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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 10:15 am    Post subject: Dear American Jews, if you love Israel – criticize it Reply with quote

http://www.intifada-palestine.com/2010/11/gideon-levy-if-you-love-isra el-criticize-it/

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If Israel is dear to you – and that is true of most of you – then be honest enough to criticize it as it deserves.

by Gideon Levy

Today, your representatives will open your great annual convention, the General Assembly. Between New Orleans’ Marriott and Sheraton hotels, you will be sated with lectures and lecturers, panels and discussion groups. Some will be about you, and some will be about us Israelis. Once again, you will hear all the cliches – and Joe Biden, Benjamin Netanyahu and Tzipi Livni, too.

But this year, you will be meeting in the shadow of last week’s midterm elections – many of you are surely rejoicing over the president’s defeat – and on the eve of fateful decisions.

I read that your menu includes an Israeli breakfast, and also several discussions about the global delegitimization of Israel. Doubtless the speakers will tell you it’s because of anti-Semitism.

Don’t believe them. There is anti-Semitism in the world, but not to the extent they will tell you. Nor is there any “delegitimization of Israel.” There is only delegitimization of Israel’s policy of force and occupation.

That same “anti-Semitic” world knew how to embrace Israel when the latter chose the right path – during the Oslo era, for instance. What most of the world has become fed up with is only Israel’s ongoing occupation and violent policy. And the responsibility (and blame ) for their existence lies with Israel, not the world. The world is hard on Israel, but it also grants it special rights that no other country enjoys.

If Israel is dear to you – and that is true of most of you – then be honest enough to criticize it as it deserves. Think about your personal friends. What would they value more: your blind, automatic support, or criticism born of love when it is warranted?

Your beloved Israel is addicted. It is addicted to occupation and aggression, and someone has to wean it from these addictions. Like any other junkie, it is incapable of helping itself. Thus the job falls to you.

Some of you know the truth. You want a strong Israel, but know that the settlements only weaken it. You dream about a larger Israel, but know that such an Israel cannot be a just one. You want to be proud of Israel, and you know that in recent years this has become almost impossible.

Think back to last year’s Operation Cast Lead in Gaza. Even your American television stations broadcast atrocity pictures from Gaza. How did you feel then? How did you explain it to your friends? Self-defense? They didn’t buy it. Hamas? That didn’t justify death and destruction of such horrific proportions. ... ... ...

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 11:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! JEWS!!! . . . and don't forget the JEWS!!!


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote


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Thoughts on zionism.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never mind, Flakeymedia, you will become more discerning as you get up to speed...


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...unless you have an agenda, of course?

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What point, apart from obfuscation?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've seen it all now. David Duke.

David fuc*in' Duke?!

Seems like you really are Nazis and KKK heads.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakey, it would help if you can reference some of David Duke's mis-statements crimes etc. for us here?
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Knights of the Ku Klux Klan
In 1974, David Duke founded the Louisiana-based Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (KKKK), a Louisiana Ku Klux Klan organization, shortly after graduating from LSU.[56] He became Grand Wizard of the KKKK. A follower of Duke, Thomas Robb, changed the title of Grand Wizard to National Director, and replaced the Klan's white robes with business suits.[57] Duke first received broad public attention during this time, as he endeavored to market himself in the mid-1970s as a new brand of Klansman: well-groomed, engaged, and professional. Duke also reformed the organization, promoting nonviolence and legality, and, for the first time in the Klan's history, women were accepted as equal members and Catholics were encouraged to apply for membership.[58] Duke would repeatedly insist that the Klan was "not anti-black", but rather "pro-white" and "pro-Christian."

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Being wikipedia I dare say there may be challenges to this account but you get the gist about why he is controversial (and why Ahmedinejad's decision to invite the guy to his holocaust conference was also 'controversial')
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 6:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yup, he sounds like controlled opposition alright.
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In 1974, David Duke founded the Louisiana-based Knights of the Ku Klux Klan (KKKK), a Louisiana Ku Klux Klan organization, shortly after graduating from LSU.[56] He became Grand Wizard of the KKKK.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 18, 2010 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

LOL

Hey, I didn't say they were my thoughts.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 10:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ GStT: I rather suspected that you had your tongue firmly in cheek when you posted that clip and as we have had a brush before, at first I considered it to be an attempt to derail the posting of the article (first published in Ha'aretz) from Gideon Levy, a Jew.

However - it did create a space for a hysterical Sabra, posing as a 9/11 'truther', to vent his/her bile and it also gave us a further demonstration of 'kid glove' editorial bias from Tony.

No, there is definitely something that doesn't smell quite right here and I suspect it is a means to focus on the detractors of Zionism in order to assassinate at least their characters - the usual Zionist ploy whenever their incessant, towering lies are placed under scrutiny.

I will say this again (and again and again ad inf if necessary): Mankind's common enemy comes in two mutually antagonistic flavours; Zion and Thule. Until both are fully exposed and rendered powerless, compassionate humanity will have no peace on this planet.

Why the editorial team here are clouding this vital issue is of some considerable concern for those of us committed to upholding the tenets of this site's banner headline "9/11, the Bigger Picture & the Quest for Truth"

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Zionism question is important.

In the end the Duke equation is just a White supremacist outing Zionist supremacists.

Supremacy Vs Supremacy.

Race wars.

Maybe all humans are supreme. But fundamentally flawed too.

Apparently.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can point out that Duke is obsessed. The theme is that's it's "them", those JEWS!!! who are to blame for . . . erm . . . everything, absolutely everything. That takes away responsibility from us all, which is where the responsibility is ultimately. The whole Anglo/American Empire pulled off 9/11 for world domination and control of remaining hydrocarbon reserves post Peak Oil - Brzezinski outlined the whole thing in his book "The Grand Chessboard". Yes there are Jews in the top financial Jobs and Jews are an insular bunch but then so are the Chinese. There's a bigger picture rather than Duke's JEWS!!! obsession.

And - it's just preposterous to make posts claiming that nice Mr. Duke's KKK was a nice fluffy KKK. Not a nasty KKK like those hood wearing terribly naughty KKK's. No, what we're dealing with here apparently is the lovely, friendly, smiling, besuited, helping-old-ladies-across-the-road KKK. The kind of KKK you could take home to meet your mum. Don't expect to be taken seriously presenting such ridiculous rubbish as serious comment.

Duke did with his KKK what Nick Griffin did with the BNP - take their fascist garb away - out go the white hoods and burning crosses of the KKK, out go the shaven heads and boots 'n' bomber jackets of the BNP thugs and on go the suits and the talk of identity and heritage etc. etc. To anyone with a functioning brain they're still Nazis.

Here's Nick at a meeting with non other than that nice Mr. Duke himself. Listen carefully now Wink


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GodSaveTheTeam wrote:
The Zionism question is important.

In the end the Duke equation is just a White supremacist outing Zionist supremacists.

Supremacy Vs Supremacy.

Race wars.


Organised and preeesented by those members of the 13 Families devoid of all human attributes but the most reptillian (as in 'brainstem', not Icke), hellbent on destroying enough of us so they can regain control.

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Maybe all humans are supreme. But fundamentally flawed too.

Apparently.


I suspect our true nature is personal sovereignty on this plane - only our communication with the Divine has been much debased by those who have controlled and 'educated' us for millennia...

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 2:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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And - it's just preposterous to make posts claiming that nice Mr. Duke's KKK was a nice fluffy KKK. Not a nasty KKK like those hood wearing terribly naughty KKK's. No, what we're dealing with here apparently is the lovely, friendly, smiling, besuited, helping-old-ladies-across-the-road KKK. The kind of KKK you could take home to meet your mum. Don't expect to be taken seriously presenting such ridiculous rubbish as serious comment.



Who did so?
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 19, 2010 4:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wakeymedia the Hasbara Muppet wrote:

....The whole Anglo/American Empire pulled off 9/11 for world domination and control of remaining hydrocarbon reserves post Peak Oil -.....

They had greater control of Oil prior to the invasion of Iraq than they have today.! Thus, who did benefit from 9/11 and the invasion/occupation of Iraq.?

Eh.....the racist, supremacist, genocidal state of Israel, and all of its Zionazi whores who support it.!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, time's up! I gave it 48 hours to see whether anyone would comment on the actual contents of the Gideon Levy article.

Gideon Levy wrote:
... ... ...Your beloved Israel is addicted. It is addicted to occupation and aggression, and someone has to wean it from these addictions. Like any other junkie, it is incapable of helping itself. Thus the job falls to you. ... ... ...


and the response?

It's beginning to look like '38 again, at least around here, despite the net...

Are there no Jews in the house willing to speak up for their brethren now heading towards annihilation again?

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:33 pm    Post subject: David (fluffy) Duke Reply with quote

On the subject of that nice Mr. Duke - here he is having fun with what seems to be more than a hobby.

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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: David (fluffy) Duke Reply with quote

Wakeymedia wrote:
On the subject of that nice Mr. Duke - here he is having fun with what seems to be more than a hobby.



"Dear American Jews, if you love Israel – criticize it"

Then they should criticize zionist (which is more than a hobby, left and right)
America too, as Mr Duke is Jewish.
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 03, 2011 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sticking up for DD here but the pic on the right is fundamentally flawed !!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 07, 2011 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Disco_Destroyer - "the pic on the right is fundamentally flawed"?

Is it?
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