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What that programme OMITTED spoke VOLUMES:
Off the top of my head:
NO INTERVIEW with William Rodriguez, the caretaker of the Twins, who said he was in the basement of one of the towers when he heard explosions & felt the rumbles from them (in more ways than one) BEFORE even the first 'plane' hit.
NO CLOSE-UP of the second 'plane' showing the spark before it just MELTED into the Tower & the SOFT CARBON NOSE CONE managed to escape being shredded by the internal columns to magically appear out the other side. HOW?? Because the 'LIVE' footage (delayed for at least 7 seconds) was overlayed with a computer simulated plane, the time delay being enough to do that with the technology they obviously have that is (& always has been) far in advance (at least 50 yrs) to what's in the public domain. What we know as 'cutting edge technology' is 50+ yrs old to the MANIACS responsible for this & other terrorist attacks (THEMSELVES being the terrorists).
NO MENTION of the FDNY men saying they heard explosions most of the day.
NO SHAKEY FOOTAGE caused by those explosions long before the Twins collapsed into their own footprint, as did building seven.
NO MENTION of Ground Zero being cleared BEFORE any investigation. It was a CRIME SCENE after all!! No mention of the STEEL COLUMNS that 'just happened' to be cut to the perfect length during the fall of the Twins to fit nicely onto the trucks, or the name of the company: CONTROLLED DEMOLITION, that took them away.
NO MENTION of the CCTV camera in the gas station over the road from the PentaGONE (wishful thinking) that filmed the whole thing & that the feds seized the film str8 away. The programme did show the grainy footage that was released to PROVE it was a plane, yet it didn't look like a plane, more like a missile.
NO MENTION of how the plane engines magically 'disintegrated' along with the rest of the plane, yet somehow HUMAN DNA survived & was collected to ID some of the passengers.
NO MENTION of Bush saying he saw the first plane hit on live TV even before the second one had hit. He said "That's one terrible pilot." He's one terrible LIAR!
NO MENTION of how bad the 'trainee pilots' were, or that they were trained in U.S.A.
NO MENTION of the meetings with M. ATTA in the weeks before or the thousands of dollars that was wired to him. What were those meetings about?? What was he paid for??
NO MENTION of the miraculous MOBILE PHONE CALLS made from FLIGHT 93. Miraculous because it WASN'T POSSIBLE in 2001 to be able to make mobile phone calls from planes in mid air flight.
NO MENTION of the plane numbers that were STILL IN USE AFTERWARDS.
NO MENTION of the MASSIVE WHITE JET that was flying around.
NO MENTION of the BIN LADEN FAMILY MEMBERS that were flown out when a NO FLY ZONE was (supposedly) in force.
Please post anything else I haven't mentioned.
The PATRONISING TONE in which this programme was presented was an attempt to silence the 'conspiracy theorists' once & for all. Well it WON'T WORK!! Just typical BBC IMpropaganda. Move along now, nothing to see here, your government will protect you. WHO PROTECTS US FROM THE GOVERNMENT?? NOT THE ARMY OR POLICE. THEY ALL SERVE THE GOVERNMENT. ALL THREE ARE SUPPOSED TO SERVE THE PEOPLE!! OR WAS THAT JUST A RUMOUR I HEARD ONCE A LONG, LONG TIME AGO?? |
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| Dave Barnby wrote: | The BBC (State Broadcaster) did a desperate programme - 'Conspiracy Theories', on 9/11 last night (CH2).
The very name of the programme was pejorative, meaning that anything that goes against the official line is a lie.
This is the second (at least to my knowledge) programme by the BBC made to discredit the 9/11 Truth Movement.
The procedure was standard: to air the 'conspiracy theory' and then discredit it. All the Conspiracy Theories programmes follow this set pattern of, 'air' and 'discredit'.
There was no airing of the official line and analysis of it (I suspect that it would not stand up to scrutiny since the official report was wheeled out soon after the event as though it had been drafted before 9/11), just discredit the points made by 9/11 Truth Movement and demolish one by one, although to my mind they failed to demolish most of the points.
There was no explanation of how Building 47 came to collapse although not having been struck by a plane. In fact there were many aspects, which presumably were difficult to challenge, that were ignored.
There was no proper analysis of possible motives for governmental involvement in 9/11 (and there are plenty as have been revealed since that dreadful day).
I will concede that some of the theories were a bit far fetched, but these were made by the Beeb itself and not by anyone from Truth Movement. In other words they grabbed at any ideas that were obviously ridiculous, but unattributed, and easily demolished them.
The witnesses used for their demolition were often CIA and therefore suspect and other witnesses came out of nowhere and one wonders why they had suddenly been brought out of the woodwork after al this time.
'The lady doth protest too much, methinks'
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 6:03 am Post subject: 9/11 Ten Years On dispelled ten years of fantasy |
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Metro review: 9/11 Ten Years On dispelled ten years of fantasy
http://www.metro.co.uk/tv/reviews/873825-the-conspiracy-files-9-11-ten -years-on-dispelled-ten-years-of-fantasy
With the advent of the internet conspiracy theories surrounding the 9/11 attacks have reached a larger audience than perhaps any other event and have raged on for nearly ten years.
The Conspiracy Files: Ten Years On aimed to put an end to this, detailing each preposterous theory and then shooting it down with fairly incontrovertible proof.
The error however was in entertaining the theories at all and the documentary lingered on each hypothesis for a little too long for no reason other than sheer sensationalism, adding legitimacy to a largely YouTube-based debate - an arena in which streams of Justin Bieber songs altered to sound as though they were performed by chipmunks can garner 47 million views.
All the classics were here; the exploding column supports on lower Twin Tower floors, the small hole made in the Pentagon wall, the debris found miles from the United 93 crash site.
Sherlock Holmes said that when you’ve eliminated the impossible whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth’ one conspiracy theorist informed us.
Well, Willy Wonka said: ‘Invention, my dear friends, is 93% perspiration, 6% electricity, 4% evaporation, and 2% butterscotch ripple’ but you don’t see Apple bringing out a Snozzberry iPad, so perhaps we shouldn’t base our judgements on those of fictional characters.
While some of the technical incongruences surrounding the four aeroplane crashes were vaguely worth of attention, the overarching idea that the US government was behind the attacks was surely, whatever your political persuasion, preposterous.
Do people really believe that there was a 'rogue' group of megalomaniac government officials who watched the orchestrated destruction of 3000 lives and rubbed their hands with glee because in the long term the US would reap some lucrative oil contracts from it? Come on.
There is such guilt in the US about the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan that many almost want to believe that the invasions formed part of an elaborate government cover-up, as if it distances them and makes them feel less complicit in America's dealings in the Middle East.
American foreign policy has certainly proved worthy of debate in recent years, but these fantastical theories serve only to distract from them, along with the serious issue of whether corners are being cut when it comes to the building of high-rise skyscrapers.
These blockbuster notions of government inside jobs are ultimately disrespectful to the dead and I’d like to be able to say that The Conspiracy Files: Ten Years On will put an end to them, but more than likely it will just drive more viewers to grainy YouTube clips of false evidence.
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| Quote: | | Do people really believe that there was a 'rogue' group of megalomaniac government officials who watched the orchestrated destruction of 3000 lives and rubbed their hands with glee because in the long term the US would reap some lucrative oil contracts from it? Come on. |
Of course Hitler was just a nice politician.
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| Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2011 10:30 pm Post subject: Re: 9/11 Ten Years On dispelled ten years of fantasy |
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| scubadiver wrote: | | ...along with the serious issue of whether corners are being cut when it comes to the building of high-rise skyscrapers. |
Sure but nobody has asked that... did NIST investigate whether skyscrapers are inherently unsafe? Er, no. How about the actual design of the twin towers? (Designed to the very highest standards at the time: Hurricanes, earthquakes and 707s crashes) No. How about WTC7? The Building-within-a-building - extra strength to take heavy machinery? No. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-pFzOo5YM
Niels Harrit and Mike Rudin interview in full
Just shows the power of the edit
Anyone who remembers the programme will recall that Niels' work was dismissed by 2 so-called experts who asserted that whilst they couldn't be arsed to do any experiments or work themselves, they suggest that they could explain Niels' claims by suggesting the iron oxide/termite spheres originated from the paint in the building |
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| ian neal wrote: | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IT-pFzOo5YM
Niels Harrit and Mike Rudin interview in full
Just shows the power of the edit
Anyone who remembers the programme will recall that Niels' work was dismissed by 2 so-called experts who asserted that whilst they couldn't be arsed to do any experiments or work themselves, they suggest that they could explain Niels' claims by suggesting the iron oxide/termite spheres originated from the paint in the building |
Rudin also says in the full interview there was no eyewitnesses to molten metal. If he wants to accept eyewitnesses of plane and body parts at pentagon he should do the honorable thing and admit molten steel
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