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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: SIMply wrong
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double post - apologies from my ISP or spookdom.
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It's in the Grauniad so it must be true... :-
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/feb/14/al-qaida-supergrass-77-questi ons
| Quote: | The al-Qaida supergrass and the 7/7 questions that remain unanswered
The early release of a jihadi turned US supergrass who helped a London bomber has rung alarm bells. Shiv Malik reports on doubts held by the victims' families
o Shiv Malik
o The Guardian, Monday 14 February 2011
o Article history
Graham Foulkes's son David, 22, was one of the 52 people killed in a series of terrorist attacks on the London transport system on 7 July 2005 Link to this video
In November 2001 when Mohammed Junaid Babar made his television debut, it was clear what side he was on. "When the American troops enter we will kill them in Afghanistan," he said. The tubby, bespectacled 25-year-old Islamist from Queens, New York, had flown out to Pakistan adamant that he was going to commit murderous treason. Staring into the camera, without any face covering, he told an ITN reporter: "There is no negotiation with Americans. When they're coming in with the mindset to kill my Muslim brothers and sisters, I will do the same on the frontline. I will kill every American that I see."
Babar's chilling words, spoken with a New York twang, were broadcast around the world. His dedication to the cause of jihad could scarcely be doubted. Even though his mother, working as a secretary on the ninth floor of the twin towers, had only narrowly escaped with her life before they collapsed, he had determinedly flown out to Pakistan a little over a week later to do his "Islamic duty" and support al-Qaida and the Taliban.
Over the next 2½ years Babar met senior members of al-Qaida including its No 3, Abdul Hadi, and Omar Sheikh, the killer of US journalist Daniel Pearl, and provided them with money and equipment such as night vision goggles. He ran weapons, sent people into Afghanistan to fight US forces, planned to assassinate the president of Pakistan twice, and in summer 2003 set up a training camp in north-west Pakistan that provided lessons in bomb-making to young British jihadis including the leader of the 7 July cell, Mohammed Sidique Khan.
According to his own testimony Babar met Khan at Islamabad airport and took him to the training camp he had set up. There Khan learned how to fire machine guns, rocket-propel grenades and mix explosives – a crucial step towards making the London bombings the most deadly plot to have been carried out on British soil.
Now released after just a few years, Babar has paid a small penalty for his role in that atrocity. But, if allegations from a US terrorism lawyer are true, Babar may have been working for the US security services while pretending to be a jihadi – allegations that could imply serious failures to prevent the 7 July bombings. Babar's story is the stuff of spy novels. One of the most dangerous home-grown Islamist terrorists the US has known was to become the world's most formidable terror supergrass. Seemingly well embedded in the ranks of al-Qaida, in March 2004 he flew home to New York and moved back into his parents' detached house in the Muslim area of Queens. US authorities have so far not explained why he was not placed on a no-fly list. ... ... ... |
Prole will elucidate, no doubt? Or Bob Kiley, maybe?
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We'll have a blog post up soon which explains the role of Babar or you can read our submission to the 7/7 Inquests here:
http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/J7-Inquest-Submission/13.Preventability-I ssues.pdf
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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: McDaid Who?
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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: MI5 taking the PISCES - Part 1
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An article by David Minahan:
J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: You Couldn't Make It Up!
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Another article by David Minahan, author of the London Bombings Dossier, and a former National President of the MSF Union:
J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: The Lynton House Mystery
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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: The Bodies On The Line
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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: The Perjury of Martin Gilbertson
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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: 7/7 Inquests: The 7 July Inquest Verdict
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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: A Nissan Micra Tardis?
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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: 6th Anniversary of 7/7
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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: Murdoch phone hacking and 7/7 Investigation
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J7: 7/7 Inquests Blog: Luton Station car park - recovering the truth
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