The makers of Loosechange hired (at great expense) a private detective to investigate how he died. After some time the lady detective returned their money and told them:
"due to some of the information I have uncovered I have determined that this is a matter for the police, do not to contact me again".
We still don't know how he died beyond that he spent some time in hospital.
So what's wrong with the detective saying 'Barry Jennings died of XXXXXX' and taking the money?
Dylan Avery had Barry's address in Long Island. When he went there the house was empty and up for sale. Nobody can get hold of Barry Jennings' death certificate.
Dylan Avery is now afraid for his own life. There is now a growing movement specifically investigating the death of Barry Jennings.
Barry Jennings died three days before the NIST report came out.
Quote:
"As for fuel fires, the team found that they could not have been sustained long enough, could not have generated sufficient heat to fail a critical column, and/or would have produced “large amounts of visible smoke” from Floors 5 and 6, which was not observed.
Finally, the report notes that “while debris impact from the collapse of WTC 1 initiated fires in WTC 7, the resulting structural damage had little effect in causing the collapse of WTC 7.”
There is video released recently by FOIA - of Michael Hess trapped in WTC7 but apparently before the towers collapsed corroborating Barry Jennings testimony that there was an explosion in WTC7 before the towers collapsed.
This video was recently released via a FOIA (freedom of information act request)...
Take a look for yourself. Michael Hess, clearly visible, is stuck in the
building. This corroborates the story Hess and Jennings told that on the way down trying to evacuate the building, an explosion occurred inside of the building which trapped them. The stairway, where the explosion occurred, blew out the last floors in the stairwell.
NEW INFORMATION ON THE DEATH OF 911 EYEWITNESS BARRY JENNINGS SEEMS TO POINT TO FOUL PLAY
By Jack Blood
www.wFUradio.com <http://www.wfuradio.com/>
www.deadlinelive.info <http://www.deadlinelive.info/>
...Jennings and Hess then proceeded to the stairs, and made it to level 6, when there was an explosion, and the stairwell collapsed from under their feet, Mr. Jennings was actually hanging, and had to climb back up. They made it back up to level 8, where Barry Jennings had a view of the twin towers, both buildings were still standing. This is an important detail, as many debunkers have used Mr. Jennings statements out of context to claim the damage came to WTC 7 from the towers collapsing, not the case according, to Mr. Jennings.
As I mentioned in my initial post on this site, I started investigating 9/11 very very late. I would guess that a large number of the general public simply hasn't studied the event for many numbers of reasons.
In my case it was simply neglect.
I've recently started discussing 9/11 with my parents and both were/are pretty much clueless as to what happened on that day.
The reason for my post here is simple.
I recently started investigating the Jennings story and wanted to point out an important error in the above Jack Blood article.
I'm surprised no one else has caught it up until now.
Blood states that "they made it back up to level 8, where Barry Jennings had a view of the twin towers, both buildings were still standing. This is an important detail..."
It would have been impossible for Jennings/Hess to view the twin towers from where they were located on the 8th floor of WTC7.
Jennings stated he was on the north side of WTC7 (he stated he saw a sign in the building stating 'north').
The recent video of Hess shouting out from the 8th floor window on 9/11 could corroborate this with someone who was familiar with the building views.
In addition, Jennings never said he saw the towers standing, if you listen to all of his interviews.
But despite the error in the article, Jennings still remains a huge 'smoking gun' for what happened on 9/11.
Jennings arrived at WTC7 around 9:00 am on 9/11.
He was walking down the stairwell with Hess shortly after that.
This was well before either building had fallen. It was during this time that these two men witnessed seeing and hearing explosions.
In addition, Jennings spoke to the firemen three times. The first time, after they had come back to the 8th floor and smashed out the window, the firemen ran away because the South Tower was coming down.
The second time when the firemen came back to help the two men the North Tower started to come down so once again they had to retreat.
So despite not being able to see the twin towers, Jennings' time line remains intact and powerful as ever.
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 9:31 am Post subject:
TonyGosling wrote:
Brilliant show! Thanks Gruts. Alex Jones is my cup of tea if a bit dark sometimes. Only one problem. He avoids any mention of and criticism of Zionism which I find rather taints some of the good work he does.
gruts wrote:
there was a lot of discussion about Jennings' death throughout yesterday's Alex Jones show - particularly in the second and third hours when AJ interviewed Aaron Dykes and Jason Bermas on the subject - and the efforts they've made over the past few weeks to find out what happened to Jennings.
I know AJ is not exactly everybody's cup of tea but here's a link for anyone who's interested....
http://www.nw0.info/files/Radio/Alex%20Jones%20Radio%20Archive/2008/Se ptember/aj_2008-09-17.mp3
Quote:
The 911 movement is alive, well and kicking in New York and beyond!
.....Another marcher had David Griffin's new book 911 Contradictions - An Open Letter to Congress and the Press, in which Griffin details reports that Michael Hess, New York City's corporation counsel, had arrived at the 23rd floor Emergency Management Center of WTC 7 not long after the first hit. So had Barry Jennings arrived there then, as originally reported. He was deputy director of the Emergency Services Dept for the New York City Housing Authority. Both men experienced explosions on the 8th floor as they were walking down the steps from the abandoned EMC. They were rescued by firemen within an hour and a half. Read their full story in Griffin's gripping book for something else that smells rotten in T-7 . . .
P.S. Who could have realized at that moment that Barry Jennings would be reported dead on 9/16/08 and that Alex Jones office would not even be able to contact the deceased's family. Linked is this brave man's testimony from infowars.com. Jennings was only 53 years old. His death came only days before the release of NIST's whitewash report on WTC, and shortly after a firestorm erupted over his testimony that he heard explosions inside the building prior to collapse of either tower and that there were dead bodies in the building's blown-out lobby. I wonder if Michael Hess is next.
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_3759.shtml
It is widely reported that Alex Jones has a Jewish wife, perhaps a convert to Christianity.
That could explain his reluctance to blaming Israel for 9/11 etc., but he still puts out good material that the NWO and Israel do not want aired.
That's good enough for me; no one's perfect. And he gets across info to people our 9/11 and NWO info might well otherwise not hear. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Regarding Barry Jennings saying both Towers were still standing, here is a clip, for 'MarkMe911's information, where he clearly states just that. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
NEW INFORMATION ON THE DEATH OF 911 EYEWITNESS BARRY JENNINGS SEEMS TO POINT TO FOUL PLAY
By Jack Blood
www.wFUradio.com <http://www.wfuradio.com/>
www.deadlinelive.info <http://www.deadlinelive.info/>
...Jennings and Hess then proceeded to the stairs, and made it to level 6, when there was an explosion, and the stairwell collapsed from under their feet, Mr. Jennings was actually hanging, and had to climb back up. They made it back up to level 8, where Barry Jennings had a view of the twin towers, both buildings were still standing. This is an important detail, as many debunkers have used Mr. Jennings statements out of context to claim the damage came to WTC 7 from the towers collapsing, not the case according, to Mr. Jennings.
As I mentioned in my initial post on this site, I started investigating 9/11 very very late. I would guess that a large number of the general public simply hasn't studied the event for many numbers of reasons.
In my case it was simply neglect.
I've recently started discussing 9/11 with my parents and both were/are pretty much clueless as to what happened on that day.
The reason for my post here is simple.
I recently started investigating the Jennings story and wanted to point out an important error in the above Jack Blood article.
I'm surprised no one else has caught it up until now.
Blood states that "they made it back up to level 8, where Barry Jennings had a view of the twin towers, both buildings were still standing. This is an important detail..."
It would have been impossible for Jennings/Hess to view the twin towers from where they were located on the 8th floor of WTC7.
Jennings stated he was on the north side of WTC7 (he stated he saw a sign in the building stating 'north').
The recent video of Hess shouting out from the 8th floor window on 9/11 could corroborate this with someone who was familiar with the building views.
In addition, Jennings never said he saw the towers standing, if you listen to all of his interviews.
But despite the error in the article, Jennings still remains a huge 'smoking gun' for what happened on 9/11.
Jennings arrived at WTC7 around 9:00 am on 9/11.
He was walking down the stairwell with Hess shortly after that.
This was well before either building had fallen. It was during this time that these two men witnessed seeing and hearing explosions.
In addition, Jennings spoke to the firemen three times. The first time, after they had come back to the 8th floor and smashed out the window, the firemen ran away because the South Tower was coming down.
The second time when the firemen came back to help the two men the North Tower started to come down so once again they had to retreat.
So despite not being able to see the twin towers, Jennings' time line remains intact and powerful as ever.
Hi Mark,
Thanks for the post... interesting point but not conclusive - the stairs for WTC7 in the North West are slightly inset into the building so to view out of the building it would be easy to view south (and see the twin towers) as well as view north (probably where help was coming from!). You would have thought if they were trapped they would have looked to see if there was alternative routes...
Sorry this is 7th floor I couldn't find 8th floor plan but the stair location would be the same.
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Posted: Tue Sep 25, 2012 10:11 am Post subject:
MarkMe911 wrote:
TonyGosling wrote:
NEW INFORMATION ON THE DEATH OF 911 EYEWITNESS BARRY JENNINGS SEEMS TO POINT TO FOUL PLAY
By Jack Blood
www.wFUradio.com <http://www.wfuradio.com/>
www.deadlinelive.info <http://www.deadlinelive.info/>
...Jennings and Hess then proceeded to the stairs, and made it to level 6, when there was an explosion, and the stairwell collapsed from under their feet, Mr. Jennings was actually hanging, and had to climb back up. They made it back up to level 8, where Barry Jennings had a view of the twin towers, both buildings were still standing. This is an important detail, as many debunkers have used Mr. Jennings statements out of context to claim the damage came to WTC 7 from the towers collapsing, not the case according, to Mr. Jennings.
As I mentioned in my initial post on this site, I started investigating 9/11 very very late. I would guess that a large number of the general public simply hasn't studied the event for many numbers of reasons.
In my case it was simply neglect.
I've recently started discussing 9/11 with my parents and both were/are pretty much clueless as to what happened on that day.
The reason for my post here is simple.
I recently started investigating the Jennings story and wanted to point out an important error in the above Jack Blood article.
I'm surprised no one else has caught it up until now.
Blood states that "they made it back up to level 8, where Barry Jennings had a view of the twin towers, both buildings were still standing. This is an important detail..."
It would have been impossible for Jennings/Hess to view the twin towers from where they were located on the 8th floor of WTC7.
Jennings stated he was on the north side of WTC7 (he stated he saw a sign in the building stating 'north').
The recent video of Hess shouting out from the 8th floor window on 9/11 could corroborate this with someone who was familiar with the building views.
In addition, Jennings never said he saw the towers standing, if you listen to all of his interviews.
But despite the error in the article, Jennings still remains a huge 'smoking gun' for what happened on 9/11.
Jennings arrived at WTC7 around 9:00 am on 9/11.
He was walking down the stairwell with Hess shortly after that.
This was well before either building had fallen. It was during this time that these two men witnessed seeing and hearing explosions.
In addition, Jennings spoke to the firemen three times. The first time, after they had come back to the 8th floor and smashed out the window, the firemen ran away because the South Tower was coming down.
The second time when the firemen came back to help the two men the North Tower started to come down so once again they had to retreat.
So despite not being able to see the twin towers, Jennings' time line remains intact and powerful as ever.
Pretty weird, what, a Private Investigator returning the money and saying to the client 'Don't ever contact me again'? _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Thanks for the post... interesting point but not conclusive - the stairs for WTC7 in the North West are slightly inset into the building so to view out of the building it would be easy to view south (and see the twin towers) as well as view north (probably where help was coming from!).
Today I did some more 'Sherlock Holmes' searches and investigations and have confirmed, without any doubt, that it would have been impossible for Jennings to see the WTC1 and WTC2 towers come down.
BTW, Jennings and Hess were not on the North West side of WTC7 (as you mentioned) but on the North East side, facing directly north.
Hi Mark,
Ok - granted Hess was on the North East side. But from the plan, WTC7 stairs are in the middle or in the north west - presumably both must have been inaccessible to Hess and Jennings. There are no stairs in the North East. Hence they must be moving around inside the building - which would have provided views of the twin towers - they were pretty big...
Not too sure what you want me to see in Figure 1-7 which appears to be a photo east/west view with WTC7 north edge to the right. Figure 1.8 is a plan of the structural components of the floor - not the interior arrangement.
Not too sure what you want me to see in Figure 1-7 which appears to be a photo east/west view with WTC7 north edge to the right. Figure 1.8 is a plan of the structural components of the floor - not the interior arrangement.
Sorry, I just wanted you to see that Fig. 1-7 was showing the north side of the building, with the same facade on the 1st two floors as in the video (the facade was only on the north side).
I first need to apologize for my last two posts.
When 10 people hear the same story they will often come up with 10 different explanations of what happened.
Part of this was due to the limited information that Jennings gave for his answers, but the bigger problem was the lack of important, detailed questions that the Loose Change guys failed to ask Jennings when he was cooperating for his interview.
They could have asked him practically anything they wanted, he would have answered. He answered all their other questions.
Here's what I would have asked Jennings:
1. What time did you arrive at the 23rd floor?
2. How do you know it was this time?
3. There were two stairwells in WTC7. Which one did you use when you went down (west or east one)?
4. Approximately what time did you start descending the stairs?
5. Approximately how long did it take you to get to the 6th floor?
6. After the explosion on the 6th floor, you climbed back up to the 8th floor. Did you leave the stairwell and enter the office area?
7. Could you see through the windows on all sides of the building?
8. Could you see through the windows on the south side?
9. Could you see the WTC1 and WTC2 standing?
10. Did you try to use the other stairwell to escape the building?
11. Which windows did you break with the fire extinguisher, and why did you choose those?
12. Could you walk freely throughout the 8th floor or were you restricted to certain areas? If restricted, what was restricting you?
From Jennings answers, I had interpreted them to say that after the explosion on the 6th floor they climbed back to the 8th floor, but remained trapped in the stairwell the whole time after that, until rescued.
I thought it was a bit strange that there were windows in the stairwell.
I also didn't know the stairwells were located in the middle of the building. I couldn't read the floor plan well. I thought the stairwell was on the NE corner (where they broke the window).
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Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:34 pm Post subject:
"both buildings were still standing" Doesnt mean he saw them still standing. His statement is after the event and he qualifies it by the firemen running away twice. Also having seen lots of footage he would know they were still standing by the lack of dust and debris in the air.
His statement rather than being "eyewitness" is rather deduced from the events.
He also mentions the words of first responders about other explosions. He would have been a key witness if alive-- his oral testimony still stands _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:56 pm Post subject:
fish5133 wrote:
"both buildings were still standing" Doesnt mean he saw them still standing. His statement is after the event and he qualifies it by the firemen running away twice. Also having seen lots of footage he would know they were still standing by the lack of dust and debris in the air.
His statement rather than being "eyewitness" is rather deduced from the events.
He also mentions the words of first responders about other explosions. He would have been a key witness if alive-- his oral testimony still stands
Quite. And had the buildings started to collapse, it would have been obvious to him that it was exterior, and much more powerful, 'explosively', than what suddenly occured on the descent of the staircase.
Also, from virtually any position in WT7, there would be, if not direct sight of the Towers, a reflection from other nearby buildings.
But essentially we all don't have any serious problems here; we are virtually all in agreement Barry Jennings was assassinated; why otherwise the super peculiar behaviour of the Gumshoe giving back the dosh, and demanding not to be contacted again, in conjunction with the extremely 'Cui bono' of his death.
In his BBC interview, he did not say there were no dead bodies he was walking over, he just stated he had not seen dead bodies, which fits in fine with the Loose Change final Cut interview, that he was told not to look down (strange request, unless there was something the rescuers did not want him to see.
Let's move on, folks. We agree; let's tackle the new 'Boston Brakes' revelations. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
1. What time did you arrive at the 23rd floor?
2. How do you know it was this time?
3. There were two stairwells in WTC7. Which one did you use when you went down (west or east one)?
4. Approximately what time did you start descending the stairs?
5. Approximately how long did it take you to get to the 6th floor?
6. After the explosion on the 6th floor, you climbed back up to the 8th floor. Did you leave the stairwell and enter the office area?
7. Could you see through the windows on all sides of the building?
8. Could you see through the windows on the south side?
9. Could you see the WTC1 and WTC2 standing?
10. Did you try to use the other stairwell to escape the building?
11. Which windows did you break with the fire extinguisher, and why did you choose those?
12. Could you walk freely throughout the 8th floor or were you restricted to certain areas? If restricted, what was restricting you?
Yes, clearly, Dylan Avery could have asked more detailed questions - however he was not to know that Jennings would be "dead" in just a few weeks time. I put the quotes around "dead" because there is precious little proof that he died since his family appeared to have moved out of NY and left no forwarding address.
Obviously it would be better to have these answers from Jennings but I think we have answers to 1 and 5 in his own words. He has apparently answered 8 and 9 by stating he saw the twin towers standing. The window on the North East seems likely for question 11 - that's where the fireman saw Hess. That's where they would expect help to come from: north of the WTC site and away from the towers.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:38 pm Post subject:
@scienceplease 2:
'I put the quotes around "dead" because there is precious little proof that he died since his family appeared to have moved out of NY and left no forwarding address..'
Good point. That's the first time that possibility has been aired, so far as I know. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
@scienceplease 2:
'I put the quotes around "dead" because there is precious little proof that he died since his family appeared to have moved out of NY and left no forwarding address..'
Good point. That's the first time that possibility has been aired, so far as I know.
Really? I'm surprised! I'm assuming that he (and probably many others) have been put into the US Witness Protection Programme... For example all those passengers on the 4 airliners... They could then be given a cushy job working for the DHS PsyOp teams.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Thu Sep 27, 2012 10:51 pm Post subject:
scienceplease 2 wrote:
outsider wrote:
@scienceplease 2:
'I put the quotes around "dead" because there is precious little proof that he died since his family appeared to have moved out of NY and left no forwarding address..'
Good point. That's the first time that possibility has been aired, so far as I know.
Really? I'm surprised! I'm assuming that he (and probably many others) have been put into the US Witness Protection Programme... For example all those passengers on the 4 airliners... They could then be given a cushy job working for the DHS PsyOp teams.
Still doesn't explain why this viewpoint (which I find highly plausible) has not cropped up, to my knowledge, before).
At a hazard, I would guess relocation in New Zealand or Australia, rather than in the US. And I do not believe he and his family would be a part of DHS shenanigans; fear for his self and family could certainly silence him, but I very much doubt that he would further their Luciferian agenda. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Personally I need more reputable/convincing closure on the these deaths.
With some of the so-called 19 'hijackers' re-surfacing alive and well, Bin Laden turned to ashes at sea, and numerous whistle-blowers mysteriously vanishing, I just don't get a warm fuzzy feeling with the 'official' stories.
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