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When the anthrax attack happened, media said a high school student could produce it. Only when scientist proved it was a military grade bio weapon, then they had to find a scapegoat - Ivins and made him a dead one. A dead man could never defend himself.
Now how will they explain the military grade nano-thermite?
, | Quote: | "The Media Response to the Growing Influence of the 9/11 Truth Movement.
Part II: A Survey of Attitude Change in 2009-2010
by Elizabeth Woodworth
Global Research, February 15, 2010
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=17624&context=va
Abstract
In the past year, in response to emerging independent science on the 9/11 attacks, nine corporate, seven public, and two independent media outlets aired analytic programs investigating the official account.
Increasingly, the issue is treated as a scientific controversy worthy of debate, rather than as a "conspiracy theory" ignoring science and common sense.
This essay presents these media analyses in the form of 18 case studies.
Eight countries – Britain, Canada, Denmark, France, the Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway and Russia – have allowed their publicly-owned broadcasting stations to air the full spectrum of evidence challenging the truth of the official account of 9/11.
This more open approach taken in the international media – I could also have included the Japanese media – might be a sign that worldwide public and corporate media organizations are positioning themselves, and preparing their audiences, for a possible revelation of the truth of the claim that forces within the US government were complicit in the attacks – a revelation that would call into question the publicly given rationale for the military operations in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.
The evidence now being explored in the international media may pave the way for the US media to take an in-depth look at the implications of what is now known about 9/11, and to re-examine the country's foreign and domestic policies in the light of this knowledge.
I. Introduction
Until 2009, doubts about the official 9/11 story were briefly entertained by the mainstream media on each anniversary of the event, allowing the independent research community only a fleeting moment once a year to publicly voice its findings.
But after crucial scientific evidence emerged in April 2009 to challenge the official story of how the towers fell, a spate of European media reports followed. The news coverage of this evidence seems to have opened the door to more serious reflection on all aspects of the 9/11 issue in the major media.
The first paper in my series, "The Media Response to 9/11," dealt with the New Statesman's grudging recognition of Dr. David Ray Griffin, the world's "top truther" (as it dubbed him), placing him number 41 among "The 50 People Who Matter Today."1 Since this admission in September 2009, the issue has gathered increasing momentum.
The collective content issuing from this new momentum is presented here in the hope that it will embolden other major media to take up the pivotal controversy concerning 9/11, and pursuing the truth wherever it may lead.
Observations on the Analysis
While carrying out my analysis, I observed five new features in the media treatment of the 9/11 issue that developed as 2009 progressed. They are listed here, so that readers might look for them in the case studies that follow below:
1. The 9/11 issue is increasingly framed not as conspiracy theories versus hard science, but as a legitimate controversy resting on unanswered questions and a search for truth.
2. News reports and television programs examining these controversies have become longer and more balanced.
3. Major media outlets have begun to present the claims of the truth movement first, followed by counter-arguments from defenders of the official story.
4. Major media outlets have begun to include, and even to introduce, extensive evidence to support the claims of the 9/11 truth community.
5. The media treatments increasingly suggest the possibility of a re-investigation into the events of September 11, 2001.
The first part of this essay deals with the crucial scientific evidence that emerged in early 2009, the significance of this evidence in relation to the official story of 9/11, and the immediate news coverage it received.
II. Scientific Paper Finds Nano-thermite Explosives in World Trade Center Dust, April 3, 2009
A peer-reviewed paper published in the Open Chemical Physics Journal on April 3, 2009,2 reported that a little known high-tech explosive called nano-thermite was found throughout the World Trade Center dust.
These physicists and chemists involved in this study discovered "distinctive red/gray chips in significant numbers"3 in four samples of dust collected from the area. The presence of aluminum and iron oxide in the red material provided one of the signs that it might be nano-thermite, which is a high explosive (whereas ordinary thermite is an incendiary.)
Another clue was provided when putting a flame to the chips produced an explosive reaction.
On the basis of these and other observations, the team concluded that "the red layer of the red/gray chips we have discovered in the WTC dust is active, unreacted thermitic material, incorporating nanotechnology, and is a highly energetic pyrotechnic or explosive material."4
The article's first-named author, Dr. Niels Harrit – a University of Copenhagen chemistry professor who specializes in nano-chemistry5 –explained on Danish TV2 News:
"Thermite itself dates back to 1893. It is a mixture of aluminum and rust-powder, which react to create intense heat. The reaction produces iron, heated to 2500 degrees Centigrade. This can be used to do welding. It can also be used to melt other iron.
"So in nano-thermite, this powder from 1893 is reduced to tiny particles, perfectly mixed. When these react, the intense heat develops much more quickly. Nano-thermite can be mixed with additives to give off intense heat, or serve as a very effective explosive. It contains more energy than dynamite, and can be used as rocket fuel.
"You cannot fudge this kind of science. We have found it: unreacted thermite."6
What was the significance of this sophisticated material?
Reported Evidence that Nano-thermite is a Military Substance
In a German interview in May 2009, Dr. Harrit said: "There are no experts on nano-thermite without connections to the military…. This stuff has only been prepared under military contracts in the USA and probably in bigger allied countries. This is secret military research…It was not prepared in a cave in Afghanistan."7
Chemist Kevin Ryan, another co-author, had reported in an earlier article that explosive nano-thermite, which may be painted onto surfaces, was developed by US government scientists at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratories.8
A United States Department of Defense special publication confirms that work on these "energetic materials" has long been "performed in laboratories within all military services."9
According to a June 2009 statement by Britain's prestigious Institute of Nanotechnology,10 the Harrit study "provides indisputable evidence that a highly engineered explosive called nano-thermite was found in the dust of all three buildings that came down on 9/11 2001 in New York city. [sic] This advanced explosive incorporating nanotechnology is only available to sophisticated military labs."11
It thus became known by mid-2009 that explosives of military origin, probably in the United States, had been involved in the World Trade Center collapses.
Early Coverage of the Nano-thermite Finding in the European Mainstream Press
Although the new scientific evidence against the official story of 9/11 was not reported in the mainstream British or North American media, it did receive attention in continental Europe.
The day the article was published, a thorough essay in the Danish journal Videnskab (Science) examined both sides of the controversy about controlled demolition.12
The same issue of Videnskab also carried an interview with Professor Harrit, who answered pointed questions about the peer-review history of the article, and the military nature of nano-thermite.13
The following day, Denmark's politiken.dk reported the scientific nano-thermite paper in an article called (in Danish) "Conspiracy theories about 9/11 get new life."14
Then, the day after Professor Harrit's April 6 interview Danish TV2 News, he was featured on the popular talk show, "Good Morning Denmark", on which he said:
"The material we found is super hi-tech frontline military research. It's not a mixture of random chemicals. It's an advanced material which is difficult to get information on. But some conference papers and internal reports have been published…There has to be a normal forensic investigation of this attempt. Our research is high-level forensic work. We have provided technical evidence that can be used in the future investigation."15
On April 13, an online Croatian political newspaper posted the Danish TV2 video interview with Harrit along with an article titled "VIDEO: 9/11 No Longer Taboo Topic in Denmark".16
Russia also took notice. On July 9, Laura Emmett, the London correspondent for RT, interviewed Dr. Niels Harrit for over 10 minutes. (RT, previously known as Russia Today, is a globally broadcast English-language channel sponsored by the state-owned news agency RIA Novosti. It reaches 1.5 million people monthly, including half a million Americans.) Stating that "the evidence for controlled demolition is overwhelming", Harrit reported that the nano-thermite reaction produced pools of molten iron beneath the rubble and inextinguishable fires that lasted for months.17
I turn now to ways that the mainstream news coverage of the case against the official story has changed since the appearance of the nano-thermite paper.
III. The Changing Mainstream Media Treatment of 9/11 Evidence from early 2009 to early 2010: 18 Case Studies
Two February 2009 news items illustrate the wary mainstream attitude towards conspiracy theorists early in the year. A New York Times article said about actor Daniel Sunjata:
The second episode of "Rescue Me's" fifth season, starting in April, may represent the first fictional presentation of 9/11 conspiracy theories by a mainstream media company…Mr. Sunjata's character delivers a two-minute monologue…describing a "neoconservative government effort" to control the world's oil, drastically increase military spending and "change the definition of pre-emptive attack."
Mr. Sunjata surprised some of the TV reporters when he said that he "absolutely, 100 percent" supports the assertion that "9/11 was an inside job."18
Fox News was somewhat less constrained, saying:
An upcoming episode of the drama "Rescue Me" is about 9/11 being an inside job. The actor who spews the theories on camera, Daniel Sunjata, actually believes in it too.
Look, the fact is, actors who barf this nonsense are doing it for their own egos. It makes them feel smart, because for once they're spouting something provocative instead of puerile. Never mind that it's an insidious insult to the victims of 9/11 – as it is to the rest of us, who may or may not be guilty, according to Sunjata's theory.19
However, things started to change after the appearance of the nano-thermite paper on April 3, as may be seen from the following case studies of media reports, each of which is identified as having corporate, public, or independent ownership.
The case studies reveal the evidence which has been introduced into public consciousness during the past year. |
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| Posted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:19 am Post subject: Who were the Nanothermite terrorists? |
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It all seems to boil down to this very question: Who were the terrorists who ordered, produced, ordered the placement of and placed the deadly explosive Nano-Thermite that brought down the World Trade Center skyscrapers on Manhattan on 9/11?
Well, one man - maybe the man who's been looking more into this than any other, is Christopher Bollyn. In fact, for the book he has written - «Solving 9/11» - which I've translated into the Norwegian e-book «9/11-koden» - Bollyn has announced many months ago that there will be a 15th chapter - eventually - to go along with the 14 chapters he's finished thus far.
As his Norwegian publisher, I'm eagerly awaiting this chapter - that goes without saying. But - and this is essential - Bollyn writes as late as April 3rd 2010 that he basically does not know who they were:
| Quote: | | What I hope will happen is that some one who was involved in putting the super-thermite in the World Trade Center will come forward. This would reveal the source of the extremely advanced nano-thermite that pulverized the Twin Towers. There must be quite a few people involved in the preparation of the towers for demolition. |
So the 15th chapter of Bollyn's book may take a long time coming.
I'm also puzzled or disturbed by the fact that Bollyn states in no uncertain terms in August of 2009 that the NT was made in Negev, Israel:
| Quote: | Israel's secret and super-secure nuclear lab is where the extremely powerful super-thermite of 9-11 was designed. The chief scientists involved in the manufacturing of the nano-composite used to pulverize the World Trade Center on 9-11 will be named in a forthcoming article in this space.
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I can understand that it takes a long time to prove something like this, but I don't like the idea that a researcher just claims this with no backup or documentation.
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Hi TorsteinViddal,
I think people are looking for NT on the wrong continent. There are only two places that I know where NT was being made in 2001. One was Indian Head Naval Warfare Centre just outside of Washington DC.
http://www.ih.navy.mil/
The other was SNPE in Toulouse, France. We know this because 10 days after 9/11 the factory which was co-located with AZF fertiliser, blew up killed 29 people and took out all the windows in the city. The explosion was blamed on a Muslim worker that joined the company just a week beforehand.
http://www.statemaster.com/encyclopedia/AZF |
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So the French editor-in-chief Marie-Paule Pileni who dramatically resigned from The Open Chemical Physics Journal after the publication of Niels Harrit's report on the finding of NT in the WTC dust, used to work for SNPE in Toulouse, accidentally one of the two labs in the world that made NT in 2001, and that also accidentally blew up ten days after 9/11 - is that what you're saying? Wow..
Why the Harrit Nano-thermite paper has not yet been debunked
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| TorsteinViddal wrote: | So the French editor-in-chief Marie-Paule Pileni who dramatically resigned from The Open Chemical Physics Journal after the publication of Niels Harrit's report on the finding of NT in the WTC dust, used to work for SNPE in Toulouse, accidentally one of the two labs in the world that made NT in 2001, and that also accidentally blew up ten days after 9/11 - is that what you're saying? Wow..
Why the Harrit Nano-thermite paper has not yet been debunked |
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I smell a story here.
BTW, how do you know those two were the only labs in 2001? All I've heard about is Lawrence Livermore and Los Alamos.
And again: Wow! Has anyone collected samples in Toulouse yet?
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I just wrote a little something here.
For Google English, try this link.
UPDATE: I just notified Professor Harrit, who said he was not aware of the SNPE angle - or the explosion at all - but he's now taking this story further on the Continent.
We'll see where this story goes. Thanks to Scienceplease for the info!
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If he wants to look into the truth then we would see mosad and american intellegence aswell as bilderberg getting named. I know for a fact nick rockafeller was deeply involved.
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| TorsteinViddal wrote: | I smell a story here.
BTW, how do you know those two were the only labs in 2001? All I've heard about is Lawrence Livermore and Los Alamos.
And again: Wow! Has anyone collected samples in Toulouse yet? |
The French had several websites covering the incident. I emailed one of the webmasters about a year ago but received no reply. The subject appears to have quietened down quite a bit. May there's a french Truther group that could do some reconnaissance
What existed in 2001 is difficult to say. Finding anything out about nanothermite is difficult. The Indian Head facility cost $8b in the 1990s so is probably easily the largest facility for nanothermite in the world. There are probably smaller facilities for its production in the US.
The coincidence of the SNPE explosion 10 days after 9/11 is certainly weird. I assume it must be the source of the WTC nanothermite because I assume that its chemical composition was unique. Blowing up the facility would ensure that the same composition could not be reproduced or traced to a particular factory (cf the weaponised anthrax that was traced to a specific US lab).
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| scienceplease 2 wrote: | The coincidence of the SNPE explosion 10 days after 9/11 is certainly weird. I assume it must be the source of the WTC nanothermite because I assume that its chemical composition was unique. Blowing up the facility would ensure that the same composition could not be reproduced or traced to a particular factory (cf the weaponised anthrax that was traced to a specific US lab).
Great going with contacting Prof Harrit! |
Well, I owe him a dinner as he paid for mine in Lillehammer last May.
If, as they say, you have thousands of nanoparticles to the thickness of a human hair, then I can't see how ALL the NT particles can have been removed from Toulouse. I'd bring a spade and choose Southern France for my next holiday...
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| TorsteinViddal wrote: | | scienceplease 2 wrote: | The coincidence of the SNPE explosion 10 days after 9/11 is certainly weird. I assume it must be the source of the WTC nanothermite because I assume that its chemical composition was unique. Blowing up the facility would ensure that the same composition could not be reproduced or traced to a particular factory (cf the weaponised anthrax that was traced to a specific US lab).
Great going with contacting Prof Harrit! |
Well, I owe him a dinner as he paid for mine in Lillehammer last May.
If, as they say, you have thousands of nanoparticles to the thickness of a human hair, then I can't see how ALL the NT particles can have been removed from Toulouse. I'd bring a spade and choose Southern France for my next holiday...
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While you are digging around,  look into the guy that the French Authorities blamed for the SNPE/AZF explosion. He was a new joiner (just one week, so after 9/11) and in that time he supposedly worked out how to blow up the whole place (and himself)... yet, despite being named as a suspect the Police did not visit his home for a few days and his "girlfriend" apparently cleared out his apartment of all documents and photos before the Police arrived. So there is no photo of this suspect... not one!
So is Prof Harrit as nice as he seems on YouTube? |
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I'd say he's nicer. He's what Denmark used to be like before the WoT.
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Christopher Bollyn today names the LVI corporation as suspects for placing the NT explosives in WTC.
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| TorsteinViddal wrote: | | Christopher Bollyn today names the LVI corporation as suspects for placing the NT explosives in WTC. |
Another possible source for nanothermite suggested from Christopher Bollyn's website.
The crucial question about 9-11 that needs to be answered is who made the super-Thermite that demolished the concrete of the World Trade Center, and who applied it to the interior surfaces, probably the undersides of the 220 floor pans? The evidence indicates that 9-11 was an Israeli-engineered act of false-flag terrorism, which would mean that Israel probably produced the nano-composite of Thermite. The Nuclear Research Center Negev, which is where Israel produces its nuclear weapons, has long been involved in development of super-Thermite. Lloyd Goldman's close connection to Ben Gurion University means that getting super-Thermite from the NRCN into the Twin Towers would practically be an in-house operation. |
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Science, can you help me find the best source for the statement that SNPE were/are producing NT/super-thermite?
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| TorsteinViddal wrote: | | Science, can you help me find the best source for the statement that SNPE were/are producing NT/super-thermite? |
No problem. It is discussed at length here:
http://www.911blogger.com/node/19963
This then goes back to both English and French articles. |
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| Quote: | | Did Bovis produce the super-thermite that pulverized the Twin Towers? It's certainly possible. Was the nano-thermite of 9-11 made in the Czech Republic? It's also possible. |
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| TorsteinViddal wrote: | | Quote: | | Did Bovis produce the super-thermite that pulverized the Twin Towers? It's certainly possible. Was the nano-thermite of 9-11 made in the Czech Republic? It's also possible. |
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Bollyn references:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/aug/18/september11.usa1
| Quote: | | From 12 September until 11 July, Siegel was director of field operations, overseeing the rescue on behalf of Bovis Landfill, which won the contract to clear the debris. |
I can confirm that the WTC site was antiseptically clean by October 2002...
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He remembers seeing a wheel of one of the hijacked planes two blocks away. Later, he learnt that they found the body of one of the stewardesses, 'gagged and tied to an airplane seat'. Mostly, though, they just uncovered body parts - 'on top of buildings, thrown through windows, but mostly buried in the rubble'. He heard from a colleague recently that there were 'over 18,000 body parts at the morgue'. |
He personally saw a wheel. (I believe this!)
"He learnt that they found the body of one of the stewardesses, 'gagged and tied to an airplane seat'"  (Reproduction of this old chestnut! So where is the actual proof of this?!!!) (I don't believe this)
"uncovered body parts - 'on top of buildings, thrown through windows, but mostly buried in the rubble'... 'over 18,000 body parts" (I believe this).
18,000 body parts and only 2000 victims identified. So Most People where blown up into 10 or more parts!
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The Czechs have a reputation for producing fine explosives: semtex for instance.... |
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No air craft parts found in the field.
Quote, "Aircraft Parts and the Precautionary Principle
Impossible to Prove a Falsehood True:
Aircraft Parts as a Clue to their Identity
by George Nelson
Colonel, USAF (ret.)
United Airlines Flight 93
This flight was reported by the federal government to be a Boeing 757 aircraft, registration number N591UA, carrying 45 persons, including four Arab hijackers who had taken control of the aircraft, crashing the plane in a Pennsylvania farm field.
Aerial photos of the alleged crash site were made available to the general public. They show a significant hole in the ground, but private investigators were not allowed to come anywhere near the crash site. If an aircraft crash caused the hole in the ground, there would have literally hundreds of serially-controlled time-change parts within the hole that would have proved beyond any shadow of doubt the precise tail-number or identity of the aircraft. However, the government has not produced any hard evidence that would prove beyond a doubt that the specifically alleged aircraft crashed at that site. On the contrary, it has been reported that the aircraft, registry number N591UA, is still in operation.
American Airlines Flight 11
This flight was reported by the government to be a Boeing 767, registration number N334AA, carrying 92 people, including five Arabs who had hijacked the plane. This plane was reported to have crashed into the north tower of the WTC complex of buildings.
Again, the government would have no trouble proving its case if only a few of the hundreds of serially controlled parts had been collected to positively identify the aircraft. A Boeing 767 landing gear or just one engine would have been easy to find and identify.
United Airlines Flight 175
This flight was reported to be a Boeing 767, registration number N612UA, carrying 65 people, including the crew and five hijackers. It reportedly flew into the south tower of the WTC.
Once more, the government has yet to produce one serially controlled part from the crash site that would have dispelled any questions as to the identity of the specific airplane.
American Airlines Flight 77
This was reported to be a Boeing 757, registration number N644AA, carrying 64 people, including the flight crew and five hijackers. This aircraft, with a 125-foot wingspan, was reported to have crashed into the Pentagon, leaving an entry hole no more than 65 feet wide.
Following cool-down of the resulting fire, this crash site would have been very easy to collect enough time-change equipment within 15 minutes to positively identify the aircraft registry. There was apparently some aerospace type of equipment found at the site but no attempt was made to produce serial numbers or to identify the specific parts found. Some of the equipment removed from the building was actually hidden from public view.
Conclusion
The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view. The hard evidence would have included hundreds of critical time-change aircraft items, plus security videotapes that were confiscated by the FBI immediately following each tragic episode.
With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged. Similarly, with all the evidence available at the Pennsylvania crash site, it was most doubtful that a passenger airliner caused the obvious hole in the ground and certainly not the Boeing 757 as alleged. Regarding the planes that allegedly flew into the WTC towers, it is only just possible that heavy aircraft were involved in each incident, but no evidence has been produced that would add credence to the government’s theoretical version of what actually caused the total destruction of the buildings, let alone proving the identity of the aircraft. That is the problem with the government’s 911 story. It is time to apply the precautionary principle.
As painful and heartbreaking as was the loss of innocent lives and the lingering health problems of thousands more, a most troublesome and nightmarish probability remains that so many Americans appear to be involved in the most heinous conspiracy in our country’s history.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_93
The pictue of the wreckage all are detailed picture used for demonstration. It could be pictured somewhere else.
These wreckage are big, but can never been found in whole scene picture. That proves it was taken somewhere else.
Watch these detailed picture. The wreckage with a bright color. The back ground is clean and plant are fresh, absolutely not from the field.
The only one picture (Skanksville) show that an engine looks like an old, rusty engine part could not be an engine that just working hours ago. Crash plane's part used to spread on the ground. Never seen that embedded under ground.
Now look back to your video again and compare with my comment. |
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Micpsi
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Why do you accept a claim that remains uncorroborated by any independent scientists?
Would it be because you want to believe it? 
If it is, this is religion, not science. Until his analysis has been checked by his peers by being submitted to peer review (NOT merely published in a vanity journal that did no checking), the Danish chemist's claim is unproved. |
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kathaksung
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| Micpsi wrote: |
Why do you accept a claim that remains uncorroborated by any independent scientists?
Would it be because you want to believe it?
If it is, this is religion, not science. Until his analysis has been checked by his peers by being submitted to peer review (NOT merely published in a vanity journal that did no checking), the Danish chemist's claim is unproved. |
You sound like a member of Swift Boat team to discount Government unfavorables. I'm so sorry that this site is intriguede by the intelligence. It seems you are not familiar with 911 truth, how could you be selected as moderator?
| Quote: | Evidence Refutes the Official 9/11 Investigation: The Scientific Forensic Facts
by Richard Gage and Gregg Roberts
Global Research, October 13, 2010
Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth - 2010-10-04
AE911Truth Delivers the Evidence to the Media: Press Conference - National Press Club – Washington DC
Ed. – This is the actual 10-minute statement read by Richard Gage, AIA, to the media at the AE911Truth press conference at the National Press Club in Washington DC on September 9, 2010.
As a group, we now have more than 1,270 architect and engineer petition signers. Collectively, we have more than 25,000 years of building and technical experience. This press conference is being given by our petition signers and supporters today in 65 [it turned out to be 67] locations around the world, including 30 states and 4 countries.
Today, we’re here to inform you that we have uncovered evidence that the official investigations into what happened to the World Trade Center skyscrapers on 9/11 were deeply flawed, or worse. The scientific forensic facts we have discovered have very troubling implications.
For example, a technologically advanced, highly energetic material has been discovered in World Trade Center dust from the 9/11 catastrophe.
Even before the microspheres and red/gray chips had been identified and brought to our attention, we were deeply concerned about other aspects of the destruction of these iconic buildings, and how they were investigated. More than two dozen firefighters, engineers, and other witnesses reported seeing substantial quantities of molten iron or steel, flowing like lava in the debris under all three World Trade Center high-rises. Office fires and jet fuel cannot possibly reach the temperatures necessary to liquefy iron or steel. A mixture called thermite, consisting of pulverized iron oxide and aluminum, CAN generate temperatures above 4000°F -- far more than is needed to melt iron or steel, which melts at about 2750°F.
The energetic material that was found in the WTC dust by an international team of scientists (led by Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen in Denmark) was reported in the peer-reviewed Bentham Open Journal of Chemical Physics. It consists of nano-engineered iron oxide and aluminum particles 1000th the size of a human hair, embedded in another substance consisting of carbon, oxygen, and silicon. The sizes of the iron oxide particles are extremely uniform, and neither they nor the ultra-fine-grain aluminum platelets could possibly have been created by a natural process such as a gravitational collapse or the impact of jetliners. The red/gray chips in which these particles were found exhibit the same characteristics as advanced energetic materials developed in US national laboratories in the years leading up to 9/11. They have no reason to be in this dust. Given all the horrific costs in human lives, lost civil liberties, and trillions of tax dollars spent in response to the official account of 9/11, there can be no more urgent need than for our country and the world to find out who put those materials in the World Trade Center – and why.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=21436
Is Leading 9/11 Truth Site Working For The Other Side?
BY RCFP STAFF WRITERS
http://z3.invisionfree.com/CIT/index.php?showtopic=1525 |
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Andrew Napolitano, Fox Business Host, Reveals He Is A 9/11 Truther
First Posted: 11-24-10
Fox Business host Andrew Napolitano revealed on Tuesday that he does not believe the government's account of the 9/11 attacks. Napolitano, who hosts "Freedom Watch" on Fox Business and is frequently seen on Fox News as a legal analyst, told radio host Alex Jones ?who is a prominent 9/11 conspiracy theorist 梩hat the attacks "couldn't possibly have been done the way the government told us."
The subject came about when Jones noted that Geraldo Rivera had recently raised questions about the collapse of World Trade Center 7 on Napolitano's Fox Business Show. 9/11 conspiracy theorists have centered on that building's collapse, contending that it was blown up by government forces. Jones asked Napolitano what his opinion about the issue was.
Napolitano replied:
"It's hard for me to believe that it came down by itself...I am gratified to see that people across the board are interested. I think twenty years from now, people will look at 9-11 the way we look at the assassination of JFK today. It couldn't possibly have been done the way the government told us."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/11/24/andrew-napolitano-fox-bus_n_7 88219.html |
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youtube clip has been pulled sadly
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