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New wtc7 vid : Firefighters expect it will collapse

 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 04, 2010 11:52 pm    Post subject: New wtc7 vid : Firefighters expect it will collapse Reply with quote


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Difficult one this.

If the firefighters expected it to collpase it still doesn't account for NIST'S "freefall" admission and the total symmetrical collpase.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not seen that video before do we know its genuine? In fact its the clearest footage i have ever seen. If firefighters expected it to collapse how did the reporter get within 10ft of it. It was cordoned off.

Funny how this vid clip comes out just around the time Architects and Engineers are showing Building What ad on television.

Why does the clip end with reporter saying "take a look" then it cuts off. Is there more?

Also doesnt explain why so few people had heard of Building 7 or were they all watching other networks.

Lots of questions but still looks like a controlled demo to me

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does n't seem to have the pyroclastic dust cloud and residue around ....nice clean streets !
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 10:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the provenance of this particular clip, GStT? I can find no reference to it at archive.org.

No reference anywhere, if this is genuinely a public broadcast on 9/11... The reporter's name is a bit suspect, too ;-)

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

All good points raised here about this clip.

I'm not sure where exactly the video is from or when T9/11. You'd have to ask the vid's poster MrBrit who runs resistance radio I suppose.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

interesting
as is this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=II5qoftkxNg


firefighters discussing the building falling over towards them and causing damage... and possible 'pulling' of the building to prevent this

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 07, 2010 11:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is massive
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLvDcO1qAq8

get it saved to ur drive before it gets removed

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 1:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TimmyG wrote:
interesting
as is this


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firefighters discussing the building falling over towards them and causing damage... and possible 'pulling' of the building to prevent this



Couldnt hear the pull it reference. Doesnt make sense why firefighters would use a demolition term and how would it be wired up in so short aspace of time? What it does show in places is that a lot of floors had no fires on.

Consider- if the building had been "pre wired" for a CD then wouldnt the fires that were there have caused damage to the wiring or cutter charges or even caused an irregular predetonation resulting in a non uniform collapse. Of course any wiring or explosives could have been hidden in areas that may have had some fire protection

Also. If 7 was to be included by the perps in the original plan why the lack of publicity-- possibly because the 3rd plane (if there was to be one) didnt get there to hit 7. Perhaps the sudden release of previously censored or controlled WTC7 footage is to try and diffuse the AE911truth Building What? tv ad

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like we have Mr Gourley to thank for the newly released clips:-

http://www.ae911truth.org/en/news/41-articles/401-little-known-911-tru th-organization-strikes-gold.html

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... ... ...The treasure trove of data that the International Center for 9/11 Studies has worked so hard to obtain is waiting earnestly for a few good men and women to sift through it, and unearth all the information that has been buried for years. Anyone with Internet access now has the potential to make discoveries that will bring us closer to justice for the victims of that fateful day more than nine years ago.


I wonder if NIST have had time to doctor their offerings? Looks entirely feasible judging how long they have been dragging their heels, Bush-fashion, over the FOIA releases...

Anyway - plenty of work here for back room archivists ;-)

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In addition to these, a video recorded after the collapse of the Twin Towers was released, in which Michael Hess, the Corporation Counsel for New York City, can be seen calling for help from the 8th floor of WTC Building 7. This footage further corroborates the testimony of Barry Jennings, the former Deputy Emergency Manager of the New York City Housing Authority, who reported that he and Hess were trapped on the 8th floor after an explosion inside the building destroyed the stairwell beneath them.

A very evocative clip- just the sort that would make excellent viewing but oh no this ones been well hidden



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PostPosted: Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=170XJFF2KTQ&feature=related

See a det charge go off on left side of tower
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 7:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Couldnt hear the pull it reference. Doesnt make sense why firefighters would use a demolition term and how would it be wired up in so short aspace of time? What it does show in places is that a lot of floors had no fires on.

Consider- if the building had been "pre wired" for a CD then wouldnt the fires that were there have caused damage to the wiring or cutter charges or even caused an irregular predetonation resulting in a non uniform collapse. Of course any wiring or explosives could have been hidden in areas that may have had some fire protection

Also. If 7 was to be included by the perps in the original plan why the lack of publicity-- possibly because the 3rd plane (if there was to be one) didnt get there to hit 7. Perhaps the sudden release of previously censored or controlled WTC7 footage is to try and diffuse the AE911truth Building What? tv ad


Fish; as I'm sure you know (maybe you are just trying to spark debate?):

1 The 'pull it' reference was by Larry Silverstein, on many vids on this board. Were you expecting one on this vid?

2 As for getting the bulding wired in such a short time, we all know it was pre-wired as controlled demolition takes weeks or even months of preparation

3 And as for '... then wouldnt the fires that were there have caused damage to the wiring or cutter charges or even caused an irregular predetonation ...'. Perhaps the B7 fires were caused by the original detonations, and the latter ones failed to go off on schedule, hence the pre-announcement of B7 collapse on CNN and the BBC

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2010 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Couldnt hear the pull it reference. Doesnt make sense why firefighters would use a demolition term and how would it be wired up in so short aspace of time? What it does show in places is that a lot of floors had no fires on.

Consider- if the building had been "pre wired" for a CD then wouldnt the fires that were there have caused damage to the wiring or cutter charges or even caused an irregular predetonation resulting in a non uniform collapse. Of course any wiring or explosives could have been hidden in areas that may have had some fire protection

Also. If 7 was to be included by the perps in the original plan why the lack of publicity-- possibly because the 3rd plane (if there was to be one) didnt get there to hit 7. Perhaps the sudden release of previously censored or controlled WTC7 footage is to try and diffuse the AE911truth Building What? tv ad


Fish; as I'm sure you know (maybe you are just trying to spark debate?):

1 The 'pull it' reference was by Larry Silverstein, on many vids on this board. Were you expecting one on this vid?
I was commenting on TimmyG comment that you could hear the firemen discussing "pulling " the building on the video

2 As for getting the bulding wired in such a short time, we all know it was pre-wired as controlled demolition takes weeks or even months of preparation
Exactly : I was doubting the original comment by TimmyG

3 And as for '... then wouldnt the fires that were there have caused damage to the wiring or cutter charges or even caused an irregular predetonation ...'. Perhaps the B7 fires were caused by the original detonations, and the latter ones failed to go off on schedule, hence the pre-announcement of B7 collapse on CNN and the BBC

Why would the original detonators have gone off-- no plane hit the building. Planes and ensuing fires were the cover for the "collapse"
Do we know when the first fires started in B7? One would presume very shortly after the B1 and B2 collapses if caused by debris

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2010 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fish5133 wrote:
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Do we know when the first fires started in B7? One would presume very shortly after the B1 and B2 collapses if caused by debris


Good point. If the fires started before the collapse of WTC1 and 2, then the claim will be they started because of falling debris. From David Ray Griffin, "Michael Hess and Barry Jennings ... reported an explosion that evidently occurred between 9:15 and 9:30." Of course, NIST, the BBC's conspiracy files and others have placed this after the fall of the first tower at least an hour later, but Griffin gives lots of supporting evidence for the accuracy of Jennings evidence. If my memory serves me well, a recent vid (posted on this board) released by NIST under the FOI, shows a man on the 8th floor before the fall of any towers with a fire on that floor, which is completely consistent with Jennings' evidence.

And of course for the nay sayers, Jennings is dead and Hess did a U turn on his evidence. How very convenient.

IMO the circumstantial evidence says something went wrong with the detonation. One possibility is that B7 was supposed to come down under the smokescreen of pyroplastic dust, so no damming video evidence. But that is just speculation.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just another 'Brick' out of the Wall of Lies:-


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 14, 2010 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Take encouragement fellow labourers for 911 truth. This reminds me of the Apostle Paul who before he saw the light breathed out threatenings to the believers (in that case Christians)


Geraldo "I am very much more open minded because of these architects and engineers who know much more than i do"

Lets hope he becomes as outspoken for 911 truth as he was originally against it.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 15, 2010 7:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thermate911 wrote:
Just another 'Brick' out of the Wall of Lies:-


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"MOXNEWS"? Confused
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