Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:19 pm Post subject:
Commenting seems to be causing the site problems.
Photos dont add anything to the Official Conspiracy Theory. None here of Building 7 collapsing. Perhaps they dont want those published too widely. The publication will just help to keep the 9/11 OBL, Afghanistan/Iraq Myth and make Bliar feel justified for his actions _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
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Posted: Wed Feb 10, 2010 8:22 pm Post subject:
This was even shown on Channel 5 News at 5!
First thought was they are showing pics of those huge dust clouds.
Without the full-on emotional context of that time in 2001,surely quite a few people looking now might begin to have doubts about the "collapse" of the 3 buildings scenario? _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
Daily Mail comments, an excellent example of censorship. No way to cycle through comments? :0
Well was I suprised hell no!! lol _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
1 in a horizontal line around the building
2 in a small corner, ten stories above. In between no fire...
The fire modeling would be interesting. How did the fire spread in that rather strange pattern?
Using an "Inside Job" lens - perhaps the fires in those positions were planned...
This isn't promoted for us sp2,this is for the general "they wouldn't do that to us" public.So why now? As I implied earlier, it may be part of the slow controlled release of some of the truth will inevitably come out to get the people to demand change.
That's my take on it anyway. _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
Amazing how these police choppers took such high quality photographs of real events in real landscapes whilst the surviving video footage is so ropey, indistinct and changeable _________________ http://www.exopolitics-leeds.co.uk/introduction
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Posted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 8:48 pm Post subject:
New picture releases are shedding light on September 11th, some say they prove that the assault on America proves a homegrown attack. The new photos are provided by US national institute of standards and technology. There are over 2,000 new photos that have been made public. Manny Badillo says that you see an explosion from the inside, not what it has seemed to be, he says there has never been a building taken down by a plane.
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From: Andrew Johnson [mailto:ad.johnson@ntlworld.com]
Sent: 12 February 2010 09:18
Subject: FW: Daily Mail Censors factual comments on the Photos
I posted a comment mentioning I'd been giving out a video showing these photos (and I mentioned nothing else) and this was approved. Another comment mentioning the Qui Tam case and Judy's name was not approved (presumably it would implicate the Daily mail in not doing any research and being part of the cover up)
Below is Pat Rattigan's experience. As a reminder for the type of people we are dealing with in the media, I present other evidence below that.
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Sent: 12 February 2010 08:37
To: HERA
Subject: Please forward - Daily Mail ordered to remove factual post on Mail web site
The, verifiable, facts are
The twin towers - 220 storeys, 1 million tons steel/concrete total - were turned mainly into dust in a destructive process which took 9 plus 11 seconds.
No trace of any aircraft was found at the site, nor at The Pentagon nor in Shanksville Pa.
The damage to The Pentagon was consistent with that caused by a cruise missile.
Larry Silversteen, owner of the lease for WTC7, stated that the decision was made to "pull" the building : it came down in a controlled, pre-planned demolition in 7 seconds.
The BBC announced the destruction of WTC7, whilst the building was behind the reporter as she spoke : the BBC read the script 23 minutes early.
It is scientifically impossible for a steel-framed building - office block, garden shed, doll's house to be destroyed by fire.
The computer graphics (hijacked aeroplanes) were of such poor quality that the US TV compaies who made them were ordered not to repeat the TV footage after Sep. 11.
The comments contravened no "house rules" : the level of accuracy, grammar, spelling, politeness etc. of the other posts can be viewed at
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Yes, the way these images have been "released" is puzzling - probably another psy-op underway.
All UK media have been sent copies of the press releases I have written since Sept 2007 - no one has ever replied to them with anything of any interest or chosen to take up the story.
In 2007, I was ridiculed by another Daily telegraph reporter and misrepresented in his story in relation to my pointing out they had no evidence that the "shampoo bombers" were guilty (they were later exonerated).
a news paper editor wrote back to me to say "f*ck off you sad little loser", but was unable to point out any flaws in the evidence.
It seems these people, like Jim Fetzer and Ace Baker, do not have a soul and they simply cannot be trusted to "do the right thing" with important information. Again, that view was supported in 2008 by our interaction with a certain Mike Rudin of the BBC:
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 2:13 pm Post subject:
@ AJ: 'The twin towers - 220 storeys, 1 million tons steel/concrete total - were turned mainly into dust in a destructive process which took 9 plus 11 seconds'
Well, not exactly; nor was it 'beamed up' (Scotty was off sick at the time).
A great many truckloads of steel were not 'vaporised' but shipped off to China. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Not sure if that helps. Do we know that the steel was shipped to China? It would be intersting to know it's new application. All I saw on the back of the trucks from common images appeared to be rubble. Maybe all the steel was shipped off at the dead of night.
Anyone know why soil or something of the like was trucked in to Ground Zero? I may be wrong, but it looks like various or all areas were sprinked with the stuff. It was a bit early for the construction of a memorial garden. I dare say it's been mulled over before but worth thiking about.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 8:57 pm Post subject:
Daniel Elliott wrote:
Outsider,
Not sure if that helps. Do we know that the steel was shipped to China? It would be intersting to know it's new application. All I saw on the back of the trucks from common images appeared to be rubble. Maybe all the steel was shipped off at the dead of night.
Anyone know why soil or something of the like was trucked in to Ground Zero? I may be wrong, but it looks like various or all areas were sprinked with the stuff. It was a bit early for the construction of a memorial garden. I dare say it's been mulled over before but worth thiking about.
Whilst I cannot provide you with evidence, I thought this was a well-established fact.
I understand that various departments of Government made their perplexity and disgust at evidence being shipped out (ie 'suppressed'), but were ignored, and/or overuled.
Can other posters help on this issue, please? _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 413 Location: South Essex
Posted: Mon Feb 15, 2010 9:08 pm Post subject:
Daniel Elliott wrote:
Outsider,
Not sure if that helps. Do we know that the steel was shipped to China? It would be intersting to know it's new application. All I saw on the back of the trucks from common images appeared to be rubble. Maybe all the steel was shipped off at the dead of night.
Anyone know why soil or something of the like was trucked in to Ground Zero? I may be wrong, but it looks like various or all areas were sprinked with the stuff. It was a bit early for the construction of a memorial garden. I dare say it's been mulled over before but worth thiking about.
Good question.According to David Ray Griffin who has often said the steel was conveniently cut into 30 foot pieces,names Jim Hoffman as the source of this statement(pages 300-301 notes in DRG's Omissions and Distortions).Maybe someone can find the source to the "shipped to China"
reference? _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 413 Location: South Essex
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:43 pm Post subject:
Surprised no one has found a clear link to the "shipped to China" reference by now,or do we just take things as read? _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
hmm shipping logs would be good, unless someone put the file back on the wrong shelf _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 5:31 pm Post subject:
Demolition Inc should know as they were the ones given the clear up contract wernt they?
Impressive CV
Quote:
A two thousand ton skyscraper collapses like a house of cards, crumbling in on itself - a waterfall of well-fractured steel and concrete debris. It lasts only seconds, and buildings within a few meters stand untouched. The very essence of Controlled Demolition, Inc. is in our name: CONTROL.
CDI demolishes structures with the kind of precision and planning usually associated with their creation
http://www.controlled-demolition.com/services-forensic-investigation _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 6:25 pm Post subject:
Well done, D_D; perhaps FF might be better employed questioning the NY Port Authorities?
(I have edited this post as I have been slagging F_F off and realise I have misjudged his motives. Sorry, F_F). _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 413 Location: South Essex
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 7:27 pm Post subject:
outsider wrote:
Well done, D_D; perhaps FF might be better employed questioning the NY Port Authorities? But then again, of course, his paymasters might object, apart from ignoring his 'requests for info' and putting out a contract on him fior 'taking the NWO shilling' and backtracking.
jeez outsider, didn't I put a couple of links up a while back?
And tell me,if anyone disagrees with any analysis promoted,does that automatically make them a paid, or otherwise shill?
This is my myspace site where I admitedly don't go very often:
I suppose I won't get a good old fashioned christian apology,but I may get suspended again for disagreeing with the truth establishment. _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 8:13 pm Post subject:
Frank Freedom wrote:
outsider wrote:
Well done, D_D; perhaps FF might be better employed questioning the NY Port Authorities? But then again, of course, his paymasters might object, apart from ignoring his 'requests for info' and putting out a contract on him fior 'taking the NWO shilling' and backtracking.
jeez outsider, didn't I put a couple of links up a while back?
And tell me,if anyone disagrees with any analysis promoted,does that automatically make them a paid, or otherwise shill?
This is my myspace site where I admitedly don't go very often:
I suppose I won't get a good old fashioned christian apology,but I may get suspended again for disagreeing with the truth establishment.
How on earth anyone could, in good faith, question that a crime scene was not preserved (a criminal offence), and that the vast majority of the steel structure was not shipped off to Asia (despite protests at the time), is in my view impossible.
I would happily offer an apology if I thought I had misjudged you, but it is painfully obvious that the steel was shipped out, to prevent analysis of it (which, in my, and 1,000 architects and engineers, and countless other 'Truthers' opinions, would show the evidence of thermitic melting).
A truck driver was even sacked for taking an extended lunch break (the trucks had been fitted with tracking devices; after all, these were highly valuable cargo the trucks were carrying; they could have paved the way for treason trials of the mass murderers of the NWO).
Not your ordinary 'run-of-the-mill' scrap iron. And not a low-level decision to completely disregard all precedents and complaints, and to violate a crime scene and destroy (or in this case, dispose of, the evidence).
But, in fairness, I will admit Larry Silverstein, Chertoff, 'Lon' Cheney & Co Inc would agree with your assessment. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 413 Location: South Essex
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 9:00 pm Post subject:
outsider wrote:
Frank Freedom wrote:
outsider wrote:
Well done, D_D; perhaps FF might be better employed questioning the NY Port Authorities? But then again, of course, his paymasters might object, apart from ignoring his 'requests for info' and putting out a contract on him fior 'taking the NWO shilling' and backtracking.
jeez outsider, didn't I put a couple of links up a while back?
And tell me,if anyone disagrees with any analysis promoted,does that automatically make them a paid, or otherwise shill?
This is my myspace site where I admitedly don't go very often:
I suppose I won't get a good old fashioned christian apology,but I may get suspended again for disagreeing with the truth establishment.
How on earth anyone could, in good faith, question that a crime scene was not preserved (a criminal offence), and that the vast majority of the steel structure was not shipped off to Asia (despite protests at the time), is in my view impossible.
I would happily offer an apology if I thought I had misjudged you, but it is painfully obvious that the steel was shipped out, to prevent analysis of it (which, in my, and 1,000 architects and engineers, and countless other 'Truthers' opinions, would show the evidence of thermitic melting).
A truck driver was even sacked for taking an extended lunch break (the trucks had been fitted with tracking devices; after all, these were highly valuable cargo the trucks were carrying; they could have paved the way for treason trials of the mass murderers of the NWO).
Not your ordinary 'run-of-the-mill' scrap iron. And not a low-level decision to completely disregard all precedents and complaints, and to violate a crime scene and destroy (or in this case, dispose of, the evidence).
But, in fairness, I will admit Larry Silverstein, Chertoff, 'Lon' Cheney & Co Inc would agree with your assessment.
Oh the hysteria where did I say the crimescene was not tampered with?
The question is/was,is there actual proof of the steel structure being shipped off to China and India,apart from the say so of a few people.
DD has replied to that now,so I'll have a closer look later on thanks. _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
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