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 Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:03 am Post subject: Raise 9/11 with Left-Get Labelled ...'Holocaust Denier' |
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Some on the comments on a forum after an article about 9/11.
No wonder they are labelled the gatekeepers of the 'war on terror' and state sponsored terrorism....
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And for the record I despise the so-called “9-11 Truthers” who spend more time on ridiculous conspiracy theories than having any real concern for the victims or those still dying from being first responders while breathing in the toxic dust.) |
One could take the above statement to imply you are an anti-arab racist, for the central premise of 9/11 is that Arabs did it.
What is actually ridiculous is to believe that Building 7 the third skyscraper on the day, collapsed half an hour later after it was announced, on a BBC live report.
If one is to take the fall of the twin towers as being the work of Al Quaeda one also has to accept that the burning of the Reichstag in Hitlers rise to power was the work of a so called Dutch communist. The immigrants are always to blame and if they are Arab there is an open and shut case.
There are commitees against 9/11 in particular architechts and engineers who doubt the possibility of skyscrapers collapsing in freefall speed. Its easy to dismiss people as conspiracists, its makes the world simple to understand, but there is always the story of Nero who burnt Rome, in order to control it.
Fri 10, September 2010 @ 23:22
VN Gelis said…
Left-Leaning Despisers of the 9/11 Truth Movement: Do You Really Believe in Miracles?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20039
Tue 14, September 2010 @ 19:13
bill j said…
Or put it another way - the 9/11 Truth Movement are bonkers.
Tue 14, September 2010 @ 19:50
Thu 30, September 2010 @ 20:24
Dave B said…
Bill J, I am "weird" enough to have shown that VN Gelis supported the Holocaust Denialism
http://www.permanentrevolution.net/entry/3134#comments |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 9:04 am Post subject: Re: Raise 9/11 with Left-Get Labelled ...'Holocaust Denier' |
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| conspiracy analyst wrote: | Some on the comments on a forum after an article about 9/11.
No wonder they are labelled the gatekeepers of the 'war on terror' and state sponsored terrorism....
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And for the record I despise the so-called “9-11 Truthers” who spend more time on ridiculous conspiracy theories than having any real concern for the victims or those still dying from being first responders while breathing in the toxic dust.) |
One could take the above statement to imply you are an anti-arab racist, for the central premise of 9/11 is that Arabs did it.
What is actually ridiculous is to believe that Building 7 the third skyscraper on the day, collapsed half an hour later after it was announced, on a BBC live report.
If one is to take the fall of the twin towers as being the work of Al Quaeda one also has to accept that the burning of the Reichstag in Hitlers rise to power was the work of a so called Dutch communist. The immigrants are always to blame and if they are Arab there is an open and shut case.
There are commitees against 9/11 in particular architechts and engineers who doubt the possibility of skyscrapers collapsing in freefall speed. Its easy to dismiss people as conspiracists, its makes the world simple to understand, but there is always the story of Nero who burnt Rome, in order to control it.
Fri 10, September 2010 @ 23:22
VN Gelis said…
Left-Leaning Despisers of the 9/11 Truth Movement: Do You Really Believe in Miracles?
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=20039
Tue 14, September 2010 @ 19:13
bill j said…
Or put it another way - the 9/11 Truth Movement are bonkers.
Tue 14, September 2010 @ 19:50
Thu 30, September 2010 @ 20:24
Dave B said…
Bill J, I am "weird" enough to have shown that VN Gelis supported the Holocaust Denialism
http://www.permanentrevolution.net/entry/3134#comments |
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| Posted: Fri Oct 01, 2010 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Judging by my experience with Leftist UK activists is that I've never seen a more indoctrinated bunch 
Might as well be dealing with the actual Intelligence Agencies imo
Now there is a thought 
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| Posted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 10:45 am Post subject: UK left - knobbled |
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The UK left are probably the most heavily infiltrated by secret services out of all the european countries for whatever reason. the cia wanted to make sure there would never be a Harold Wilson again ie a prime minister that wouldnt go along with a war instigated by america. Wilson made sure we were kept out of vietnam. America was furious. It is in their interests to keep the UK left divide amongst themselves, some groups to be run like a religious cult, have some useful agents provocateurs in their midst, etc
Recommended historical background reading is Phillip Agee (ex CIA whistleblower) his book on the CIA and WEstern Europe
I doubt if most leftists groups are aware of the problem. Maybe those who are risk being labelled and silenced by accusations of being conspiracy nuts. Wouldnt be surprised.
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William Blum attempts to defuse the linkage here:-
http://killinghope.org/bblum6/aer86.html
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The 9/11 Truth Movement
The Truthers have long been pressing me to express my support for their cause. Here's how I stand on the issue. I'm very aware of the serious contradictions and apparent lies in the Official Government Version (OGV) of what happened on that fateful day. (Before the Truthers can be dismissed as "conspiracy theorists", it should be noted that the OGV is literally a "conspiracy theory" about the fantastic things that a certain 19 men conspired to do.) It does appear that the buildings in New York collapsed essentially because of a controlled demolition, which employed explosives as well as certain incendiary substances found in the rubble. So, for this and many other questions raised by the 9/11 Truth Movement, the OGV can clearly not be taken entirely at face value but has to be seriously examined point by point. But no matter what the discrepancies in the OGV, does it necessarily follow that the events of 9/11 were an "inside job"? Is it an either/or matter? Either a group of terrorists were fully responsible or the government planned it all down to the last detail?
What if the government, with its omnipresent eyes and ears, discovered the plotting of Mideast terrorists some time before and decided to let it happen - and even enhance the destruction - to make use of it as a justification for its "War on Terror"? The Truthers admit that they can't fully explain what actually took place, but they argue that they are not obliged to do so; that they have exposed the government lies and that the fact of these lies proves that it was an inside job. The Truthers have done great work, but I say that for me, and I'm sure for many others, to accept the idea of an inside job I have to indeed know what actually took place, or at least a lot more than I know now. It is, after all, an incredible story, and I need to know how the government pulled it off. I need to have certain questions answered, amongst which are the following:
1. Were the planes that hit the towers hijacked?
2. Did they contain the passengers named amongst the dead?
3. Were they piloted or were they flying via remote control?
4. If piloted, who were the pilots?
5. Did a plane crash in Pennsylvania? If so, why? What happened to the remains of the plane and the passengers?
6. Did a plane crash into the Pentagon? What happened to the remains of the plane and the passengers?
7. Why do Truthers say that some, or many, of the named Arabic hijackers have been found alive living abroad? Why couldn't their identity have been stolen by the hijackers?
If the Truthers can't answer any or most of the above questions, are they prepared to consider the possibility of 9/11 being a "let-it-happen" government operation? |
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"Holocaust denier barred from leading tour at Auschwitz". That was the headline over a short news item in the Washington Post on September 22. The story, in full, read: "British historian and Holocaust-denier David Irving will not be permitted to give tours at Poland's Auschwitz-Birkenau State Museum, museum officials said Tuesday after the controversial historian arrived in Poland to lead a tour of Nazi sites. Irving told the British Daily Mail on Friday that Treblinka was a genuine death camp but that Auschwitz was a 'Disney-style tourist attraction'." ... ... ... |
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David Irving has probably got direct connections with the secret service.
So has Le Pen who as a military man in Algeria worked for the colonial ancient regime.
In order to justify a law one requires the opposite to exist. If it didn't exist it had to be fabricated or promoted. State sponsored terrorism isn't one sided. In other words they dont just plant the bombs and do the blowing ups. They also manufacture the opposition from 'radical islamists' whose speeches are vetted by MI5 ('mad mullah Hamza') to a whole range of what they call ...
'holocaust deniers'.
Each process serves a purpose. Cash raising for the Israeli airbase every now and then in Europe, or maintaining strict guidelines on cold war anti-russian propaganda (Anthony Beevor who wrote that the Russian army was a bunch of rapists, ie what Goebells had done in the actual war over Katyn) |
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