On a philosophical note we could all be agents for MI6
jazds wrote:
Charlie Veitch is the star of a new documentary called "Upsidedown" (this is another docu not the BBC 911 Road Trip) where he furthers underlines his views that 911 truth is the construct of conspirtoids (like he was before he woke up as Satan's son), more to the point when asked if he's an MI6 agent he says "yes"...
Charlie appears to be a master of using the old double bluff, Of course by this point anyone who can "see" will have turned off from Charlie but he still has 50,880 Channel subscribers and thousands of followers who hang on his every word (even if they are not quite clear what that word means!)...
Interestingly Charlie Veitch's father John Veitch (source facebook and Charlie Veitch exposes Charlie Veitch) went to Gordonstoun - one of the country's most elitist schools, popular with Royalty, The Duke of Edinburgh went there and so did Prince Charles. The School is also popular with former heads of the intelligence services. If nothing else, this underlines the fact that Charlie comes from a privileged background.
Another connection is Andrew Veitch who was a senior news editor for BBC News, the man has been said to be Charlie's uncle, certainly there is more than just passing family resemblance - he is also Scottish and spent time living in Brazil. His bio is revealing…
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 1:40 pm Post subject:
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Disco_Destroyer" On a philosophical note we could all be agents for MI6
Unpaid ones though _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
It really wouldn't matter would it? Disco Destroyer could be an asset but it would be a waist of their time as no one gives a *, no one has heard of Disco Destoryer and Disco Destroyer is staring in multiple documentaries focusing on attacking 911 truth!
Veitch has the exposure and the following to cause the ruptures and affect the masses when they see a "911 truther" convinced on a BBC 911 Road Trip over night just by meeting a few officials, it will be quite convincing to most that we're all quite nuts. Reinforcing a narative already established by the Main Stream Media. He turns from being vocal activist of 911 truth, to an active supporter of the official narrative. As if to prove the might of the official story to the uninitiated, the program will show how Charlie's Conspititoids react to his change of mind. So many people upset that they donated money to a shill!
Demonstrating the scripted nature, the docu will show how Charlie's supporters react like a cult, convinced by their own opinions; opinions according to Charlie (upset that his "friends" have turned on him) they have not researched (like Veitch himself admits to not having done, despite previously claiming the oposit) other than by looking at dubious websites.
Veitch has now researched the official narrative and spoken to officials over the course of a number of days, he can now tells us he knows the truth.
Veitch aka Damian, son of Satan meet Shayler aka The Messiah, son of God - an intelligence op, congnative dissidence - are good examples of the kind of people we should all steer a wide path to avoid. I did, what the hell were 50,880 people doing watching this moron develop his story? He was calling for violence over a year ago and this continued, with a number of events crafted to scupper his own movement, such as his Satan video and his transformation from mainstream middle of the road, to New Age Anarchist, militant leftie, with a father from Gordonstoun, employed by big oil, his brother a merchant banker, an uncle high up the food chain at the BBC / mainstream news, a home in Brazil, a public school background, a history of working for a Rothschild investment house, the British Army, careful to ensure he kept his Brazilian military registration up to date... non of this is the background of a typical New Age Anarchist, militant leftie!
Disco_Destroyer wrote:
On a philosophical note we could all be agents for MI6
jazds wrote:
Charlie Veitch is the star of a new documentary called "Upsidedown" (this is another docu not the BBC 911 Road Trip) where he furthers underlines his views that 911 truth is the construct of conspirtoids (like he was before he woke up as Satan's son), more to the point when asked if he's an MI6 agent he says "yes"...
Charlie appears to be a master of using the old double bluff, Of course by this point anyone who can "see" will have turned off from Charlie but he still has 50,880 Channel subscribers and thousands of followers who hang on his every word (even if they are not quite clear what that word means!)...
Interestingly Charlie Veitch's father John Veitch (source facebook and Charlie Veitch exposes Charlie Veitch) went to Gordonstoun - one of the country's most elitist schools, popular with Royalty, The Duke of Edinburgh went there and so did Prince Charles. The School is also popular with former heads of the intelligence services. If nothing else, this underlines the fact that Charlie comes from a privileged background.
Another connection is Andrew Veitch who was a senior news editor for BBC News, the man has been said to be Charlie's uncle, certainly there is more than just passing family resemblance - he is also Scottish and spent time living in Brazil. His bio is revealing…
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 7:49 pm Post subject:
Disco_Destroyer wrote:
On a philosophical note we could all be agents for MI6
jazds wrote:
Charlie Veitch is the star of a new documentary called "Upsidedown" (this is another docu not the BBC 911 Road Trip) where he furthers underlines his views that 911 truth is the construct of conspirtoids (like he was before he woke up as Satan's son), more to the point when asked if he's an MI6 agent he says "yes"...
Charlie appears to be a master of using the old double bluff, Of course by this point anyone who can "see" will have turned off from Charlie but he still has 50,880 Channel subscribers and thousands of followers who hang on his every word (even if they are not quite clear what that word means!)...
Interestingly Charlie Veitch's father John Veitch (source facebook and Charlie Veitch exposes Charlie Veitch) went to Gordonstoun - one of the country's most elitist schools, popular with Royalty, The Duke of Edinburgh went there and so did Prince Charles. The School is also popular with former heads of the intelligence services. If nothing else, this underlines the fact that Charlie comes from a privileged background.
Another connection is Andrew Veitch who was a senior news editor for BBC News, the man has been said to be Charlie's uncle, certainly there is more than just passing family resemblance - he is also Scottish and spent time living in Brazil. His bio is revealing…
You're 'brown bread', d_d, for exposing the ramifications of our plan. We of the NWO are after you! (Triple Secret Agent 666, 'Director General' par excellence, Sovereign Prat First Class (with bar), Hieronymous von Crowley V.)
Great that you're chasing this stuff up; God (not 'Yah-Bul-On' or 'Moloch' or 'Hecate' or whatever) bless yer! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:37 pm Post subject:
I have seen how youtube can manipulate statistics to show low interest and manipulate a sites ability to court advertising, so of course this can be used in the reverse with youtube adding views and subscription figures.
There is always the ability for Intelligence to present ghost subscribers also.
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Posted: Sat Jul 16, 2011 9:42 pm Post subject:
Life wrote:
I have seen how youtube can manipulate statistics to show low interest and manipulate a sites ability to court advertising, so of course this can be used in the reverse with youtube adding views and subscription figures.
There is always the ability for Intelligence to present ghost subscribers also.
Surely they wouldn't stoop so low! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
The stats graph on the cazzac111 scribd account.......
both of these graphs from the same account, the first one in the morning
(going down)
this second one in the afternoon of the same day and from the same graph............ going up.....?!
And the following shows the current stats counter for three of the cazzac111 youtube vids from my account, all at zero, which is pretty much impossible, as they are certainly being viewed. So....where are all these very high hits (ie Vetich at 50,000) coming from?
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If you check the bottom of this google page, you will see that there has been a cease and desist request to google search engine.....
for a video which has certainly not had 50,000 views. (The EIM/ARK video which caused so many problems on this website a couple of years ago re legal threats. )
In response to a legal request submitted to Google, we have removed 3 result(s) from this page. If you wish, you may read more about the request at ChillingEffects.org.
So, seems that the more the story upsets those at the top, the more they like to silence it.....and they have certainly been very aggressive (and remain so) in attempting to silence this story.
Veitch has never been very silent, his story must be suitably rubbish.
It really wouldn't matter would it? Disco Destroyer could be an asset but it would be a waist of their time as no one gives a *, no one has heard of Disco Destoryer and Disco Destroyer is staring in multiple documentaries focusing on attacking 911 truth!
Veitch has the exposure and the following to cause the ruptures and affect the masses when they see a "911 truther" convinced on a BBC 911 Road Trip over night just by meeting a few officials, it will be quite convincing to most that we're all quite nuts. Reinforcing a narative already established by the Main Stream Media. He turns from being vocal activist of 911 truth, to an active supporter of the official narrative. As if to prove the might of the official story to the uninitiated, the program will show how Charlie's Conspititoids react to his change of mind. So many people upset that they donated money to a shill!
Demonstrating the scripted nature, the docu will show how Charlie's supporters react like a cult, convinced by their own opinions; opinions according to Charlie (upset that his "friends" have turned on him) they have not researched (like Veitch himself admits to not having done, despite previously claiming the oposit) other than by looking at dubious websites.
Veitch has now researched the official narrative and spoken to officials over the course of a number of days, he can now tells us he knows the truth.
Veitch aka Damian, son of Satan meet Shayler aka The Messiah, son of God - an intelligence op, congnative dissidence - are good examples of the kind of people we should all steer a wide path to avoid. I did, what the hell were 50,880 people doing watching this moron develop his story? He was calling for violence over a year ago and this continued, with a number of events crafted to scupper his own movement, such as his Satan video and his transformation from mainstream middle of the road, to New Age Anarchist, militant leftie, with a father from Gordonstoun, employed by big oil, his brother a merchant banker, an uncle high up the food chain at the BBC / mainstream news, a home in Brazil, a public school background, a history of working for a Rothschild investment house, the British Army, careful to ensure he kept his Brazilian military registration up to date... non of this is the background of a typical New Age Anarchist, militant leftie!
Disco_Destroyer wrote:
On a philosophical note we could all be agents for MI6
jazds wrote:
Charlie Veitch is the star of a new documentary called "Upsidedown" (this is another docu not the BBC 911 Road Trip) where he furthers underlines his views that 911 truth is the construct of conspirtoids (like he was before he woke up as Satan's son), more to the point when asked if he's an MI6 agent he says "yes"...
Charlie appears to be a master of using the old double bluff, Of course by this point anyone who can "see" will have turned off from Charlie but he still has 50,880 Channel subscribers and thousands of followers who hang on his every word (even if they are not quite clear what that word means!)...
Interestingly Charlie Veitch's father John Veitch (source facebook and Charlie Veitch exposes Charlie Veitch) went to Gordonstoun - one of the country's most elitist schools, popular with Royalty, The Duke of Edinburgh went there and so did Prince Charles. The School is also popular with former heads of the intelligence services. If nothing else, this underlines the fact that Charlie comes from a privileged background.
Another connection is Andrew Veitch who was a senior news editor for BBC News, the man has been said to be Charlie's uncle, certainly there is more than just passing family resemblance - he is also Scottish and spent time living in Brazil. His bio is revealing…
Veitch is quick to say it's only his new opinion while at the same time dictating it is the only possible truth. I do suspect if he ever was for real he has been threatened in some way _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 9:14 am Post subject:
You should not be in this game if threats and indeed action against you is going to shift you to their will, it is part of the course that if you are going to move against the power you have to expect it.
I could write ten threads of the actions and threats against me especially since I began in 2001 to write copious amounts of words to councillors and such.
It seems to me that most in this supposed game of truth saying do not believe that what they are spreading is realtime resistance to what is a very real threat to the country and the people who live in it.
take this morning on the TV show after Marr, the question being asked is; ''is the UK corrupted'', you need to realise what they are doing with this, see MRG.
Seems like we already live in Brzezinki's world in which the power elite are above the law again so much for progress _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Veitch has never been very silent, his story must be suitably rubbish.
Is the Charlie Veitch story (along with the recent appearance of Tony Farrell) a means of sending the ‘truth movement’ off on a distraction, while the ‘is the UK corrupted? – (will the queen dissolve parliament?’) story moves on unnoticed?
With plenty of help from Schillings, attempting to quash the ARK/EIM story. (Prince William fronted the recent ARK fundraiser).
In 2004, National Geographic published this photo of a 1915 Cremation of Care ritual taken by Gabriel Moulin and included a caption below the photo explaining the picture. “To purge himself of worldly concerns, a member of the elite Bohemian Club participated in a 1915 Cremation of Care ceremony—complete with candles and a robed and hooded comrade to guide him. This private club of influential men still meets annually north of San Francisco and uses this symbolic ritual to kick off its summer retreat. But today the ceremony involves burning a mummy-like effigy named Care at the foot of the group’s mascot: a 40-foot-tall (12-meter-tall) concrete owl.”
Another ‘truth movement’ diversion, Bohemian Grove.
Take a look at another camp, the Whitney’s Deerlands Camp in New York state.
The Whitneys are mentioned on various internet postings as being members of Skull and Bones.
Wheelock Whitney Junior attended Yale with George W. Bush.
Michael Young (who was ‘instrumental in shaping labour party thinking’ and father of Toby Young, behind the West London Free School) attended Whitney summer camps in New York state.
The Whitney family originated from (no surprise) Westminster, London. John Whitney (1592-1673) was with the Worshipful Company of Merchant Tailors.
Michael Young studied at the London School of Economics (of the John Adam st Gang - no surprise) and the supporters of the Free School Movement, the New Schools Network, is of the John Adam St Gang (also no surprise).
The John Adam St Gang story is as big as the silence on the internet is with respect to this story. Huge.
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 3:39 pm Post subject:
Willy Wonka corrects Veitch
Link _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 4:57 pm Post subject:
Caz wrote:
Another ‘truth movement’ diversion, Bohemian Grove.
Take a look at another camp, the Whitney’s Deerlands Camp in New York state.
The Whitneys are mentioned on various internet postings as being members of Skull and Bones.
Wheelock Whitney Junior attended Yale with George W. Bush.
Michael Young (who was ‘instrumental in shaping labour party thinking’ and father of Toby Young, behind the West London Free School) attended Whitney summer camps in New York state.
The Whitney family originated from (no surprise) Westminster, London. John Whitney (1592-1673) was with the Worshipful Company of Merchant Tailors.
Michael Young studied at the London School os Economics (of the John Adam st Gang - no surprise) and the supporters of the Free School Movement, the New Schools Network, is of the John Adam St Gang (also no surprise).
The John Adam St Gang story is a big as the silence on the internet is with respect to this story. Huge.
I don't quite see why adding some more info re 'Whitneys' is any more relevant than 'Bohemian Grove', or indeed why either is 'irrelevant'. Surely they complement each other?
I don't see why on earth you seem to believe 'Bohemian Grove' is irrelevant. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
If the two compliment each other, they certainly don’t compliment each other with respect to the amount of airtime they both get from the truth movement. Bohemian grove is not irrelevant, but it is certainly old news.
The Whitney camp at Deerlands never gets a mention.
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Posted: Sun Jul 17, 2011 6:41 pm Post subject:
Caz wrote:
If the two compliment each other, they certainly don’t compliment each other with respect to the amount of airtime they both get from the truth movement. Bohemian grove is not irrelevant, but it is certainly old news.
The Whitney camp at Deerlands never gets a mention.
Posters are often posting 'new' material that complement the Truth Campaign's aims; perhaps most of us hadn't heard of the Whitney camp; I hadn't.
No need to knock 'Bohemian Grove' posts. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
In all fairness - people can’t be expected to know it.
I came across this unexpectedly and it can really be the case that few know this story.
My issue is that with the truth movement constantly regurgitating old news, or light-weight stories which contribute nothing new, this gives the PTB the opportunity to move on apace. From what we are finding, they are up to something far more dangerous than most are aware of. (I notice that the John Adam St Gang are still not getting a mention, and people don't need to know about Camp Deerlands to take up this story).
Having said that, I am aware that there are serious efforts to ensure that people are not made aware of what the deeper stories are, and Schillings can only be busy indeed with their threats and intimidation.
Image below of passenger list (4/8/33) indicating that Michael Young (at entry number three) destination in the US was Camp Deerlands, Whitney Park.
(He travelled to New York at about the same time every year throughout this decade, with the same group of interesting people.)
Image now on the John Adam St Gang flickr account here:
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Posted: Mon Jul 18, 2011 8:47 pm Post subject:
Caz wrote:
Quote:
Posters are often posting 'new' material
I do think the story about Michael Young attending Camp Deerlands is indeed new material.
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I am not saying it's not new, or that it is not of interest.
All I am saying is there is no need to knock posts of Bohemian Grove or whatever.
There's a hole in my bucket, dear caz, dear caz;
There's a hole in my bucket, dear caz,
a hole............................................................ _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
I posted said pic as I flipped pages and there it was, timing so perfect that is all! _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Decent information berried under a sea of trash and off topic woffle.... and people wonder why the truth movement is going nowhere fast!
It pointless posting anything here any more, most times the website doesn't even connect, I just get an error page but no one seems bothered than no one can connect, people post nonsense and threads get diluted with drivel!!!
To be fair the post deals with the nonsensical peering into the beliefs of 1 man. Why not fill it with drivel? _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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Posted: Thu Jul 21, 2011 9:34 pm Post subject:
Disco_Destroyer wrote:
To be fair the post deals with the nonsensical peering into the beliefs of 1 man. Why not fill it with drivel?
I believe these 'nonsensical' 'claimed' beliefs' of CV are in fact a classic 'sting' operation, carefully planned and orchestrated by the 'Powers That Be', planting an 'agent provocateur' into the midst of a group correctly assessed as a threat to their nefarious, murderous machinations, with the slight twist of 'turning' their 'man' so as to weaken the threatening group (us).
Looking back through these posts, CV fits the bill for an elitist agenda, as do a number of other disruptive 'Public Schoolboy' types.
I don't take CV for a fool, but for a knave. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
.Michael Young, Baron Young of Dartington (9 August 1915 – 14 January 2002) was a British sociologist, social activist and politician who coined the term "meritocracy".
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During an active life he was instrumental in shaping Labour Party thinking, was a leading protagonist on social reform, and founded or helped found a number of socially useful organizations. These include the Consumers' Association, the National Consumer Council, the Open University, the National Extension College, the Open College of the Arts and Language Line, a telephone-interpreting business.
The dulution of the 9/11 Truth movement was planned well before 9/11 so how can people expect it to be any good a decade later with false prophets like CV very cleverly manipulated using the Conspiracy theorists best friend...YouTube.
Did any of the so-called 'truth movement' think that those who carried out 9/11 and 7/7 wouldn't actually take the P with such flare? The apparent lefty/truther/activist being here, there and everywhere employing his eloquent voice all over YouTube built-up his prominence and fan-base so quickly and yet there have been some great truthers who have actually researched (some of you here) without the major reliance of YouTube as a resource.
In my opinion, YouTube is part of the problem, not the solution. Desktop and laptop heroes popping-up in the virtual world trying to solve a real world problem.
Just my opinion of course, but heck it's funny to think so many believed in him. _________________ "The likelihood of one individual being right increases in direct proportion to the intensity to which others are trying to prove him[her] wrong."
- - Harry Segall
"The best way to control the opposition is to lead it ourselves." Lenin 1917
The dulution of the 9/11 Truth movement was planned well before 9/11 so how can people expect it to be any good a decade later with false prophets like CV very cleverly manipulated using the Conspiracy theorists best friend...YouTube.
Did any of the so-called 'truth movement' think that those who carried out 9/11 and 7/7 wouldn't actually take the P with such flare? The apparent lefty/truther/activist being here, there and everywhere employing his eloquent voice all over YouTube built-up his prominence and fan-base so quickly and yet there have been some great truthers who have actually researched (some of you here) without the major reliance of YouTube as a resource.
In my opinion, YouTube is part of the problem, not the solution. Desktop and laptop heroes popping-up in the virtual world trying to solve a real world problem.
Just my opinion of course, but heck it's funny to think so many believed in him.
The danger in this climate is this is exactly the hopelessness in which Adolf Hitler was entrusted _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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