Hitler attacked priests in his day for financial fraud.
In our times they seem to all be paedophiles.
The Nazi party organised rallies inside Churches.
In our time they have organised protests over a range of single issue themes.
The Nazi party encouraged a return to paganism and by the time they had finished millions no longer believed in Christianity but became Pagans.
In our time they are promoting Richard Dawkins and the God Delusion
Here are some quotes
Night of 11th-12th July, 1941
"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together....
"The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity....
"Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."
10th October, 1941, midday
"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."
14th October, 1941, midday
"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity....
"Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse....
"...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little....
"Christianity the liar....
"We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."
19th October, 1941, night
"The reason why the ancient world was so pure, light and serene was that it knew nothing of the two great scourges: the pox and Christianity."
21st October, 1941, midday
"Originally, Christianity was merely an incarnation of Bolshevism, the destroyer.... "The decisive falsification of Jesus' doctrine was the work of St.Paul. He gave himself to this work... for the purposes of personal exploitation.... "Didn't the world see, carried on right into the Middle Ages, the same old system of martyrs, tortures, faggots? Of old, it was in the name of Christianity. Today, it's in the name of Bolshevism. Yesterday the instigator was Saul: the instigator today, Mardochai. Saul was changed into St.Paul, and Mardochai into Karl Marx. By exterminating this pest, we shall do humanity a service of which our soldiers can have no idea."
13th December, 1941, midnight
"Christianity is an invention of sick brains: one could imagine nothing more senseless, nor any more indecent way of turning the idea of the Godhead into a mockery....
"When all is said, we have no reason to wish that the Italians and Spaniards should free themselves from the drug of Christianity. Let's be the only people who are immunised against the disease."
14th December, 1941, midday
"Kerrl, with noblest of intentions, wanted to attempt a synthesis between National Socialism and Christianity. I don't believe the thing's possible, and I see the obstacle in Christianity itself....
"Pure Christianity-- the Christianity of the catacombs-- is concerned with translating Christian doctrine into facts. It leads quite simply to the annihilation of mankind. It is merely whole-hearted Bolshevism, under a tinsel of metaphysics."
9th April, 1942, dinner
"There is something very unhealthy about Christianity."
27th February, 1942, midday
"It would always be disagreeable for me to go down to posterity as a man who made concessions in this field. I realize that man, in his imperfection, can commit innumerable errors-- but to devote myself deliberately to errors, that is something I cannot do. I shall never come personally to terms with the Christian lie."
"Our epoch in the next 200 years will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity.... My regret will have been that I couldn't... behold .
Neo-paganism being promoted in our days quite forcefully...
World Congress of Ethnic Religions
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The World Congress of Ethnic Religions (WCER) was established in June 1998 in Vilnius. Their primary goal is the strengthening of indigenous ethnic religions and to foster religious tolerance [1]. Their ninth annual conference was held in Jaipur, India on the 5th-10th of February, 2006. Their tenth congress was held in various places in Latvia from June 19th to 21st 2007
Members are mostly European ethnic religious organizations, but the WCER is in principle open to organizations from any continent.
In 1999, member organizations were: The 1999 WCER Congress (official document)
Member organizations which joined at a later date include:
* Eldaring eldaring.de, Germany (2004)
* Foreningen Forn Sed [6], Norway
* Movimento Tradizionale Romano [7] [8], Italy
* Federazione Pagana, Italy
* Pravoslavya, Ukraine
* Gentilitas - Spiritualità Italica [9], Italy
Congresses:
1. Vilnius (1998)
2. Telsiai (1999)
3. Bradesiai (2000)
4. Vilnius (2001), delegates from Vishva Hindu Parishad
5. Vilnius (2002)
6. Vilnius (2003) "Global Initiatives for Ethnic Cultures and Religions"
7. Athens (2004) "The High Values Of The pre-Christian Ethnic Traditions and Religions"
8. Antwerp (2005) "Spirituality and tradition in an anti-traditional world"
9. Jaipur (2006) "Spirituality Beyond Religions", in cooperation with the International Centre of Cultural Studies and the World Congress of Elders of Ancient Cultures and Traditions
10. Latvia (2007) "The spirit will see new light in the turn of ages"
11. Poland (2008)
12. Nagpur (2009)
13. Next : Bologna (2010) "Ethics in Conteporary World" - from 26th to 29th august (Italy)
Foreign Office apologises for Pope 'condom' memo
Pope Benedict XVI
The Pope is due to visit Birmingham and Scotland in September
The Foreign Office has apologised for a "foolish" document which suggested the Pope's visit to the UK could be marked by the launch of "Benedict" condoms.
Called "The ideal visit would see...", it said the Pope could be invited to open an abortion clinic and bless a gay marriage during September's visit.
The Foreign Office stressed the paper, which resulted from a "brainstorm" on the visit, did not reflect its views.
The Bishop of Nottingham said, if anything, it was "appalling manners".
The Rt Rev Malcolm McMahon said: "I think it's a lot worse that we invite someone into our country - a person like the Pope - and then he's treated in this way.
"I think it's appalling manners more than anything else."
The junior civil servant responsible had been put on other duties, the Foreign Office said.
Details of the document emerged after it was obtained by the Sunday Telegraph.
'Song with Queen'
The UK's ambassador to the Vatican, Francis Campbell, has met senior officials of the Holy See to express regret on behalf of the government.
Foreign Secretary David Miliband is said to have been "appalled" by the incident.
Robert Pigott, BBC religious affairs correspondent
It's clear that what the Foreign Office has called "this foolish document" did not reflect government policy. Its tone is clearly frivolous, and it came from junior officials.
But it has, nevertheless, the potential to cause considerable damage. Whether fairly or not, it will leave some Catholics with the impression of a culture within official circles in which their Church's teaching is not taken seriously.
Some will suspect prejudice against faith groups. Perhaps most damaging of all, it could leave an impression that the Pope might be regarded as a figure of fun less than five months before his visit to Britain.
Apart from the pressure on the papal visit from public feeling about sex abuse, and the threat of demonstrations against the Pope, the government needs the Vatican's help in a global diplomatic effort to curb climate change and fight poverty.
How serious and far-reaching the effect of the document is depends partly on how the Church itself responds.
The paper was attached as one of three "background documents" to a memo dated 5 March 2010 inviting officials in Whitehall and Downing Street to attend a meeting to discuss themes for the papal visit.
It suggested Benedict XVI could show his hard line on the sensitive issue of child abuse allegations against Roman Catholic priests by "sacking dodgy bishops" and launching a helpline for abused children.
The document went on to propose the Pope could apologise for the Spanish Armada or sing a song with the Queen for charity.
It listed "positive" public figures who could be made part of the Pope's visit, including former Prime Minister Tony Blair and 2009 Britain's Got Talent runner-up Susan Boyle, and those considered "negative", such as Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney and prominent atheist Richard Dawkins.
The civil servant responsible for sending round the memo said in a cover note: "Please protect; these should not be shared externally. The 'ideal visit' paper in particular was the product of a brainstorm which took into account even the most far-fetched of ideas."
An investigation was launched after some recipients of the memo, said to have been circulated to a restricted list, objected to its tone.
A Foreign Office spokesman said the department was "deeply sorry" for any offence the document had caused.
"This is clearly a foolish document that does not in any way reflect UK government or Foreign Office policy or views. Many of the ideas in the document are clearly ill-judged, naive and disrespectful," he said.
"The text was not cleared or shown to ministers or senior officials before circulation. As soon as senior officials became aware of the document, it was withdrawn from circulation.
"The individual responsible has been transferred to other duties. He has been told orally and in writing that this was a serious error of judgement and has accepted this view."
'Blue-skies thinking'
The Foreign Office said the memo had resulted from discussions by a group of three or four junior staff in a team working on early planning for the papal visit.
A source told the BBC News website the individual since moved to other duties had called the group together for "some blue-skies creative thinking about how to make the visit a success", but their discussions had become "a joke that has gone too far".
The source added that others in the group had been spoken to about the incident, but had not faced any formal action.
I think it's a joke that has gone wrong - light relief that has gone out of control.
Jack Valero, Catholic Voices
Bishop McMahon said he hoped it was meant to be "light hearted".
But he added: "That in itself can be dangerous if these memos move around the departments, they tend to gain momentum."
He said he did not think Catholics would be upset by the memo as they "are used to getting a bad press".
Jack Valero from the organisation Catholic Voices said he was not taking the memo seriously.
"I think it's a joke that has gone wrong - light relief that has gone out of control. And I think Catholics will just take it like this, you know, that they'll think about it today and then they will forget about it."
He said those that have been scarred by abortion would find the joke "a bit thin".
But he added: "In the Catholic church we are used to forgiveness, it's part of our culture to forgive people's mistakes."
Earlier this year the Pope announced 2010 would see the first papal visit to the UK since John Paul II's visit in 1982.
Pope Benedict XVI's visit will take place from 16 to 19 September, during which time he is expected to visit Birmingham, as part of the planned beatification of Cardinal John Newman, and Scotland.
The visit will come in the autumn of what is proving to be a difficult year for the Pope with a wave of allegations that Church authorities in Europe and North and South America failed to deal properly with priests accused of paedophilia.
The Pope himself has been accused of being part of a culture of secrecy and of not taking strong enough steps against paedophiles when he had that responsibility as a cardinal in Rome.
However, his supporters say he has been the most pro-active Pope yet in confronting abuse.
Hardly imo the Third Reich was the Catholic Church _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Socialist.
Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out --
Because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me -- and there was no one left to speak for me.
Martin Niemöller (1892-1984) was an ardent nationalist and prominent Protestant pastor who emerged as an outspoken public foe of Adolf Hitler and spent the last 7 years of Nazi rule in concentration camps.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicolas_Sarkozy
Sarkozy is a Frenchman of mixed national and ethnic ancestry. He is the son of Pál István Ernő Sárközy de Nagy-Bócsa, (Hungarian: nagybócsai Sárközy Pál; some sources spell it Nagy-Bócsay Sárközy Pál István Ernő; About this sound Hungarian pronunciation (help·info) [nɒɟ͡ʝboːt͡ʃɒi ʃaːrkøzi paːl])[6] a Hungarian aristocrat,[7] and Andrée Jeanne "Dadu" Mallah (b. Paris, 12 October 1925), who is of French Catholic and Greek Jewish origin.[8][9] They were married at Saint-François-de-Sales, Paris XVII, on 8 February 1950 and divorced in 1959.[10]
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Andrée Mallah, then a law student, was the daughter of Benedict Mallah, a well-off urological surgeon with a well-established reputation in the mainly bourgeois 17th arrondissement of Paris. Benedict Mallah, originally named Aaron Mallah (and nicknamed Benico), was born in 1890 in the Sephardic Jewish community of Thessaloniki (then part of the Ottoman Empire). The family had originally been from Spain
1.
quo
Latin, meaning: (masc. sing. abl.) (the money) BY means of WHICH he lived.
2.
quo
Latin, meaning: (neut. sing. abl.) (the eagerness) THROUGH WHICH he died.
3.
quo
Latin, meaning: to which place, to what place, whither, where.
(1) "Macbeth": Mac-beth
Is Gaelic and Hebrew
fleece: (3) "Fleance", Plural pronounced, Flay-ance. Normandy 1066 and what was to come. Who was it that came over with the Normans and think of the crusades.
1.
a. The coat of wool of a sheep or similar animal.
b. The yield of wool shorn from a sheep at one time.
2. A soft woolly covering or mass.
3. Fabric with a soft deep pile.
tr.v. fleeced, fleec·ing, fleec·es
1. To defraud of money or property; swindle.
2. To shear the fleece from.
3. To cover with or as if with fleece.
Mac: Son of. Beth: as in Pool of Bethesda.
"The Gospel of John describes a pool in Jerusalem, near the Sheep Gate, which is surrounded by five covered colonnades. It is associated with healing"
"Fleance" to misrepresent the Son of Man, Christ. Which the pool wont heal, or the (3) witches pharmacy and/or sorcery (Neo-paganism etc,etc,) thats always being promoted etc etc.
QUOTE
Sarkozy married his first wife, Marie-Dominique Culioli, on 23 September 1982; her father was a pharmacist from Vico (a village north of Ajaccio, Corsica). They had two sons, Pierre (born in 1985), now a hip-hop producer,[27] and Jean (born in 1986) now a regional councillor in the city of Neuilly-sur-Seine, France. Sarkozy's best man was the prominent right-wing politician Charles Pasqua, later to become a political opponent.[28] Sarkozy divorced Culioli in 1996, although they had already been separated for several years.
I do agree with much of his views but as he is constantly in the limelight can't help wondering the nature of his/or his handlers true agenda :0 _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Joined: 30 Nov 2006 Posts: 575 Location: the eyevolution
Posted: Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject:
I agree with a lot of what Dawkins says.
Religion can be dangerous. But then so can science be.
My difficulty is that Dawkins calls people delusional for believing something that they cant prove exists, and that he cant prove doesn't.
Also, a world in which Darwinism is the fundamental belief system is a eugenicists dream.
I kind of believe in "God" in the same way that Einstein did. There are deep mysteries and a sort of "divinity" to existence which seem to go beyond text books. Including the bible.
Quote:
A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man.
Religion can be dangerous. But then so can science be.
My difficulty is that Dawkins calls people delusional for believing something that they cant prove exists, and that he cant prove doesn't.
Also, a world in which Darwinism is the fundamental belief system is a eugenicists dream.
I kind of believe in "God" in the same way that Einstein did. There are deep mysteries and a sort of "divinity" to existence which seem to go beyond text books. Including the bible.
Quote:
A knowledge of the existence of something we cannot penetrate, of the manifestations of the profoundest reason and the most radiant beauty - it is this knowledge and this emotion that constitute the truly religious attitude; in this sense, and in this alone, I am a deeply religious man.
I agree with much of what you say. But emotion is not God'ly spiritual.
The Bible is a short guide Book.
Quote:
But it is more than a simple skip code. Criss-crossing the entire known text of The Bible, hidden under the original Hebrew of The Old Testament, is a complex network of words and phrases, a new revelation. There is a Bible beneath The Bible.
'It doesn't matter if we're looking in a text of 100 thousand or 100 million letters, you will not find coherent information - except in The Bible.
Quote:
Einstein once said; 'The distinction between past, present and future is only an illusion, however persistent. Time, he said, is not at all what it seems. It does not flow, it exists simultaneously with the past.
Quote:
And the greatest scientist of our time, Albert Einstein, never accepted that the universe was governed by chance. 'Quantum mechanics is certainly imposing,' said Einstein. 'But an inner voice (God) tells me that it is not yet the real thing. The theory says a lot, but does not really bring us any closer to the secret of the "Old One" (The only True Reality - Koran Sura 22:6; etc.*).
* Sura 22:6. This is so, because "I AM" is the Reality: it is He Who gives life to the dead, and it is He Who has power over all things.
22:62. That is because "I AM" - He is the Reality; and those besides Him whom they invoke,- they are but vain Falsehood: verily "I AM" is He, Most High, Most Great.
23:116. Therefore exalted be "I AM", The King, The Reality: there is no God but He, the Lord of the Throne of Honour!
31:30. That is because "I AM" is the (ONLY) Reality, and because whatever else they invoke besides Him is Falsehood (and therefore Fantasy); and because "I AM",- He is the Most High, Most Great.
40:69. Seest thou not those that dispute concerning the Signs of "I AM"? How are they turned away (from Reality)?-
40:70. Those who reject the Book (Bible) and the (Revelations) with which We sent our Apostles: but soon shall they know,-
'God,' said Einstein (the Believer), 'does not play dice.' (and neither should you, with your lives - JAH).
The ones that question the existence. I suppose I'm an atheist always have been, but I am not the kind that doesn't believe in spirituality and or afterlife experiences
I respect everyones beliefs mind you, something Dawkins seems quite unable to do _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Hardly imo the Third Reich was the Catholic Church
Not quite. A closer analysis of history of the 3rd Reich reveals that whilst nazism had a strong base in the south of Germany, ie Bavaria these areas were predominantly Catholic.
Hitler tried to get the population off religion and into ne-paganism. He held rallies of the SS inside Catholic Churches and tried to humilitate the priests exposing financial irregularities etc.
By 1940 around 5 million Germans classified themselves as Pagans.
One of the unnachieved goals of the NWO as is to centralise all religions if they can and then abolish them. There is truly only one God, money.
The recent rallies against the Pope, the promotion of the Sandhurst military advisor who promotes the gay agenda, and the vitriol of the mass media of WMD fame all point to the same goal.
Trouble is with that analogy when we become truly multicultural and then all religion is neutered then that only leaves one thing to fight or hate. The Elite/Oligarchs _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Joined: 14 Dec 2005 Posts: 475 Location: North London
Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2010 8:43 am Post subject: Multicultural what?
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Disco_Destroyer
Trouble is with that analogy when we become truly multicultural and then all religion is neutered then that only leaves one thing to fight or hate.
What do you mean by 'multicultural'? What society on Earth and in history has not been multicultural? Greece was an Ancient Egyptian colony. Christianity came out of Judaism and both came out of Egypt. The basis of the English language is Latin. It's obvious that nations have been 'multicultural'.
When white people use the word 'multicultural', they usually mean 'multi-racial'. So, the issue of Protestantism fusing with Catholicism is being given an emotional charge by the false insertion of race. Or indeed, the notion of 'one religion' is being used to boost the argument against race.
According to stats, the top long-stay migrants into the UK are: (returning Brits), US citizens, South Africans, Australians, New Zealanders, and Chinese and Indian students. No one complains about the white migrants.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:17 pm Post subject:
Druidry recognised as religion in Britain
(AFP) – Sat 2nd October 2010
LONDON — Britain has recognised druidry as an official religion for the first time, thousands of years after the Celtic pagan faith emerged in Europe, the country's charity commission said Saturday.
The Druid Network, an organisation representing the religion in Britain, was granted charitable status in a decision that not only gives it tax breaks but also lets the religion take its place alongside more mainstream beliefs.
"This has been a long hard struggle, taking over five years to complete," the Druid Network said in a statement after its application to be registered as a charity had been accepted by the Charity Commission.
In its ruling on the group's application, the commission said it accepted that druidry was an "ancient pagan religion" in its own right involving the worship of nature, particularly the sun and the earth.
Druid rituals involve "commonality of practice" across the faith including solar and fire festivals, ceremonies at various phases of the moon, seasonal festivals and rites of passage in life.
There had also been some official recognition already, it added, including a provision by Britain's Prison Service for the practice of druidry and the attendance of a pagan chaplain at services.
"The board members concluded that The Druid Network is established for exclusively charitable purposes for the advancement of religion for the public benefit," the Charity Commission said.
Druidry emerged in ancient Ireland and Britain and spread further afield during the Iron Age, especially into France, but became largely supplanted as Christianity took hold across Europe.
In its ruling on the group's application, the commission said it accepted that druidry was an "ancient pagan religion" in its own right involving the worship of nature, particularly the sun and the earth.
"The board members concluded that The Druid Network is established for exclusively charitable purposes for the advancement of religion for the public benefit," the Charity Commission said.
The thing is with this so called druidry is it's more like the beginnings of Celtic and Cornish Baal-worship, that Teia Tephi battled with and had them removed from Ireland back to Cornwall. Because they were hoarding wealth and taxing people and making laws up.
Similar to Babylonian, Roman etc. Also there is mention of the three wise men as Druids and some Romans educated by Druids such as "Pontius Pilate" who said "what is truth" to Jesus and found Him in no fault, with Him Jesus. The word Druid means "Truth"
"The word Newgrange is derived from New Grianan which means New Sunhouse and it was built by, and is the tomb of, Aengus the Ard ri (High-king) of Tara, who reigned in the latter-half of the sixth century B.C. and whose name is carved in Ogham Script on Stone C4 in the West Recess inside the tomb."
"Winter Solstice (the original pagan Yuletide) that was believed to be the time both of death and rebirth, in pagan Baal-worship, and so the tomb was lined up in order that Aengus could be reborn when the sun (worshipped as a god by Baal-worshippers) pierced his tomb and the beam of light touched his remains."
Where as the Druids (Stone Henge) were some of the Levitical Priesthood and like Teia Tephi were practising the Torah as best they knew how.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 9:26 pm Post subject:
An acquaintance of mine was a Druid in the 1990s and remarked that he was fed up with the freemasons taking over what for him and many was 'just a bit of fun'.
These masons take it far to seriously and are killing our group - he said.
Well it seems only the undead get approval from the Charity Commission these days.
Nice to see enlightened group of doctors lobbying the GMC. A human rights programme fighting for 'the right to die'.
Fits it with the austerity era packages of the EU-IMF.
Wont have to pay pensions and other state bills then.
Who was it that said we only require around 300million on earth?
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 10:36 am Post subject:
Religion itself can be a force for good when the prophet's spirit is embodied in a value system and in a religious service.
How about religious cults are dangerous?
As we know both the Church of England and the Catholic Church are targets of cult infiltration. Pagan idolatrous Freemasonry entirely runs all the higher levels of the Church of England now.
Christ's and teachings are lost in a neopagan hulabaloo.
And, with Rowan Williams, a Druid, at the helm they pretend to wonder why their pagan mock Churches are empty.
GodSaveTheTeam wrote:
Religion can be dangerous. But then so can science be.
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