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Posted: Thu Sep 23, 2010 8:53 pm Post subject: Ahmadinejad tells U.N. most blame U.S. government for 9/11
UN - Iranian President says 9/11 was Work of America
US Walks Out Of Ahmadinejad Speech
Delegates from the US walked out of the UN during a speech by the Iranian President, after he suggested 9/11 was the work of America to save Israel.
http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/us_walks_out_of_ahmadinejad_s_un_ speech?sid=000aa51b3adc _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
As discussion over Iran's nuclear program takes the floor at a UN meeting in New York, a media blitz against it has been launched in Manhattan. The main target of the costly ad campaign is President Ahmadinejad himself.
No wonder they organised the Mosque circus with CIA connections in the previous period to forestall Ahmedhinajds statements which given on home turf are incendiary.
But America is bankrupt, economically politically and morally. On the basis of false premises, WMD's, Bin Laden they have launched two wars killing thousands including their own. The fact that all they can do is walk out when confronted with their own hubris, is an indication that they are on their way out.
They just haven't announced yet to the world as its a difficult sell.
Video from mediaite.com
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad spoke to the United Nations General Assembly this afternoon, sharing some rather provocative rhetoric over the United States worst terrorist attack in history. Ahmadinejad suggested to the assembled diplomats, ambassadors and world leaders that the events that occurred on 9/11 were actually orchestrated by the U.S. Government.. This prompted the U.S. delegation to abruptly leave the assembly hall while many other national delegates followed suit.
Writing for the Associated Press, Ali Akbar Dareini reports: The U.S. delegation has walked out of the U.N. speech of Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad after he said some in the world have speculated that Americans were actually behind the Sept. 11 terror attacks, staged in an attempt to assure Israel’s survival. He did not explain the logic of that statement that was made as he attacked the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. The Iranian leader spoke of threats to burn the Quran by U.S. religious groups, calling that an act of “evil.” He held up a copy of the Muslim holy book, saying “the truth cannot be burned.”
http://www.mediaite.com/online/mahmoud-ahmadinejad-tells-u-n-general-a ssembly-911-was-an-inside-job/
Wakey don't fall for the West's desperate propaganda
I see no madness in Ahmadinejad
Edit* When I say West I mean our very own Queens of course
Keep Calm and Carry On _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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uh-oh. Come the war on Iran there will be an immediate clamp down on 9/11 Truth - since it shows you to be an Iranian sympathizer if not an Iranian spy. Say goodbye to Middleabbotsbury, Surreyshire and say hello to Guantanamo. At least your friends and family will be there too!
and a good morning to you
Oh well spose we could pack bags ready could be alot of us wonder what seaside town they choose _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:46 am Post subject: It's the Icke Syndrome - don't you get it?!
Tony Gosling wrote:
Quote:
so I take it you didn't read the speech then
I don't need to. Ahmadinnerjacket must have simply pointed out what we all know - i.e. the bleeding obvious about 9/11 - but that's hardly the point. The point, and it is truly amazing that people don't get this, is that with friends like mad Mahmoud who needs enemies?
It's the Icke Syndrome. You have someone who is a liability latching themselves onto an issue which is a serious matter and a campaign which really does not need people as either full of sh*t as Icke ("Lizards" - End. Of. Story. . . . sorry) or as unhinged and Fascist as I'madinnerjacket. It's the kiss of death. You can almost hear the Neo-Cons and the Fascists and the Black-ops guys and the Corporate demons cheering over their breakfasts when they read the headline (AHMADINEJAD SUPPORTS 9/11 TRUTH) - it's great News for them and another set-back for us.
There's even someone on this post saying that Mad Mahmoud is not mad. Amazing. Mahmoud presides over an unhinged, brutal, misogynist theocracy which routinely hangs its own citizens from cranes in the streets. He's about as mad as you can get. He's proper gaga. Just like his religion and his poisonous government - and that's not a bit bonkers?
For most people I know, who still accept the official story, the only "evidence" they need, is the "accusation" that Muslims did it! 9/11 to them is the big excuse to hate Muslims and everything they read in the media - including on Iran - mearly reinforces their bigoty.
Note: No one calls the Israeli Prime Minister mad, when he speaks utter garbage. Of course the Iraninan President isn't the greatest guy in the world but then neither is President Obama!
I fed up of people being over sensitive about what people say or who says it. As long as they don't prepose that laser beams fired from space bought down the twin towers, it's fine with me. Remember the old saying? All publicity, is good publisicty.
Let stop echoing some of the bigoty, we're fed daily by the MSM! And as for the general public, some will wake up when the story gets in their face long enough for them to investigate it. For the rest they will always be ignorant of the facts - sometimes because they prefer it that way. Forget them... we don't need them!
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 1:41 pm Post subject: Re: It's the Icke Syndrome - don't you get it?!
Wakeymedia wrote:
Tony Gosling wrote:
Quote:
so I take it you didn't read the speech then
I don't need to. Ahmadinnerjacket must have simply pointed out what we all know - i.e. the bleeding obvious about 9/11 - but that's hardly the point. The point, and it is truly amazing that people don't get this, is that with friends like mad Mahmoud who needs enemies?
..................
There's even someone on this post saying that Mad Mahmoud is not mad. Amazing. Mahmoud presides over an unhinged, brutal, misogynist theocracy which routinely hangs its own citizens from cranes in the streets. He's about as mad as you can get. He's proper gaga. Just like his religion and his poisonous government - and that's not a bit bonkers?
Get real.
I'm with wakeymedia on this.
If Ahmadinnerjacket is not a stooge faithfully acting out the alloted "mad mullah" stereotype that the Western politicians and media are so keen to assign him, then he is doing a bloody good job acting as if he is.
The west needs its regular conveybelt of bogeymen around the world that it can lampoon and demonise. How can it portray itself as the 'voice of reason', the 'world's policeman', the international community' and the forces of 'freedom' and 'democracy' without these tyrrants to play theiir bogeyman role: think Hitler, think Saddam, think Mugabe, think HutuPower, etc, etc. Who manipulated events to put these people and kept these people in power in the first place. The west
And IMO so it is with Ahmadinnerjacket. What purpose was served by his holocaust denial conference in which he gave a platform to David Duke? What purpose did his comments again at the UN about him supposedly being guided by the 12th imam
To me a main purpose is these events is so that when he repeats his call for a reinvestigation of 9/11 it can be dismissed as the rantings of a bigotted, american hating, looney
There's even someone on this post saying that Mad Mahmoud is not mad. Amazing. Mahmoud presides over an unhinged, brutal, misogynist theocracy which routinely hangs its own citizens from cranes in the streets. He's about as mad as you can get. He's proper gaga. Just like his religion and his poisonous government - and that's not a bit bonkers?
officially the Islamic Republic of Iran
The economy of Iran is the sixteenth largest economy in the world by purchasing power parity (PPP). Iran's economy is a mixture of central planning, state ownership of oil and other large enterprises, village agriculture, and small-scale private trading and service ventures.[155] Its economic infrastructure has been improving steadily over the past two decades but continues to be affected by inflation and unemployment.[156] In the early 21st century the service sector contributed the largest percentage of the GDP, followed by industry (mining and manufacturing) and agriculture. In 2006, about 45% of the government's budget came from oil and natural gas revenues, and 31% came from taxes and fees.[157]
Amazing. Mahmoud presides over an unhinged, brutal, misogynist theocracy which routinely hangs its own citizens from cranes in the streets.
and of course you have proof of this?
The only sketchy video I saw could have for all I know be made by some loonies in Texas
How can anyone question 9/11 without putting their own nations bog standard propaganda tactics under scrutiny? _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
The week-long 2010 United Nations General Assembly conference is set to begin Sept. 23 and will continue until Sept. 30 at the UN headquarters in New York. Many believe that the UNGA is nothing more than theatrics and that nothing substantial will be accomplished there. Including Paul Craig Roberts who says that the UN is a showcase for US propaganda and allows the US to attempt to extend its influence and reach.
_________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 8:35 pm Post subject: Re: It's the Icke Syndrome - don't you get it?!
ian neal wrote:
To me a main purpose is these events is so that when he repeats his call for a reinvestigation of 9/11 it can be dismissed as the rantings of a bigotted, american hating, looney
We should also dismiss Casto and Chavez for voicing similar sentiments as being ...american hating looneys.
The change from those who allege they want 9/11 truth to hit centre stage is that Cleggover was in New York at the time and the pseudo anti-war credentials of his party and the walkout of the British delegation in solidarity with the Americans was a step too far...
We now have various epithets against Ahmedinajad like the racist ones on here of ...mad mullahs. The type of nonsense that they said about Arabs during 9/11 and its aftermath.
At least with a time delay of nearly 10 years someone told the Yanks on their own turf they did 9/11 and its bs.
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Posted: Fri Sep 24, 2010 9:31 pm Post subject:
33 delegations walked out after Ahmedinejad told the truth about 9/11!
But what about the 159 who stayed? It would be interesting to know if he got a standing ovation, or at least a good round of clapping. I've looked around web a bit, but can't find any info on response to his talk, other than the rantings of 'Pravda US/UK' MSM.
Any one even got the full list of walkouts? Costa Rica was one that was reported - if President Laura Chinchilla climbs any higher up Uncle Sam's backside, she'll choke him! I wonder if Ms. Chinchilla has joined the CFR yet? Anyone seen her at the Bilderberg meetings?
Recently, she allowed 7,000 US Marines to enter Costa Rica, to tackle the 'Drug Problem' (along with 46 ships off-shore!!!!).
All aimed, of course, at Venezuela, along with NATO activity in the Dutch Antilles (including violating Venezuela's airspace), re-commissioning the 4th Fleet (mothballed after WWII) and leasing 7 bases from Colombia.
Like Iran, Venezuela has lots of lovely oil. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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You can certainly hear clapping at the end here.
Camera pans across the crowd too.
Iran's president sparked a mass walk-out by US delegates yesterday after telling a UN summit that most people believe the American government was behind the 9/11 attacks.
Link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4phNuwx8Hs _________________ --
'Suppression of truth, human spirit and the holy chord of justice never works long-term. Something the suppressors never get.' David Southwell
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Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
All I know about the Iranian President is what I've read in the MSM! Enough said!
At least ONE head of state had the balls to say this in the UN.
All the other country apart from the Axis of Evil (the non neo-liberal economies - Iran - North Korea - Cuba?) are joined at the hip to America. It like a lonatic asylum gone mainstream!
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:03 am Post subject:
Whitehall_Bin_Men wrote:
You can certainly hear clapping at the end here.
Camera pans across the crowd too.
Iran's president sparked a mass walk-out by US delegates yesterday after telling a UN summit that most people believe the American government was behind the 9/11 attacks.
Thanks, W_B_M!
Pretty good speech from a 'madman'! And a good and well-deserved clap from the great majority of delegates who, unlike the Dracula-like pro-Western delegates, fleeing from the Truth like Drac flees from the sunlight, are not afraid of the Truth (notice the gum-chewing Brit delegate? About time our delegates started wearing stetson hats, and swigging Buds and Jack Daniels).
Before anyone brings it up, let me say I abhor the torture and public executions in Iran; I am confident those issues would be addressed by an Iran that was not under the extreme pressure that the West puts it under, largely due to Zionist virtual control of Western Governments and Media. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Applause for Ahmadinejad
September 23, 2010 - 5:39 PM | by: Eric Shawn
He was greeted by applause when he walked into the United Nations General Assembly, and applauded again, even after questioning 9/11 and claiming that the American government may have been behind the attack.
That’s right, applauded after questioning the motivation for the terrorist attacks, who was responsible for them, and essentially suggesting they were a U.S. plot.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has made a variety of claims over the years during his appearances here, but he never has gone this far when talking about 9/11.
During his General Assembly address, the Iranian President called for a “U.N. fact finding group” to investigate 9/11.
He also said that ”the majority of the American people as well as most nations and politicians around the world” believe that “some segments within the U.S. government orchestrated the attack to reverse the declining of the American economy and its grips on the Middle East in order to save the Zionist regime.”
Before his speech, the Obama administration must have had high hopes that Ahmadinejad would have listened to the offers of diplomacy as presented by the administration and its allies on the Security Council. Members of the U.S. delegation remained in their seats. In years past, only what is called a “low-level note taker” has often been posted behind the little plastic “United States” sign, when Ahmadinejad took the stage.
On Tuesday, when Ahmadinejad spoke during the global summit on poverty, the American delegation remained even as he predicted the defeat of capitalism.
But true to form, he quickly went over the line with his 9/11 remarks and that prompted the U.S. diplomats, and others, to get up and walk out.
“ It’s outrageous,” said State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley. “a short distance from here, nine years ago, three-thousand people were killed in an attack perpetrated by nineteen people, and an attack that was orchestrated by Al Qaeda. We know exactly who did it, they’ve admitted it, the facts are not in dispute, so for the President of Iran to come here and make the suggestion that somehow this was an American plot, is simply outrageous.”
But as Ahmadinejad walked from the podium, he did so rewarded by applause in the august chamber of the world body.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 12:57 pm Post subject: Re: It's the Icke Syndrome - don't you get it?!
It was a brilliant speech.
And in the face of such NATO fascism and terrorising of his lone scapegoated oil rich victim nation.
I know you're an atheist and that's all that's driving this but.....
You do need to start listening ..... if you want to stay Wakey.
You sound like a fool writing off thousands of years of Persian culture.
You sound like a NeoCon.
Ian Neal condemning the truth being told at the most important forum in the world has truly lost it. The Iranians are sorting the men form the boys.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 1:06 pm Post subject:
It was said that some three thousands people were killed on the 11th September for which we are all very saddened. Yet, up until now, in Afghanistan and Iraq hundreds of thousands of people have been killed, millions wounded and displaced and the conflict is still going on and expanding.
In identifying those responsible for the attack, there were three viewpoints.
1- That a very powerful and complex terrorist group, able to successfully cross all layers of the American intelligence and security, carried out the attack. This is the main viewpoint advocated by American statesmen.
2- That some segments within the U.S. government orchestrated the attack to reverse the declining American economy and its grips on the Middle East in order also to save the Zionist regime. The majority of the American people as well as other nations and politicians agree with this view.
3- It was carried out by a terrorist group but the American government supported and took advantage of the situation. Apparently, this viewpoint has fewer proponents. The main evidence linking the incident was a few passports found in the huge volume of rubble and a video of an individual whose place of domicile was unknown but it was announced that he had been involved in oil deals with some American officials. It was also covered up and said that due to the explosion and fire no trace of
the suicide attackers was found.
There remain, however, a few questions to be answered:
1- Would it not have been sensible that first a thorough investigation should have been conducted by independent groups to conclusively identify the elements involved in the attack and then map out a rational plan to take measures against them?
2- Assuming the viewpoint of the American government, is it rational to launch a classic war through widespread deployment of troops that led to the death of hundreds of thousands of people to counter a terrorist group?
3- Was it not possible to act the way Iran countered the Riggi terrorist group who killed and wounded 400 innocent people in Iran. In the Iranian operation no innocent person was hurt. It is proposed that the United Nations set up an independent fact-finding group for the event of the 11 September so that in the future expressing views about it is not forbidden.
Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 2:17 pm Post subject: Re: It's the Icke Syndrome - don't you get it?!
TonyGosling wrote:
Ian Neal condemning the truth being told at the most important forum in the world has truly lost it. The Iranians are sorting the men form the boys.
I'm not condemning him for this speech. Not for the first time Tony you read what you want to read.
I'm pointing out that this is the first time that the MSM has featured the 9/11 truth calls on the 10 o/c news. The first time. Of course they could have featured it a million times before following other news worthy events like press conferences by the families and so forth. But no they choose to ignore those events. Then after 9 years this.
And who is the messenger? A man who hosts a holocaust denial conference, a man who invites David Duke former KKK grand wizard to share the platform. FFS. Where is your bs antennae?
9/11 truth movement has an impressive and growing list of credible spokespeople, headed by the family campaigners.
Ahmadinejad's credibility is so damaged that this allows them (the MSM) to just dismiss 9/11 truth. That is no accident.
IMO opinion his credibility is rightly damaged, and that's not just me swallowing the mainstream propaganda on Ahmadinejad like some nieve fool.
'Denial' Conference? wow what side of the fence are some on here?
His credibility in the West is Painted by the West _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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I wish to announce here that next year the Islamic Republic of Iran will host a conference to study terrorism and the means to confront it. I invite officials, scholars, thinkers, researchers and research institutes of all countries to attend this conference.
I will be very interested to see how this pans out. Who will be given a platform? Who accepts an invitation and who turns it down?
If the equivalents of David Duke within the 9/11 truth movement are invited (and I see no reason why Ahmadinejad would not, seeing as how he invited David Duke to his holocaust conference) it will be used by the MSM to hammer the wider movement and distract attention away from any credible attempts to put 9/11 truth in the spotlight during the 10th anniversary year.
'Denial' Conference? wow what side of the fence are some on here?
His credibility in the West is Painted by the West
When it comes to the holocaust I'm on a different side of the fence to David Duke, a former KKK grand wizard and anyone who gives him and his views a platform. How about you?
'Denial' Conference? wow what side of the fence are some on here?
His credibility in the West is Painted by the West
When it comes to the holocaust I'm on a different side of the fence to David Duke, a former KKK grand wizard and anyone who gives him and his views a platform. How about you?
I’m on the side that says that a certain group of people planed the murder of some (A relatively small group compared to the wars) of their own people and distracted attention away from themselves by saying it was done by Nazi’s when those people are the Nazi’s, Marxist racist atheist et al. And we could still have another false flag with many Jews in Palestine that could be murdered en masse by……… anything to detract attention away from the perps.
How about you Ian Neal, do you think this is important?
The holocaust victims accuse Jewish war criminals
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/
Do these words of the Zionists represent YOU?
Read the words of the Zionists and decide for yourself if Zionism represents your interests and beliefs.
Words of the Zionists - Today's Quote
Dr. Chaim Weizmann
In the Zionist Congress which took place in London in 1937, Dr. Weizmann established the line of policy with his words:
"The hopes of Europe's [...] Jews are centered on emigration. I was asked, 'Can you bring six million Jews to Palestine?'I replied, 'No'....From the depths of the tragedy I want to save two million young people...The old ones will pass. They will bear their fate or they will not. They were dust, economic and moral dust in a cruel world...Only the branch of the young shall survive...They have to accept it."
...Holocaust Victims Accuse, pp 25.
Chaim Weizmann reporting to the Zionist Congress in 1937 on his testimony before the Peel Commission in London, July 1937. Cited in Yahya, p. 55.
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Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 3:54 pm Post subject:
Ordure! Ordure! We are going too far here.
Let those who oppose Ahmedinajad oppose, and those who support, support.
No es probleme.
Let's not get carried away. I am no 'Holocaust Denier', yet I welcome Ahmedinajad's speech. Also, his speech where he was ACCUSED of threatening to wipe out Israel, or pushing it into the sea, or whatever, has been shown to have been (deliberately, obviously) misinterpreted.
Tell me ONE recent Western leader who could give such a speech, so full of Truth.
But, please, Tony, don't go overboard.
We can handle genuine dissent.
Truce declared! Drink up, lads and lasses!
The MSM en masse broached the Taboo subject of 9/11 being anything other than a OBL job. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Here is my comment (including typo on 'published'), in case it gets deleted; if it doesn't, it may open up some interesting posts (though they are likely to be 'ad hominem' or whatever the term is):
It’s about time some International leader told the truth (or ‘Troof’, as ‘Harry’ would ‘ave it) about 9/11.
Instead of denunciations, how about a bit of honest discussion?
And while we’re at it, let’s discuss the Israeli attack on the USS Liberty in 1967.
And no, I don’t expect my comment will be pulished.
London E1 _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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