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The founder of WikiLeaks, Julian Assange, attended the protests in London that are part of a worldwide action against corporate greed and austerity measures. Assange said that he was there to show his solidarity with the Occupy London movement, which was inspired by the Occupy Wall Street protests in the US. Assange traveled to London from his friend Vaughan Smith's country mansion in Suffolk, eastern England. Assange is living there on bail as he fights extradition to Sweden, where he is wanted for questioning over allegations of rape and sexual assault made by two women.
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_________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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Occupy Glasgow got off to a slow but encouraging start. When OccupyWallSt first sprung up, the numbers were low, and just look at it now.
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Police in London thwarted protesters' efforts to set up camp outside the Stock Exchange. Several hundred activists heckled officers for preventing more people from joining the rally. Thousands of protesters nicknamed "the indignant" marched in major European cities on Saturday as demonstrations against corruption, capitalism and austerity measures went global. Demonstrations that began in New York linked up with long-running rallies against government cost-cutting and failed financial policies in Europe.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 10:56 am Post subject: UK - Occupy City of London camp at St. Pauls
How fascinating.
Protesters vote to stay at St Paul's Cathedral despite the evil Dean
The campers are now dealing with the heart of the beast - much like Gaddafi trying to negotiate with Blair, Palestinians trying to negotiate with Netanyahu or Irish Catholics trying to negotiate with Northern Irish Orange men.
This is the first time St. Pauls has been closed since the second world war - and it's been closed on entrely false and spurious grounds.
Masonic CofE rulers are finally showing their hand and bringing the church into disrepute. Time for them to hand over this great building to the people who really do recognse evil when they see it and follow Christs teachings more than they do.
And Right Reverend Graeme Knowles making it clear he has not the faintest idea of or connection with the teachings of Jesus.
Then there is the Corporation of London they have to deal with. That power is 100% freemasonry and duplicious greed.
All designed to give the campers - like the Dale Farm travellers - something to think about to divert the from their holy mission to articulate the people's solution to the crisis of greed and a flthy political system here in Britain.
The people versus the fake Christians and the City.
Let us hope and pray for the vicory of righteousness.
This is a batte every bit as important as that raging in Afghanistan.
Maybe the protesters should appeal to NATO for rocket launchers, explosives and SAS support
Occupy London Protest: St. Paul's More Concerned About Tourists' Wallets then Protesters in Need?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-15413255 By Alastair Stevenson | October 20, 2011 10:05 AM GMT
With the London branch of the Occupy protests camped on its door steps, St. Paul's Cathedral has issued a statement suggesting protesters should think of the long term damage their actions are inflicting on St. Paul's ability to operate.
St. Paul's released its statement regarding the Occupy London protest Tuesday.
"St Paul's Cathedral stated on Monday that it was still trying to provide worship and welcome to all in spite of the presence of the protest camp in the churchyard. St Paul's asked everyone to respect this need and to acknowledge the risk to the life of the cathedral posed by the current situation," read its opening statement.
http://uk.ibtimes.com/articles/234635/20111020/occupy-london-protest-s t-paul-s-more-concerned-about-tourists-wallets-then-protesters-in-need .htm
most interesting aspect of all this is demands peple are articulating such as these - please post them up o this thread if you find any - I've heard rupours of 6 deands and 7 demands...
http://occupylondon.org.uk/
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:38 am Post subject:
Arrogant masonic-Torygraph - the paper that ran the MPs expenses theft of the house of commons hard drive - are calling on protesters to direct their anger at MPs rather than the bankers
The occupiers are often accused of being against banks but not having any concrete demands. They need to know how banking system really works and that without changing the way that money is created there is little chance of getting real change.
We have been down to St.Paul’s Cathedral few times with flyers and banners, speaking to people and we discovered that the majority of occupiers and visitors still don’t know anything about the fact that banks create money as debt and what consequences this has. To help spreading the word you can download some or all of the following flyers and draw the attention of the “occupiers” to the real core of the problem.
Our main focus in next couple of months will be education about how our money and banking system really works. We will aim to translate all technical language into an easier digestible format and we are going to produce much more videos.
We are looking for volunteers who can help with video editing and animators. It is necessary to work in our office in London as it will require a lot of consultations and close cooperation with our team. Thanks to the James Gibb Stuart Trust, we have been able to invest in a computer that will be dedicated to video editing. If you have experiences with video editing (or are willing to learn) and are willing to donate a day a week, please reply to this email (info [at] positivemoney [dot] org [dot] uk). If you know somebody who might be interested, please forward him/her this request.
The occupiers are often accused of being against banks but not having any concrete demands. They need to know how banking system really works and that without changing the way that money is created there is little chance of getting real change.
We have been down to St.Paul’s Cathedral few times with flyers and banners, speaking to people and we discovered that the majority of occupiers and visitors still don’t know anything about the fact that banks create money as debt and what consequences this has. To help spreading the word you can download some or all of the following flyers and draw the attention of the “occupiers” to the real core of the problem.
Our main focus in next couple of months will be education about how our money and banking system really works. We will aim to translate all technical language into an easier digestible format and we are going to produce much more videos.
We are looking for volunteers who can help with video editing and animators. It is necessary to work in our office in London as it will require a lot of consultations and close cooperation with our team. Thanks to the James Gibb Stuart Trust, we have been able to invest in a computer that will be dedicated to video editing. If you have experiences with video editing (or are willing to learn) and are willing to donate a day a week, please reply to this email (info [at] positivemoney [dot] org [dot] uk). If you know somebody who might be interested, please forward him/her this request.
This positivemoney.org.uk website is to do with Ben Dyson, and you only have to watch his videos and read his comments to see that he does not know what he's talking about or is pretending that he does.
OK but I mostly posted it here for the Demo details _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Matthew 23:
1 - Then spake Jesus to the multitude, and to his disciples,
2 - Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:
3 - All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not.
4 - For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers.
5 - But all their works they do for to be seen of men: they make broad their phylacteries, and enlarge the borders of their garments,
6 - And love the uppermost rooms at feasts, and the chief seats in the synagogues,
7 - And greetings in the markets, and to be called of men, Rabbi, Rabbi.
8 - But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren.
9 - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.
10 - Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.
11 - But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.
12 - And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.
13 - But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in.
14 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation.
15 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.
16 - Woe unto you, ye blind guides, which say, Whosoever shall swear by the temple, it is nothing; but whosoever shall swear by the gold of the temple, he is a debtor!
17 - Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gold, or the temple that sanctifieth the gold?
18 - And, Whosoever shall swear by the altar, it is nothing; but whosoever sweareth by the gift that is upon it, he is guilty.
19 - Ye fools and blind: for whether is greater, the gift, or the altar that sanctifieth the gift?
20 - Whoso therefore shall swear by the altar, sweareth by it, and by all things thereon.
21 - And whoso shall swear by the temple, sweareth by it, and by him that dwelleth therein.
22 - And he that shall swear by heaven, sweareth by the throne of God, and by him that sitteth thereon.
23 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.
24 - Ye blind guides, which strain at a gnat, and swallow a camel.
25 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye make clean the outside of the cup and of the platter, but within they are full of extortion and excess.
26 - Thou blind Pharisee, cleanse first that which is within the cup and platter, that the outside of them may be clean also.
27 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are like unto whited sepulchres, which indeed appear beautiful outward, but are within full of dead men's bones, and of all uncleanness.
28 - Even so ye also outwardly appear righteous unto men, but within ye are full of hypocrisy and iniquity.
29 - Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! because ye build the tombs of the prophets, and garnish the sepulchres of the righteous,
30 - And say, If we had been in the days of our fathers, we would not have been partakers with them in the blood of the prophets.
31 - Wherefore ye be witnesses unto yourselves, that ye are the children of them which killed the prophets.
32 - Fill ye up then the measure of your fathers.
33 - Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell?
34 - Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city:
35 - That upon you may come all the righteous blood shed upon the earth, from the blood of righteous Abel unto the blood of Zacharias son of Barachias, whom ye slew between the temple and the altar.
36 - Verily I say unto you, All these things shall come upon this generation.
37 - O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!
38 - Behold, your house is left unto you desolate.
39 - For I say unto you, Ye shall not see me henceforth, till ye shall say, Blessed is he that cometh in the name of the Lord.
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=matthew%2023:1-39&version= KJV
But never mind Jesus - there is a stark reminder from Yahweh - or God himself - via Moses of course http://bible.cc/leviticus/25-23.htm
The land, he says, is MINE, addressing the Chapter of St Pauls, and you are but my tenants.
The chapter ignore that comand at the peril of their mortal souls.
Which suggests that in reality they do not follow Christ and they do not even believe in the soul. They are all frauds.
All except one - and he has now been cast out.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2011 11:42 am Post subject:
Moneychangers throwing the real Jesus followers out of the temple
Soon Bishop Michael will be left alone with just his Masonic buddies for company
God vs Mammon: Britain takes sides
As St Paul's reopens its doors, the City of London and the cathedral launch legal actions to evict demonstrators, another clergyman resigns in dismay, David Cameron threatens legislation to ban protest camps – and the Archbishop of Canterbury...says nothing
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/god-vs-mammon-britain-t akes-sides-2377387.html
Rev Fraser Dyer 'Why I am resigning from St Pauls'
You say 'cut back', we say 'liberation theology'
Dear Bishop Michael,
I appreciate what a difficult couple of weeks the Dean and Chapter have had following the occupation of the cathedral precinct by protestors campaigning against corporate greed. You have been much in my thoughts and prayers as you have navigated the complex issues with which you have been presented, and the negative press which arose from the decision to close the cathedral. I am delighted that a way was found to reopen the building today which satisfied the cathedral's duty of care towards its worshippers and visitors, and have been impressed by the degree of cooperation that Occupy London offered to enable this to happen.
It has therefore been disappointing to learn of today's announcement that St Paul's will instigate legal proceedings seeking the removal of the protestors. It is particularly poignant that this announcement comes on the day that IDS report an increase in top directors' pay of almost 50% over the last year. I appreciate that St Paul's has its own means of speaking to the issue of corporate and financial conduct in the City, but am sorry that a way could not be found of - at the very least - continuing to thole the occupation of the precinct by those with a genuine and prophetic complaint that has much in keeping with the values of the gospel.
I only recently joined the cathedral's pastoral team and it has been a privilege to minister to the building's many visitors. I was looking forward to more opportunities to do so. Today, however, I am left feeling embarrassed by the position the Dean and Chapter have taken. I do not relish the prospect of having to defend the cathedral's position in the face of the inevitable questions that visitors to St Paul's will pose in the coming weeks and months, particularly if we are to see protestors forcibly removed by police at the Dean and Chapter's behest. It is therefore with regret that I write to inform you of my decision to stand down from the pastoral team with immediate effect.
I continue to wish you well, and a strengthening of discernment, as the situation continues to play out. All of the staff and volunteers at St Paul's remain much in my prayers at this difficult time.
With warmest good wishes,
Fraser.
Clerics suppress report on bankers' greed to save church embarrassment
Brian Brady, Jane Merrick
Sunday, 30 October 2011
A highly critical report into the moral standards of bankers has been suppressed by St Paul's Cathedral amid fears that it would inflame tensions over the Occupy London tent protest.
The report, based on a survey of 500 City workers who were asked whether they thought they were worth their lucrative salaries and bonuses, was due to be published last Thursday, the day that the Canon Chancellor of St Paul's, Giles Fraser, resigned in protest at the church's tough stance.
But publication of the report, by the St Paul's Institute, has been delayed in an apparent acknowledgement that it would leave the impression that the cathedral was on the side of the protesters.
Great the UK Occupy movement seems to have been hijacked by socialists, communists, anarchists and globalists.
Great!
What a great bunch of people, singing the "Internationale" and flying red flags. Maybe worth remembering how many people have been killed by these movements over the last 100 years and their links to the same corporatism they are supposedly protesting! Think!
There is "Commonly Known As Dom" spouting his nonsense about law and his belief that anarchism (while drowning everyone else out and insulting them, including nuns!) would be more preferable - yeah well we seen that in action in August. No thanks, I be out killing looters in that scenario!
There is the Anonymous camp, no one knows their leader, they have some great you tube videos VERY PROFESSIONAL, but has anyone else clicked yet?
With the likes of Billy Bragg, Assange, Commonly Known As Dom, Bruce Kent, etc addressing the protest camp all we need now is Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-il, Vladimir Putin, Alvin Toffler, Fabian protégé David Chaplin, et al.
THE CITY OF LONDON and THE FABIAN SOCIETY: HISTORY and CURRENT PLANS
They are ****ing laughing guys! If this is all "we" are capable of! A totally dominated and subverted "Occupy movement".
The average person takes one look at this lot and switches off completely. They don't want their version of socialism, they've seen it before. They don't want anarchy, common sense tells them that is insane, they certainly don't want communism and we're all had enough globalism over the last 30 years to last an entire lifetime!
Great the UK Occupy movement seems to have been hijacked by socialists, communists, anarchists and globalists.
Great!
What a great bunch of people, singing the "Internationale" and flying red flags. Maybe worth remembering how many people have been killed by these movements over the last 100 years and their links to the same corporatism they are supposedly protesting! Think!
There is "Commonly Known As Dom" spouting his nonsense about law and his belief that anarchism (while drowning everyone else out and insulting them, including nuns!) would be more preferable - yeah well we seen that in action in August. No thanks, I be out killing looters in that scenario!
There is the Anonymous camp, no one knows their leader, they have some great you tube videos VERY PROFESSIONAL, but has anyone else clicked yet?
With the likes of Billy Bragg, Assange, Commonly Known As Dom, Bruce Kent, etc addressing the protest camp all we need now is Ahmadinejad, Kim Jong-il, Vladimir Putin, Alvin Toffler, Fabian protégé David Chaplin, et al.
THE CITY OF LONDON and THE FABIAN SOCIETY: HISTORY and CURRENT PLANS
They are ****ing laughing guys! If this is all "we" are capable of! A totally dominated and subverted "Occupy movement".
The average person takes one look at this lot and switches off completely. They don't want their version of socialism, they've seen it before. They don't want anarchy, common sense tells them that is insane, they certainly don't want communism and we're all had enough globalism over the last 30 years to last an entire lifetime!
Quote:
http://www.tpuc.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=38221
commonly known as dom arrested, charged with breaching the peace and imprisoned today at Wandsworth for attempting to break up a fight at the occupation. He's appearing before City magistrates at 10am tomorrow morning. Support very welcome
RE: commonly known as Dom.
has been arrested at st pauls and is at court at city of london magistrate tomorrow 11th nov 2011 1 queen victoria street ec4n 4xy
and has asked for any support from the freeman organisation based in the london area to be present tomorrow 9 o clock call this number 07904058312 FOR MORE INFO
Everything is based on a "system" and before people like Dom start talking about that "system" it would be a good idea to know why there is a "system" in the first place. Otherwise you have to be part of the 0.1% that believe that everyone else is wrong and just stupid and only you know the answers to their problems.
It's interesting that his "freeman" concept hasn't saved him from being locked up. Having seen him in action speaking and seen how mesmerised his followers become listening to him I'm convinced he is either a complete egomaniac control freak or some kind of Manchurian candidate.
As for what happened I have an open mind as the guy gets quite aggressive when talking.
He's probably being re-programmed with more nonsense on anarchism and the law. God knows they need their useful idiots.
jazds wrote:
Quote:
Everything is based on a "system" and before people like Dom start talking about that "system" it would be a good idea to know why there is a "system" in the first place. Otherwise you have to be part of the 0.1% that believe that everyone else is wrong and just stupid and only you know the answers to their problems.
It's interesting that his "freeman" concept hasn't saved him from being locked up. Having seen him in action speaking and seen how mesmerised his followers become listening to him I'm convinced he is either a complete egomaniac control freak or some kind of Manchurian candidate.
As for what happened I have an open mind as the guy gets quite aggressive when talking.
This shows that he Dom knows how corrupt the so-called laws are, but he like you doesn’t know how they should be either.
If you like on another thread we can discuss the Law jazds?
The point I'm making is Dom seems to think he knows everything and he doesn't believe in law full stop. There's where his entire point falls down a giant chasm.
I wouldn't argue that the law is corrupt, or at the very least is subverted by those at the top of the food chain to serve themselves.
I am annoyed that the Occupy Movement has been hijacked by the groups I mentioned above that's all.
Like 99% of the truthers I know, I don't want "their" version of socialism (although I'd rather have state controlled utilities, public transport and a ban on corporations) - do we really want socialism aka China or go back to 70's Britain?, i don't want anarchy, i don't want Marxism, or communism and i certainly don't want MORE globalism!
I'm seeing the same arguments from the occupy camp as you would have heard in a Workers Socialist Party meeting.
I thought this movement was supposed to appeal to EVERYONE!
The point I'm making is Dom seems to think he knows everything and he doesn't believe in law full stop. There's where his entire point falls down a giant chasm.
I wouldn't argue that the law is corrupt, or at the very least is subverted by those at the top of the food chain to serve themselves.
I am annoyed that the Occupy Movement has been hijacked by the groups I mentioned above that's all.
Like 99% of the truthers I know, I don't want "their" version of socialism (although I'd rather have state controlled utilities, public transport and a ban on corporations) - do we really want socialism aka China or go back to 70's Britain?, i don't want anarchy, i don't want Marxism, or communism and i certainly don't want MORE globalism!
I'm seeing the same arguments from the occupy camp as you would have heard in a Workers Socialist Party meeting.
I thought this movement was supposed to appeal to EVERYONE!
What Dom is quoting, is all stuff from the so-called freeman movement and it is all over the shop (Anarchy) with all manner of different opinions, other than seeing the current legislation as corrupt. My point was that if we don't all agree on what the Law is, then we are all pulling in different directions and that is also anarchy.
What we need is an INCLUSIVE movement, not an EXCLUSIVE movement and more of the same LEFT v RIGHT politics.
Here is our greatest enemy - more of the same.
Agreed, but:
Quote:
(although I'd rather have state controlled utilities, public transport and a ban on corporations)
Could people also have the freedom to grow their own food (which can be freely provided, via the land) provide their own water, electric, and so on as a choice of either?
Could people also have the freedom to grow their own food (which can be freely provided, via the land) provide their own water, electric, and so on as a choice of either?
Could people also have the freedom to grow their own food (which can be freely provided, via the land) provide their own water, electric, and so on as a choice of either?
I see the problem as Globalism being pushed by big corporations as they know they cannot expand without it.
Sovereignty of Nations kept Corporations in check by trade agreements etc.
Once this obstacle is passed, when they hit the Global Barrier what next?
Corporations Waring Corporations with Standing Army Slaves?
Maybe if we cannot prevent the growth of Corporations, maybe through treaties we can force ethical and sustaining policy for the betterment of the Human Race not the Corporate Portfolio Book? _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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