of apparēre to appear
Date: 14th century

1 : open to view : visible
2 : clear or manifest to the understanding <reasons that are readily apparent>
3 : appearing as actual to the eye or mind


Some Inquest

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The people should all know and be enforcing the Law themselves; the police (peelers) and government are thus stopping this.

No moral values, and Laws learned or taught.

Have we been dumbed down over the years?
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:11 am    Post subject: "Apparent bombers", set up Reply with quote

I suspect that the parent was encouraged to make the complaint and the lawyer encouraged to use the term "apparent".

An inquest could touch on the evidence that the 4 were responsible. The PTB, though, want to divert public attention away from any of this and away from any proper investigation into their guilt, so they want to reinforce in the minds of the public that there is no question about their guilt. Yet, there has been no legal process that have found them guilty of anything.

Question is why did the lawyer use the term "apparent"? A more legally appropriate term would be "accused".
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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whatever happened to innocent till proven guilty


These are worth watching fish.



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