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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 9:26 am    Post subject: Jane Burgermeister - scam? Reply with quote

Posted on behalf of Jazon Pearl at 91177info

I have made this into a video please respond with proof of your charges so I can remove it.


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This is a message to my subscribers and people who have discovered that the H1N1 Swineflu was a fake pandemic which it was.

I have emailed the content of this video to Jane Burgermeister as a last attempt to see verification that she has filed charges like she said she has and as a last attempt to be given the evidence that her charges actually exist. If she replies with evidence I will remove this video and put another video up promoting theflucase.com but until I do this video is going to stay.

Until such evidence is provided I will be deleting all videos relating to Jane Burgermeister as of next week. The reason is because she is using her website theflucase.com to fraudulently accept money from people to cover the costs of a bogus court case and the costs involved with filing charges against pharmaceutical companies in Austria.

As far as I can see and find this is not true and it is very worrying why she has claimed this.

I have contacted her and asked her to verify her claims and provide evidence that she has filed charges and in response I received very unfriendly and threatening replies.

I know of a famous musician who has donated $1000 and then found out there is no charges/case at all.

I have received threats of legal action if I pursue this enquiry and Jane has said I have threatened to harm her. This is not true and is deeply offensive because I am not like that as a person.

I have contacted various organisations trying to find evidence that Jane Burgermeister has filed charges and I can not find any evidence to prove this is the case.

This has troubled me as it was my channel which promoted her work in the beginning. I also secured several interviews for her in the past.

I think it is wrong that she is asking for money from the public to cover costs for what I can see are bogus charges filed.

As much as theflucase.com is a good website for vaccine awareness and I hope promotes informed consent I think it is wrong to accept money from people for actions which have not been taken, such as filing charges.

I asked very politely to show me evidence that she has filed charges and all I received was a barrage of accusations that I was working for the New World Order and I had threatened her life or safety.

Due to the fact that my channel has publicised her in the very beginning and my videos are used to promote her work and her website and the fact that Jane has taken such a stance with me when I politely tried to verify her charges I have no choice but to remove all videos of her and her work from my channel.

I do not want to promote disinformation and promote a scam.

Saying that, there are some good articles which users have sent to her in regards to vaccine awareness and if you want to donate to the website running costs that is all well and good. But if you are donating to the case of charges being filed please ask for verification first.

I am sorry for any misunderstanding but I only wanted to promote vaccine awareness and a reality of truth.

Thank you

91177info


Check out Ian R Crane's Facebook page for a more detailed insight into the investigation into JB's claim to have 'filed charges'
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the vaccines are fake, baxter was found sending out test vaccines to europe that contained bird flu, This was intended because baxters labs are screened by law.

recombinomics has reported h1n1 d225gn has killed thousands. This is a deadly swine flu that causes mutation.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, Ian, I've seen this accusation against Burgermeister before
Maybe some people have been relieved of money falsely in a way.
Still, her evidence put a big hole in the swine flu case from the start, triggering many thousands, perhaps tens of.., to see the whole episode as a manmade creation, a fraud, a vaccine scam and an imminent danger that was best rejected
Epidemics and pandemics are wierd energetic telluristic waves dependent on the mass perception resulting in despondency and acceptance of the inevitable
Swine flu, and certainly the vaccination, was rejected by a mass of people, perhaps a critical mass, and had reached its peak and died before they managed to even get the vaccine on the street
In no small way due to JM's early efforts, even if they were fraudulent
If that were the case, I wouldn't resent her making a few worthwhile bucks, against Pharmas hostile billions

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 04, 2010 6:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Paul,

this is an issue that demands far deeper investigation

Try this for starters:

http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/jane-burgermeister-stfu-you-n arcissistic-poor-excuse-for-a-human-being/
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 05, 2010 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ianrcrane wrote:
Hi Paul,

this is an issue that demands far deeper investigation

Try this for starters:

http://labvirus.wordpress.com/2009/08/06/jane-burgermeister-stfu-you-n arcissistic-poor-excuse-for-a-human-being/

I see that Jane is on the program for The Wake Up Call in May
Perhaps this could be challenged there

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 3:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Indeed.

As do Ian and Jim by all accounts...

http://www.theflucase.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id =3194%3Aare-jim-corr-ian-crane-and-jazon-pearl-all-cointelpro-agents-w hat-is-their-gaol&catid=1%3Alatest-news&Itemid=64&lang=en


How did AV4 go by the way Ian?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The OP is glaringly obvious co-intel. Poor dupes or deliberate fifth elephants?

It doesn't take much research to see how pivotal (not to mention extremely brave!) Jane Bergermeister was in publicising the Baxter scandal. The fact that her 'indictment' did not 'catch on' can be directly attributed to those who hold sway over several country's supreme courts; that is, the very same people she indicted...

As an object lesson in how the 'minds' of the NWO and their very questionable minions work, this thread is a classic example of that old Zionist saw (once again - it cannot be repeated often enough, IMO):

"We will lead every revolution against us"

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 7:57 am    Post subject: Jane Burgermeister Scam Reply with quote

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The OP is glaringly obvious co-intel. Poor dupes or deliberate fifth elephants?


Yet another 'insightful' posting from an anonymous 'Truther' ... based upon zero supporting evidence! A few minutes research will reveal that Jane Burgermester has taken to attacking anyone who has the audacity to request access to the evidence supporting her claims to have 'filed charges' against Baxter, Novartis, WHO, US Government, etc, etc.

In addition to myself, the following people are amongst those who have been subjected to the wrath of Jane Burgermeister:

F. William Engdahl
Desiree Rover
Jim Corr
Bill Deagle
John Hammell

In addition, many early supporters of JB have subsequently withdrawn their support due to her refusal to produce the requested evidence.

I have written many times that I will be the first in line to apologise to JB for any misunderstanding just as soon as I have the opportunity to corroborate her claims to have filed charges. If seeking evidence to support claims made by those who claim to have initiated legal action, warrents the label of 'COINTELPRO' ... then I am indeed guilty as charged!

It is now three months since I first asked JB to provide supporting documentation to enable her claims to be verified. Tellingly, neither JB nor any of her supporters have been able to produce the requested documentation.

Perhaps the anonymous Thermate911 is privy to the requested information and has had the opportunity to review and verify JB' claims? If so, please share so that I might also have the opportunity to do the same and to subsequently offer my profound apologies to JB for casting aspertions on her integrity.

Your in Truth,

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 25, 2010 9:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The fact that this went public should be enough (people who break the Law such as what Jane Bergermeister has helped expose do not need to have “filed charges” against them) Its public knowledge and so Law abiding people, who under true Law have the same rights as anyone, should see that criminals are brought to Justice and under true Law is not the right of a plutocratic so called legal system to file charges on Law abiding peoples behalf.

As these so called lawyers cause so much harm, injury and Loss in such cases they are committing an imprisonable offence under true Laws. If they legislate such false laws and/or enforce them like politicians and others, it’s more than an imprisonable offence because of the harm, injury and loss they cause to people.


PS: Andrew Edmans, Wawickshire, UK.

Please could I come and make a speech at any of your events please Ian. I don’t do things behind closed doors but if you prefer PM, me.
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 10:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Too many non-empathetic 'fifth elephants' around here, Ian, to make much sense of the present 'thrust' against JB, so I'll pass. In the same vein, this sort of 'defame, divert & destroy' procedure is exactly why I choose to remain at least superficially anonymous on the web.

Try this instead:-

http://www.rense.com/general90/dppp.htm

"Profitable Depopulation Plot Links JP Morgan-Chase And Goldman Sachs To Vaccination Contaminations And BigPharma Corruption
By Dr. Leonard Horowitz"

He's at the very least as 'trustworthy' as any of those you cited 'subjected to wrath'. Perhaps if you actually made the effort to meet JB you would understand her bravery and her terror a little better?

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I also belatedly note the banning of the young enthusiast known as 'satya' (what on earth for?) - and how ironic is that? Would you ban Gandhiji, now?

I'll probably join him/her by asking you, Ian - why do you sell what others give of themselves for free? It just doesn't add up, IMO.

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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2010 4:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is issue is surely straight forward

JB seeks donations for a specific action but is unable (or chooses not) to demonstrate that she has spent the money as she said she would and it is perfectly reasonable to ask to see this. End of....
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PostPosted: Mon May 03, 2010 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I feel not nearly enough account is being taken here of the contents of her indictment and more to the point, exactly who she is attempting to indict and why.

A total lack of empathy or a determination to get her killed? Which is it?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hopefully, the Icelanders will help her before she's swallowed up in Davignon's evil coterie of 'judges'...'cos it sure looks like nobody else will...despite the Daily Wail plastering headlines about WHO 'mis-dealings yesterday'...despite intense grassroots efforts to support her...

Surely, isn't this exactly what we are supposed to be exposing and countering here? The near absolute power of a very few degenerate psychotics now largely in charge of our food, our medicines and our water?

Perhaps it is time for people to review what she has written and, gasp, shudder, give her some support instead of trying to nit-pick procedural holes into her (already proven, FFS!) case?

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/04/ et seq.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2010 12:52 pm    Post subject: And the point is? Reply with quote

the implication is that JB is a disinfo agent, con artist or just deluded. Yet none of these possibilities make much sense.

Could those who attack JB please explain:
- why is it in the interests of the NWO to have JB pretend to file charges;
- why is it in their interests to have JB allege that bird flu is a genocidal scam?

Also, why should we attack and dissociate ourselves from JB if she in fact has not filed charges?

Are these reported attempts by the Austrian government to put JB in jail somehow scams?
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Are these reported attempts by the Austrian government to put JB in jail somehow scams?


Somehow? That's putting it very mildly!

Very good questions you pose, insidejob

I would have thought by now that most of the longterm posters here would have got a clue by now about how the so-called elite (13 clearly identifiable bloodlines, AFAIAC) operate when faced with opposition to their plans.

Every one of you must have read the Dutroux, Franklin and Gladio research - so why the complete floundering when someone fragile like Jane actually shows the guts to name their names; name their deeds and expose them for what they are?

The only conclusion I can come to is obscene expressions of the 'damage control', 'limited hangout' and 'plausible deniability' variety.

I never expected to see such activity on a site like this, larded as it is with enough information to put all the 'top' criminals in jail for life - if only there were just a little determination!

Carry on - shoot the messengers...it never alters the message though, does it?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow gotta say I do like the Facebook 'like' button!!
Well said you two!!

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The work of our own actors.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 15, 2010 10:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://birdflu666.wordpress.com/2009/04/


All pharmacy/vaccines are bad, there is no some good and some bad: it's a false contrast (false dichotomy) presented. Why has this taken so long to be mentioned?
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Empathy check. Bit late now, as we've succeeded despite the rumblings here and on other sites trying to trash her character.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/1/stop-jane-burgermeister-from-going-to -prison-for-speaking-the-truth/

Good to see you there, Andrew ;-)

Op-ed seems to be 'undergoing a change of management' too:-
Recap http://www.opednews.com/populum/page.php?a=116204&p=1

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PostPosted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Good to see you there, Andrew Wink


If that is about me and were I to sign it, I would say:

All pharmacy/vaccines are bad, there is no some good and some bad, so I only agree in part with what I see presented here.

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Oh and why bring the IRA in to it. Belfast?

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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 10:00 am    Post subject: Jane Burgermeister Reply with quote

Thermate911 wrote:

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... despite the rumblings here and on other sites trying to trash her (Jane Burgermeister's) character.


I do not see anyone trying to 'trash' Jane Burgermeister's character! What I do see is a large number of credible researchers, authors, broadcasters, contributors and an attorney, who have all asked Jane to produce the following:

1). Evidence that she did actually file charges, as she repeatedly claims.

2). The names & addresses of her legal representatives.

3). The current status of said legal proceedings.

4). A set of accounts showing utilization of donations received.

All the above strike me as being very reasonable requests but which cause Jane Burgermeister to threaten legal action against the inquirer! As to why she behaves in this way, one can only surmise. However, this has been her MO for over a year now and still not a single piece of evidence has materialized which would surely exonerate her instantaneously in the eyes of her detractors.

It should also be noted that Jane Burgermeister appears to have vilified the only person (Elizabeth Book) who spending $6000 of her own money initiated legal proceedings in the US.

However, if you should wish to establish the facts for yourself, please contact Jane Burgermeister directly. She has posted her Email address HERE

It may also be of interest that Jane Burgermeister has now turned on her webmaster.


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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 1:17 pm    Post subject: JB may have flaws but Reply with quote

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I do not see anyone trying to 'trash' Jane Burgermeister's character! What I do see is a large number of credible researchers, authors, broadcasters, contributors and an attorney, who have all asked Jane to produce the following:


JB's critics may well have identified her alienating character flaws. To ask for donations for a legal case she has no intention of filing could be incompetence or a scam. (But who the heck would accuse powerful people of genocide as part of a charity scam?)

Or it could be understandable paranoid behaviour because she feels she is and has been under pressure. Does anyone think that losing your job because you have spoken out is not going to lead to stress? Whistleblowers acting for our good have ended up with nervous breakdowns after attacks on them and after losing their job. The idea that someone in her position without considerable support is going to behave rationally is absurd.

But the criticisms misses the point. The criticism of JB directly or indirectly attacks her bird/swine flu campaign. Indeed, people will dismiss her campaign on the basis of these legitimate criticisms and questions.

Is that the intention?
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PostPosted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 5:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But the criticisms misses the point. The criticism of JB directly or indirectly attacks her bird/swine flu campaign. Indeed, people will dismiss her campaign on the basis of these legitimate criticisms and questions.

Is that the intention?


A valid question and one that perhaps will only be answered once Jane Burgermeister acknowledges the division directly attributable to the non-production of anything which might demonstrate the veracity of her claims! Jane Burgermeister could shutdown this unseemly debate in a heartbeat, yet she has persistently reacted with vitriol and threat of legal action towards anyone who politely asks to review the relevant documentation. This behavior should have been ringing alarm bells but it seems to have beaten the majority of the 'Truth Community' into submission.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 19, 2010 8:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A valid question and one that perhaps will only be answered once Jane Burgermeister acknowledges the division directly attributable to the non-production of anything which might demonstrate the veracity of her claims!


Erm, how can she 'acknowledge' anything to anyone when she is being heavily persecuted by the most powerful people in the world; the people she indicted in the first place?

I also note that insidejob's most pertinent questions have been sidestepped. Why am I not surprised?

There is a serious and alarming disconnect here; either that or 'some people' are way too comfortable in their armchairs and their theories...

I would go so far as to say that there is a notable lack of empathy here; a notable lack of guts, too...

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A valid question and one that perhaps will only be answered once Jane Burgermeister acknowledges the division directly attributable to the non-production of anything which might demonstrate the veracity of her claims!


Erm, how can she 'acknowledge' anything to anyone when she is being heavily persecuted by the most powerful people in the world; the people she indicted in the first place?

I also note that insidejob's most pertinent questions have been sidestepped. Why am I not surprised?

There is a serious and alarming disconnect here; either that or 'some people' are way too comfortable in their armchairs and their theories...

I would go so far as to say that there is a notable lack of empathy here; a notable lack of guts, too...



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I also note that insidejob's most pertinent questions have been sidestepped. Why am I not surprised?


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"But who the heck would accuse powerful people of genocide as part of a charity scam?"

Most so called charities are scams and are well known (set up to fight the effects and not the cause and/or are infiltrated) further because of usury the satanic plutocracy issue credit to what they choose.

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“I would go so far as to say that there is a notable lack of empathy here; a notable lack of guts, too...”

The intentional poisoning of people is a capital offence. Without a court case needed anyone has the right to warn them of why it is so bad, and then if they continue you know it’s by intent. They have a choice and so do all people have a choice if they want to continue with it, but not to force it on people against their will. If people loved each other they would not let this poisoning of people happen by any form of pharmacy at all, nor let Jane Burgermeister cause harm ( to herself and others) by suggesting some are bad only because of Contamination by intent.

All pharmacy/vaccines are bad; there is no some good and some bad. Which is why Pharmacy is up to a *capital offence; spiritually a certainty.


* In true judgment a case has to be proven 100%, these are cases which are so easy to prove 100% without a court case.

Which is another reason why people need to return to the Law so no one needs to get hurt.

I will put my name to it in public Thermate911, Andrew Edmans.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again, good for you, Andrew but personally I'd like Tavistock Institute & Thames House to have to work a little harder than that. The more we can slow them up and throw sand in to their evil schemes, the better, IMO ;-)

One vital point for the JB detractors here is to ask "Are you quite satisfied with the integrity of the FBI and EU Commission-controlled judiciary?"

If so, you are either in their employ or, quite frankly, you don't have even the first clue, post-Robert Mueller III and post-Etienne Davignon. This, and only this is why JB has got absolutely nowhere with lodging her indictment in the US and EU.

It's a tragedy that brave people have to get martyred before the veils drop from bystanders eyes...

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Good call Thermate911, you know where I stand (for their execution by any means available because of the murders they embrace etc, *in accordance to the real Law) Lets see what they (detractors) have to say and what you say.

*An explanation can be given.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Both 'sides' appear to accept that this unseemly debate is damaging to the cause.

What has not been addressed by Andrew, Inside and thermate is whether the watcher's statement that

"Jane Burgermeister could shutdown this unseemly debate in a heartbeat"

is true or not and if it is true, why Jane chooses not to answer her critics.

Not unsurprisingly the more someone avoids the question the more suspicions have reason to grow.
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PostPosted: Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What has not been addressed by Andrew, Inside and thermate is whether the watcher's statement that



I have, I would not sign it regardless of watcher's statement because as stated and I don’t go for the idea of a court case when courts are run by criminals. Although if the charge was changed I would sign it (agree with) To show people that the so called Justice system is not just and nothing would change unless people try a different approach.

What I do see is people? Sign a deceptive charge? (regardless to there being a charge made or not) Which suggests that they are only bad because of contamination by intent, when ALL pharmacy is bad? And has done damage to every one who has read it and understood it as it’s only bad because of contamination.

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Related, though not necessarily the same and keeping it short:

If I, had to go to court on a made up charge ( In short and with all the evidence) I would go through a procedure where if they wanted to continue, I would request a jury of my peers (public) and have the fake none queen attend. Then in front of a jury, show them how bad the so called Justice system is and that she is fake and corrupt. I will have then done my duty and would take the consequences.
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 21, 2010 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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"Jane Burgermeister could shutdown this unseemly debate in a heartbeat"


More to the point, so could the Rottenchilds and Rockyfellas and the rest of the 13 families...

But have they? No, of course not as, by their own admission in various books and publications, they are the defendants!

I find some of the 'shoot the messenger' reasoning here quite bizarre - especially coming from people who profess to be truth seekers! Unlike Jane and her genuine helpers, few here seem able to tackle the realities of the situation.

Reminds me of that old George Carlin (or was it Bill Hicks?) clip, where he says "Go back to sleep, America; your gubbermint's in control again; here's "American Idol"; watch this and shut up!"

'Unseemly debate', my *rse!

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