Please send this to every news agency, newspaper and person you know. Let us spread the word that we will not tolerate military coverup of murder.
WikiLeaks to reveal Pentagon murder-coverup at US National Press Club, Apr 5, 9am; contact press-club@sunshinepress.org
The State Department/CIA has been tailing and detaining those related to Wikileaks over the planned April 5th leak of a decrypted video depicting an airstrike on civilians and journalissts.
"We have airline records of the State Dep/CIA tails. Don't think you can get away with it. You cannot. This is WikiLeaks."
Sounds like the people behind Wikileaks are under some pressure. Since this is unlikely to turn up in your newspapers, I post it here to spread awareness.
Wikileaks has a mission of bringing hidden information to light, when it’s in the public interest. Wikipedia outlines their greatest hits http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikileaks , including Gauntanamo Bay procedure documents, scientology secrets, and net censorship lists. They come under fire sometimes for hosting material that probably isn’t much in the public interest, but overall they have contributed some compelling information to some fractious global arguments.
In the last 24 hours, their Twitter feed has contained some worrying content.
http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/10961072669
WikiLeaks to reveal Pentagon murder-coverup at US National Press Club, Apr 5, 9am; contact press-club@sunshinepress.org
WikiLeaks is currently under an aggressive US and Icelandic surveillance operation. Following/photographing/filming/detaining
If anything happens to us, you know why: it is our Apr 5 film. And you know who is responsible.
Two under State Dep diplomatic cover followed our editor from Iceland to http://skup.no on Thursday.
One related person was detained for 22 hours. Computer’s seized.That’s http://www.skup.no
We know our possession of the decrypted airstrike video is now being discussed at the highest levels of US command.
We have been shown secret photos of our production meetings and been asked specific questions during detention related to the airstrike.
We have airline records of the State Dep/CIA tails. Don’t think you can get away with it. You cannot. This is WikiLeaks.
All those came out in a rush, then silence for hours. Might just be a timezone thing, with people sleeping, or maybe there’s been no news, or maybe everyone with access to the Twitter feed has been detained. I await more information.
UPDATE: “To those worrying about us–we’re fine, and will issue a suitable riposte shortly.” 8.22am NZ time.
http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/10993931099
UPDATE: Just noticed that the first tweet quoted, “WikiLeaks to reveal Pentagon murder-coverup” is gone from the feed. Now I wish I’d linked to all of them individually. Anyway, it was definitely there, and I think Linda is right that it is this previously-referred-to video
http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/9412020034
UPDATE: commenter eru found the missing tweet. It isn’t visible in the ordinary feed for some reason.
http://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/10860504725
-Jonathan Elinoff _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
There is debate as to what happened during the interrogation in Iceland [not other matters]. We are seeking clarification.
about 11 hours ago via bit.ly
WikiLeaks v. Pentagon (video) | RT http://bit.ly/bnaQXF
12:38 AM Mar 27th via bit.ly
Leaked CIA memo on Western Europe: "Public Apathy Enables Leaders To Ignore Voters." http://bit.ly/wlcia
4:55 PM Mar 26th via bit.ly
LEAK: CIA recommendations on how to manipulate French/German public to stay in Afghanistan http://bit.ly/wlcia
3:41 PM Mar 26th via bit.ly
Great BBC secrecy segment with Martin Bright, Heather Brooke, Katherine Gun, Derek Pasquill, et al http://bit.ly/aiwwxu
11:55 AM Mar 26th via bit.ly
Norway's ABCnews confirms WikiLeaks spying story http://bit.ly/cD1ZE3
8:25 AM Mar 26th via bit.ly
WikiLeaks to US: "please explain" | SBSnews http://bit.ly/bLXd2i
8:02 AM Mar 26th via bit.ly
WikiLeaks editor speaking in Malaysia (video) http://bit.ly/buQIK5
4:33 AM Mar 26th via bit.ly
Pentagon targets WikiLeaks | SBS http://bit.ly/9GDIvY
2:24 AM Mar 25th via bit.ly
Chinese government continues to block WikiLeaks, but eases up on BBC. What does this tell you? http://bit.ly/apQXRN
1:31 AM Mar 25th via bit.ly
Is US govt spying on WikiLeaks? |Gawker http://bit.ly/cOqlAU
11:05 PM Mar 24th via bit.ly
To those worrying about us--we're fine, and will issue a suitable riposte shortly.
7:20 PM Mar 24th via bit.ly
We have airline records of the State Dep/CIA tails. Don't think you can get away with it. You cannot. This is WikiLeaks.
4:04 AM Mar 24th via bit.ly
We have been shown secret photos of our production meetings and been asked specific questions during detention related to the airstrike.
3:59 AM Mar 24th via bit.ly
One related person was detained for 22 hours. Computer's seized.That's http://www.skup.no
3:43 AM Mar 24th via bit.ly
Two under State Dep diplomatic cover followed our editor from Iceland to http://skup.no on Thursday.
3:35 AM Mar 24th via bit.ly _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
*. I would say more but im so * angry right now.
most of my responce would be censored. * AMERICA _________________ Think for yourself....Question Authority
Sick b*st@rds. _________________ > this is a crisis i knew had to come
> destroying the balance i'd kept
> turning around to the next set of lies
> wondering what will come next
[ passover / joy division ]
Help us release more classified U.S. military footage of civilian killing in war http://bit.ly/spotwl _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 10:29 pm Post subject:
Haven't been as wound up as watching that slaughter for a while.
Looks like it was the deliberate assassination of the non-ebedded,as seen before.
"RPG, RPG" my arse,just the excuse needed for those brave boys in their
"hellfire" hellis.
On the flip-side, this is just the sort of thing that will no doubt be used in the future by the UN to show how evil Americans are when the reality is quite different.
Only the indoctrinated few can actually do the cold blooded killings without
hesitation followed by remorse. _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:09 pm Post subject:
The wounded guy on the ground unable to walk or crawl obviously incapacitated and they are wanting him to pick up a weapon so they can finish him off. "Yeah, nice shootin" "Right through the windscreen ha ha"
2 kids in the front seat.
Sickos taking enjoyment out of killing.
Its ok , whats the fuss they all had funny sounding names definitely not westerners job done! _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
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Posted: Tue Apr 06, 2010 11:28 pm Post subject:
Well he took a hit from a 30mm cannon,no doubt there was a huge section of his body obliterated,therefore little risk of him picking up his camera to take pics of his assailants.
On the plus side, slaughter by video is widely available in most gaming outlets for our indoctrination,except most know the difference between CG images,and live human flesh consequences and the empathy required.
Or the short version:- yeah you're right it's sick alright. _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
I seem to remember a couple of videos using nighttime vision back in 04. One of killing unarmed civilians being shot while leaving a mosque
That's 6 years of this aerial videogame slaughter going on _________________ http://www.exopolitics-leeds.co.uk/introduction
If there is any comfort in this situation is that:
a) These images are being seen all around the world
b) It secures weakileaks place on the internet
c) Anti-War calls are going to be even louder
Three months ago, WikiLeaks, a whistleblower Web site that posts classified and sensitive documents, put out an urgent call for help on Twitter.
“Have encrypted videos of U.S. bomb strikes on civilians. We need super computer time," stated the Web site, which calls itself “an intelligence agency of the people.”
Somehow — it will not say how — WikiLeaks found the necessary computer time to decrypt a graphic video, released Monday, of a United States Army assault in Baghdad in 2007 that left 12 people dead, including two employees of the news agency Reuters. The video has been viewed more than two million times on YouTube, and has been replayed hundreds of times in television news reports.
The release of the Iraq video is drawing attention to the once-fringe Web site, which aims to bring to light hidden information about governments and multinational corporations — putting secrets in plain sight and protecting the identity of those who help do so. Accordingly, the site has become a thorn in the side of authorities in the United States and abroad. With the Iraq attack video, the clearinghouse for sensitive documents is edging closer toward a form of investigative journalism and to advocacy.
“That’s arguably what spy agencies do — high-tech investigative journalism," Julian Assange, one of the site’s founders, said in an interview on Tuesday. “It’s time that the media upgraded its capabilities along those lines.”
Mr. Assange, an Australian activist and journalist, founded the site three years ago along with a group of like-minded activists and computer experts. Since then, WikiLeaks has published documents about toxic dumping in Africa, protocols from Guantánamo Bay, e-mail messages from Sarah Palin’s personal account and 9/11 pager messages.
Today there is a core group of five full-time volunteers, according to Daniel Schmitt, a site spokesman, and there are 800 to 1,000 people whom the group can call on for expertise in areas like encryption, programming and writing news releases.
The site is not shy about its intent to shape media coverage, and Mr. Assange said he considered himself both a journalist and an advocate; should he be forced to choose one, he would choose advocate. WikiLeaks did not merely post the 38-minute video, it used the label “Collateral Murder” and said it depicted “indiscriminate” and “unprovoked” killing. (The Pentagon defended the killings and said no disciplinary action was taken at the time of the incident.)
“From my human point of view, I couldn’t believe it would be so easy to wreak that kind of havoc on the city, when they can’t see what is really going on there," Mr. Schmitt said in an interview from Germany on Monday night.
The Web site also posted a 17-minute edited version, which proved to be much more widely viewed on YouTube than the full version. Critics contend that the shorter video was misleading because it did not make clear that the attacks took place amid clashes in the neighborhood and that one of the men was carrying a rocket-propelled grenade.
By releasing such a graphic video, which a media organization had tried in vain to get through traditional channels, WikiLeaks has inserted itself in the national discussion about the role of journalism in the digital age. Where judges and plaintiffs could once stop or delay publication with a court order, WikiLeaks exists in a digital sphere in which information becomes instantly available.
“The most significant thing about the release of the Baghdad video is that several million more people are on the same page,” with knowledge of WikiLeaks, said Lisa Lynch, an assistant professor of journalism at Concordia University in Montreal, who recently published a paper about the site. “It is amazing that outside of the conventional channels of information something like this can happen.”
Reuters had tried for two and a half years through the Freedom of Information Act to obtain the Iraq video, to no avail. WikiLeaks, as always, refuses to say how it obtained the video, and credits only “our courageous source.”
Mr. Assange said “research institutions” offered to help decrypt the Army video, but he declined to detail how they went about it. After decrypting the attack video, WikiLeaks in concert with an Icelandic television channel sent two people to Baghdad last weekend to gather information about the killings, at a cost of $50,000, the site said.
David Schlesinger, Reuters editor in chief, said Tuesday that the video was disturbing to watch “but also important to watch.” He said he hoped to meet with the Pentagon “to press the need to learn lessons from this tragedy.”
WikiLeaks publishes its material on its own site, which is housed on a few dozen servers around the globe, including places like Sweden, Belgium and the United States that the organization considers friendly to journalists and document leakers, Mr. Schmitt said.
By being everywhere, yet in no exact place, WikiLeaks is, in effect, beyond the reach of any institution or government that hopes to silence it.
Because it relies on donations, however, WikiLeaks says it has struggled to keep its servers online. It has found moral, but not financial, support from some news organizations, like The Guardian in Britain, which said in January that “If you want to read the exposés of the future, it’s time to chip in.”
On Tuesday, WikiLeaks claimed to have another encrypted video, said to show an American airstrike in Afghanistan that killed 97 civilians last year, and used the opportunity to ask for donations.
WikiLeaks has grown increasingly controversial as it has published more material. (The United States Army called it a threat to its operations in a report last month.) Many have tried to silence the site; in Britain, WikiLeaks has been used a number of times to evade injunctions on publication by courts that ruled that the material would violate the privacy of the people involved. The courts reversed themselves when they discovered how ineffectual their rulings were.
Another early attempt to shut down the site involved a United States District Court judge in California. In 2008, Judge Jeffrey S. White ordered the American version of the site shut down after it published confidential documents concerning a subsidiary of a Swiss bank. Two weeks later he reversed himself, in part recognizing that the order had little effect because the same material could be accessed on a number of other “mirror sites.”
Judge White said at the time, “We live in an age when people can do some good things and people can do some terrible things without accountability necessarily in a court of law.”
US special forces 'tried to cover-up' botched Khataba raid in Afghanistan
Jerome Starkey, Kabul .
Relatives at the graves of five people killed, including three women, during the night raid
US special forces soldiers dug bullets out of their victims’ bodies in the bloody aftermath of a botched night raid, then washed the wounds with alcohol before lying to their superiors about what happened, Afghan investigators have told The Times.
Two pregnant women, a teenage girl, a police officer and his brother were shot on February 12 when US and Afghan special forces stormed their home in Khataba village, outside Gardez in eastern Afghanistan. The precise composition of the force has never been made public.
The claims were made as Nato admitted responsibility for all the deaths for the first time last night. It had initially claimed that the women had been dead for several hours when the assault force discovered their bodies.
“Despite earlier reports we have determined that the women were accidentally killed as a result of the joint force firing at the men,” said Lieutenant-Colonel Todd Breasseale, a Nato spokesman. The coalition continued to deny that there had been a cover-up and said that its legal investigation, which is ongoing, had found no evidence of inappropriate conduct.
The Kabul headquarters of General Stanley McChrystal, the commander of US and Nato forces, claimed originally that the women had been “tied up, gagged and killed”.
A senior Afghan official involved in a government investigation told The Times: “I think the special forces lied to McChrystal.”
“Why did the special forces collect their bullets from the area?” the official said. “They washed the area of the injuries with alcohol and brought out the bullets from the dead bodies. The bodies showed there were big holes.”
The official, who asked not to be named until the results of the investigation have been made public, said that the assault force sealed off the compound from 4am, when the raid started, to 11am, when Afghan officials from Gardez were finally allowed access to the house.
At least 11 bullets were fired during the raid, the investigator said, and the shooting was carried out by two American gunmen positioned on the roof of the compound. Only seven bullets were recovered from the scene.
“I asked McChrystal, ‘why did the Americans clean some of the bullets from the area?’ They don’t have the right to do that,” the official said.
Haji Sharabuddin, the head of the family who were attacked, told The Times last month that troops removed bullets from his relatives’ bodies, but his claims were impossible to verify. The hallway where four of the five victims were killed had been repainted and at least two bullet holes had been plastered over.
Video footage of the raid’s aftermath, collected by Afghan investigators, shows close-up shots of one man’s bloodstained and punctured torso and walls with blood on them. The Afghan official’s conclusion that the bullets were removed is based on the testimony of survivors, analysis of the photographs and the missing bullets.
Nato promised a joint forensic investigation in a statement issued after the raid, but Rear Admiral Greg Smith, the coalition’s director of communications in Afghanistan, said that this had proved impossible because the bodies were buried the same day in accordance with Islamic custom.
Instead Afghanistan’s Ministry of Interior sent its top criminal investigator from Kabul, and a Canadian brigadier-general led a separate military inquiry.
The Afghan investigation differed in one respect from The Times’ findings. Survivors told this newspaper that Saranwal Zahir, the police officer’s brother, was shot when he tried to shout that his family was innocent. The women, who were crouching behind him, were killed in the same volley of fire. Afghan investigators believe that Mr Zahir was carrying an AK47 and wanted to avenge his brother’s killers. The women were clustered around him, trying to pull him inside the house, when the second US gunman opened fire, killing all four of them.
Footage collected by the Afghan team also shows a man in United States Army uniform taking pictures of the bodies. The findings have not been made public. The Interior Ministry is expected to pass a report to the Attorney-General’s office, which will decide whether or not it can press criminal charges.
The family had more than 25 guests on the night of the attack, as well as three musicians, to celebrate the naming of a newborn child.
“In what culture in the world do you invite ... people for a party and meanwhile kill three women?” asked the senior official. “The dead bodies were just eight metres from where they were preparing the food. The Americans, they told us the women were dead for 14 hours.”
In a statement yesterday, Brigadier-General Eric Tremblay, a Nato spokesman, said: “We deeply regret the outcome of this operation, accept responsibility for our actions that night, and know that this loss will be felt forever by the families.
“The force went to the compound based on reliable information in search of a Taleban insurgent, and believed that the two men posed a threat to their personal safety. We now understand that the men killed were only trying to protect their families.”
I despair why do you need video to know this war is wrong?
This has been the state of play since day one! Even the MSM has covered many of the crimes
I am not shocked at the video content, more the peoples reaction to it? This stuff has been around and around in many forms since well Gulf War 1 really _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
I despair :( why do you need video to know this war is wrong?
This has been the state of play since day one! Even the MSM has covered many of the crimes :(
I am not shocked at the video content, more the peoples reaction to it? This stuff has been around and around in many forms since well Gulf War 1 really :(
What a blinkered reaction! Why do you think we need video? For all the dumbed down BBC, Sky News, Fox News and all the other coporate owned media outlet subcriber morons to wake them up. It is not rocket science. Think before you write DD! _________________ "It's called the American Dream, because you have to be alseep to believe it"
As I said in my reply on You Tube. "Even if two or three of them had weapons. The proper procedure is to take out the ones with the weapons. Not the ones without. Then subdue the remainder. If any of them makes for a fallen weapon. Then maybe fire at them too. But to fire on wounded people is a violation of the Geneva convention. As well as being immoral".
But as far as I am concerned. We have all witnessed a real war crime here. They are clearly enjoying killing these humans. They should be held accountable under a war crimes tribunal. That full length video as not swayed me from that fact. _________________ "It's called the American Dream, because you have to be alseep to believe it"
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:41 pm Post subject:
acrobat74 wrote:
Frank Freedom wrote:
It's probably a good idea to watch the full 38 minute version:
...then comment,and edit if necessary.
In the interest of saving us some time, can you please summarize your point?
You seem to be suggesting, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the case for shooting was more solid than it seems to be?
I hadn't realised there was the longer 38 minute version,so in the interests of further clarification suggested the longer watch.Notice I did say edit if necessary?
I see (just now) the longer version gives little extra info on the incident and see no reason to edit my initial post.
Is that ok with you Acrobat?
At about 34 minutes the very same crew Crazyhorse 1-8 fire 3 missle into a building because a guy with a weapon enters it.
Are small arms forbidden for Iraqis own personal defence and security in their own country? _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 413 Location: South Essex
Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 10:41 pm Post subject:
Forgot to add: in the long version someone on the ground looking at the bodies confirms (to paraphrase) "Looks like an RPG shell under him".
Which is either an outright ar$e covering lie,or he doesn't know what a camera with a telephoto lens, with accesories looks like.
Sorry you're disappointed D_D,what did you expect? it's not every day we get to see the actual slaughter evidenced on film.Usually they just tell us "suicide bombers" did this,and insurgents did that.This is a powerfull tool, unfortunately I've yet to see it on any TV news channel yet!
Has anyone else seen it on regular TV news? _________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
"One man's freedom fighter, another man's terrorist".
"'cause if another country invaded the hood tonight
it'd be warfare through harlem and washington heights
i wouldnt be fighting for bush or white americas dream
id be fighting for my people, survival and self-esteem
i wouldnt fight for racist churches in the south my nigga
id be fighting to keep the occupation out my nigga"
Immortal Technique(c)
As the words above say. I would protect my family and freedom if America or any other country's army invaded us. Am I a terrorist or freedom fighter? _________________ "It's called the American Dream, because you have to be alseep to believe it"
"Even if two or three of them had weapons. The proper procedure is to take out the ones with the weapons. Not the ones without. Then subdue the remainder. If any of them makes for a fallen weapon. Then maybe fire at them too. But to fire on wounded people is a violation of the Geneva convention. As well as being immoral".
The reply:
"Oh yea, maybe we can just walk up to them an ask them to play nice too. This was done from a helecoptor doing ground support. Its not a sniper rifle from Halo, it the real world. Sorry to say this, but where are these guys when it comes to the Geneva Convention, they laugh at it. These people belive in total war, including strapping bombs on children, you can't trust them to fight fair, you can't take that chance".
This is indicative of the dumbed-down media bs swallowing jerks we have to contend with. _________________ "It's called the American Dream, because you have to be alseep to believe it"
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Posted: Wed Apr 07, 2010 11:16 pm Post subject:
Quote:
I would protect my family and freedom if America or any other country's army invaded us. Am I a terrorist or freedom fighter?
According to your own logic you would agree you were a legitimate target
for execution?:
Quote:
"Even if two or three of them had weapons. The proper procedure is to take out the ones with the weapons. Not the ones without. Then subdue the remainder. If any of them makes for a fallen weapon. Then maybe fire at them too.
_________________ The poster previously known as "Newspeak International"
I would protect my family and freedom if America or any other country's army invaded us. Am I a terrorist or freedom fighter?
According to your own logic you would agree you were a legitimate target
for execution?:
Quote:
"Even if two or three of them had weapons. The proper procedure is to take out the ones with the weapons. Not the ones without. Then subdue the remainder. If any of them makes for a fallen weapon. Then maybe fire at them too.
:wink:
By their immoral standard, we all are at some point. _________________ "It's called the American Dream, because you have to be alseep to believe it"
It's probably a good idea to watch the full 38 minute version:
...then comment,and edit if necessary.
In the interest of saving us some time, can you please summarize your point?
You seem to be suggesting, and correct me if I'm wrong, that the case for shooting was more solid than it seems to be?
I hadn't realised there was the longer 38 minute version,so in the interests of further clarification suggested the longer watch.Notice I did say edit if necessary?
I see (just now) the longer version gives little extra info on the incident and see no reason to edit my initial post.
Is that ok with you Acrobat?
At about 34 minutes the very same crew Crazyhorse 1-8 fire 3 missle into a building because a guy with a weapon enters it.
Are small arms forbidden for Iraqis own personal defence and security in their own country?
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