Senate Moves To Allow Military To Intern Americans Without Trial
NDAA detention provision would turn America into a “battlefield”
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet.com
Saturday, November 26, 2011
The Senate is set to vote on a bill next week that would define the whole of the United States as a “battlefield” and allow the U.S. Military to arrest American citizens in their own back yard without charge or trial.
“The Senate is going to vote on whether Congress will give this president—and every future president — the power to order the military to pick up and imprison without charge or trial civilians anywhere in the world. The power is so broad that even U.S. citizens could be swept up by the military and the military could be used far from any battlefield, even within the United States itself,” writes Chris Anders of the ACLU Washington Legislative Office.
Under the ‘worldwide indefinite detention without charge or trial’ provision of S.1867, the National Defense Authorization Act bill, which is set to be up for a vote on the Senate floor Monday, the legislation will “basically say in law for the first time that the homeland is part of the battlefield,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who supports the bill.
The bill was drafted in secret by Senators Carl Levin (D-Mich.) and John McCain (R-Ariz.), before being passed in a closed-door committee meeting without any kind of hearing. The language appears in sections 1031 and 1032 of the NDAA bill.
“I would also point out that these provisions raise serious questions as to who we are as a society and what our Constitution seeks to protect,” Colorado Senator Mark Udall said in a speech last week. One section of these provisions, section 1031, would be interpreted as allowing the military to capture and indefinitely detain American citizens on U.S. soil. Section 1031 essentially repeals the Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 by authorizing the U.S. military to perform law enforcement functions on American soil. That alone should alarm my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, but there are other problems with these provisions that must be resolved.”
This means Americans could be declared domestic terrorists and thrown in a military brig with no recourse whatsoever. Given that the Department of Homeland Security has characterized behavior such as buying gold, owning guns, using a watch or binoculars, donating to charity, using the telephone or email to find information, using cash, and all manner of mundane behaviors as potential indicators of domestic terrorism, such a provision would be wide open to abuse.
“American citizens and people picked up on American or Canadian or British streets being sent to military prisons indefinitely without even being charged with a crime. Really? Does anyone think this is a good idea? And why now?” asks Anders.
The ACLU is urging citizens to call their Senator and demand that the Udall Amendment be added to the bill, a change that would at least act as a check to prevent Americans being snatched off the streets without some form of Congressional oversight.
We have been warning for over a decade that Americans would become the target of laws supposedly aimed at terrorists and enemy combatants. Alex Jones personally documented how U.S. troops were being trained to arrest U.S. citizens in the event of martial law during urban warfare training drills back in the 90′s. Under the the National Defense Authorization Act bill, no declaration of martial law is necessary since Americans would now be subject to the same treatment as suspected insurgents in places like Afghanistan and Iraq.
If you thought that the executive assassination of American citizens abroad was bad enough, now similar powers will be extended to the “homeland,” in other words, your town, your community, your back yard.
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Paul Joseph Watson is the editor and writer for Prison Planet.com. He is the author of Order Out Of Chaos. Watson is also a regular fill-in host for The Alex Jones Show.
Also, along with this link, I got the following commentary from a guy in the States:
'Know what is underlying all of this unconstitutional s**t
right now????
It is Bush Jr's Emergency Declaration........still in effect
based on 9/11.......and it OVERRULED the entire constitution according to Bush's legal guys......and this judgment has been accepted by most courts.
So, we are actually living under Martial Law right now.....same as under Lincoln during the Civil War...." A State of Emergency".
THAT is what 9/11 was designed to bring AND IT DID!!!!!!
THE CONSTITUTION HAS BEEN SUSPENDED AND UNLESS WE START (word removed to protect sender)....
--and start with the right ones--WE ARE ALL DONE FOR.....America is NOW NAZI GERMANY........or Stalinest USSR if you like that analogy better.
COG stuff is all "emergency governance" under a "suspended Constitution"......i.e. marshal law....or a Military dictatorship.....
whatever you wish to call it.
There is not ONE American in 10,000 who even knows this........thus they have got the lot of us all confused with the "unconstitutional" stuff that they never fess up the underlying outrage to justify.....they LIKE US ALL CONFUSED. Confusion does not git organized! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Sen. Rand Paul, (R-Ky.), explains why he is fighting to stop a bill that would codify the detention of American citizens indefinitely by the U.S. Military.
Forget about the obvious violation of Constitutional rights that the recently-approved $662 billion Defense Authorization bill inflicts by allowing for indefinite military detention of United States citizens without formal charges or trial by a jury of peers, the justification for doing so just became more absurd. In the clip below, Rand Paul (R-KY) asks John McCain (R-AZ), "if an American citizen is declared an enemy combatant, could they be sent to Guantanamo Bay and detained indefinitely?"
To which McCain replied affirmative; "If they pose a threat to the security of the United States of America." McCain claimed this new anti-American authority was needed because of the "facts" that "27% of detainees who were released get back into the fight."
These so-called facts that McCain has repeatedly regurgitated have long been debunked.
A 2009 report (PDF) by Seton Hall Law Professor Mark Denbeaux found that DOD's claim referring to GITMO detainees returning to the battlefield to be pure fiction.
"Once again, they've failed to identify names, numbers, dates, times, places, or acts upon which their report relies," Denbaux said in a statement accompanying his report released.
"Every time they have been required to identify the parties, the DOD has been forced to retract their false IDs and their numbers. They have included people who have never even set foot in Guantánamo—much less were they released from there. They have counted people as 'returning to the fight' for their having written an Op-ed piece in the New York Times and for their having appeared in a documentary exhibited at the Cannes Film Festival. The DOD has revised and retracted their internally conflicting definitions, criteria, and their numbers so often that they have ceased to have any meaning—except as an effort to sway public opinion by painting a false portrait of the supposed dangers of these men."
Denbaux also said that the Defense Department has admitted that "they do not track" former detainees. "Rather than making up numbers 'willy-nilly' about post release conduct, America might be better served if our government actually kept track of them," he added.
Even according to the U.S. Government's own figures, McCain is grossly exaggerating the number. In December 2010, Director of National Intelligence, James Clapper, claimed that 13.5 percent (PDF) of former Guantanamo detainees are "confirmed" to have returned to the battlefield. Yet, even that figure was proven to be an outright fraud.
In January 2011, the New America Foundation, a non-partisan public policy think tank, released a report contradicting Clapper's alarmist claims. The report found that if the Pentagon-released names can be believed, at best, only 6% of tortured and released detainees found their way back to the battlefield.
Clearly, the idea of indefinitely detaining American citizens in military prisons on the suspicion of being a "threat" to U.S. security is a gross violation of the principles on which America was founded. But what's worse, is justifying such tyranny with outright lies and distortion. Even more disgusting, is McCain and other entrenched politicians know this and yet they continue their wickedness against the American people and the Constitution. Source: http://www.activistpost.com/2011/11/mccain-justifies-indefinite-detent ion.html
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Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2011 11:24 pm Post subject:
Thanks for 'Further Info', D_D.
I believe many of the Truth Movement are in denial re the speed the NWO is advancing it's plans, which basically many accept as being true(depopulation, World Government, Full Spectrum Dominance).
They cling to a forlorn hope the 'Arab Spring' and ''99%" Occupy Movement shows 'we' are winning.
Well, we ain't, and sorry to say, we won't.
The small number of people watching this thread, and your welllcome but sole response so far, indicates 'wishful thinking' writ large.
Yep, many accept the 'population culling' and Global World Government' plans of the NWO are real; but nope, they don't realise they are forging ahead, making like bandits, whilst we on the whole don't realise they are doing it now, and tomorrow, and the next day....
Workers, students, Muslims, Christians, Jews, other faiths, and Left intelectuals, unite to at least slow the pace.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls.
'First they came for the 'Communists', then they came for the Muslims.....' _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
I believe many of the Truth Movement are in denial re the speed the NWO is advancing it's plans, which basically many accept as being true(depopulation, World Government, Full Spectrum Dominance).
They cling to a forlorn hope the 'Arab Spring' and ''99%" Occupy Movement shows 'we' are winning.
Well, we ain't, and sorry to say, we won't.
The small number of people watching this thread, and your welllcome but sole response so far, indicates 'wishful thinking' writ large.
Yep, many accept the 'population culling' and Global World Government' plans of the NWO are real; but nope, they don't realise they are forging ahead, making like bandits, whilst we on the whole don't realise they are doing it now, and tomorrow, and the next day....
Workers, students, Muslims, Christians, Jews, other faiths, and Left intelectuals, unite to at least slow the pace.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls.
'First they came for the 'Communists', then they came for the Muslims.....'
I'm forever thinking... what needs to be done... Suggestions welcome.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2011 10:16 pm Post subject:
scienceplease 2 wrote:
outsider wrote:
Thanks for 'Further Info', D_D.
I believe many of the Truth Movement are in denial re the speed the NWO is advancing it's plans, which basically many accept as being true(depopulation, World Government, Full Spectrum Dominance).
They cling to a forlorn hope the 'Arab Spring' and ''99%" Occupy Movement shows 'we' are winning.
Well, we ain't, and sorry to say, we won't.
The small number of people watching this thread, and your welcome but sole response so far, indicates 'wishful thinking' writ large.
Yep, many accept the 'population culling' and Global World Government' plans of the NWO are real; but nope, they don't realise they are forging ahead, making like bandits, whilst we on the whole don't realise they are doing it now, and tomorrow, and the next day....
Workers, students, Muslims, Christians, Jews, other faiths, and Left intellectuals, unite to at least slow the pace.
Ask not for whom the bell tolls.
'First they came for the 'Communists', then they came for the Muslims.....'
I'm forever thinking... what needs to be done... Suggestions welcome.
OWS is the best effort yet...
I wish I knew what would energise and prioritise the knowledge of ordinary folk of the headlong race to hell in a handcart (or rather, in a vast, 'money' (and lives) no object Diabolical Juggernaut) of the 'Global Elites'.
I would have little problem with their headlong race, were they the only ones involved, but of course they get the public to pay for it with their taxes, and to suffer for it via wars, famines and pestilences.
Though continually disillusioned by people's lack of awareness or even interest, I shall continue plodding on, trying to enlighten virtually everyone I encounter or have any dealings with to the obviousness of 9/11 being an 'Inside Job', and that it was not a one-off, but has a great deal of precedents. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Though continually disillusioned by people's lack of awareness or even interest, I shall continue plodding on, trying to enlighten virtually everyone I encounter or have any dealings with to the obviousness of 9/11 being an 'Inside Job', and that it was not a one-off, but has a great deal of precedents.
Indeed. I, too, am forever amazed at the lack of awareness or even interest. It seems like we've all been breed to exhibit kitten like behaviour - just waiting for the next thought to arrive from the Muddoch-Messiah or the Ministry of Truth, Auntie Beeb.
In a dramatic shift, British Olympic officials doubled the funding on Monday to protect venues at the 2012 London Games, raising overall security costs to more than STG1 billion (£271m)...The increase comes after security reviews that suggested the initial estimate of 10,000 security guards contracted for the games would not be enough. Thousands of soldiers are now part of the planning, though officials have declined to reveal the exact number.
Newham Council’s decision to force residents to sign-in every visitor to their property in 30 tower blocks is a clear invasion of privacy and an entirely misguided response to a problem.
Recently, central bankers had a panic get together to stump up money to save European banks. Swiss media suggests three banks on the continent. In the US, Bank of America has shifted $75 trillion in derivates to one of their accounts that makes the Fed Reserve responsible for bailing them out. Derivatives are exploding.
They suspect a sudden collapse may lead to public protest and they may be getting ready.
Yes insidejob I agree, I also hear Chavez has requested his nations gold stocks back from our and Swiss vaults :0 _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
The link is no longer up.
Also, I can't find it on alternative links, or anything on internet about 600 Fema camps being readied for occupation, other than Tarpley/Alex Jones audio. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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So, 'amigos', I suggest you learn or brush up your Spanish, 'cos you may soon be 'on vacation' in 'Cuba Libre' (aka Gitmo), after Uncle Sam asks our traitorous and War Criminal Government to fly us off on a US extradition orders.
And the as*-protecting, snouts-in-the-trough politicians and journalists think they are safe?
They will be used as long as they are useful, then 'neutralised' as potential troublemakers when the full scale of the crackdown becomes apparent to them. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
IMPEACH All the Senators who Voted For Military Detainment of U.S. Citizens!
Target: The Senate of the United States
Sponsored by: The American People
Stand up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the American people! IMPEACH every single Senator who voted FOR the McCain/Levin "U.S. is a Battlefield" bill that gives the military the right to go to the houses of U.S. citizens and take them without charges or rights to a lawyer or trial for the rest of their lives! The Senators COMMITTED TREASON directly against the United States citizens!
Never mind it saying goal of 1000 - I had put in 10,000,000!
Please pass this along to everyone! Do not fear signing it. Because if we live in fear we will have lost! This is a way of peacefully standing up and saying we will NOT allow a handful of people take away the rights and freedoms of 300,000,000+ people!
The Senators did commit treason and we the people need to hold them accountable and say, "We will not let this happen."
This vote went directly against the U.S. Citizens Bill of Rights written by our Founding Fathers. It is the basis of the country and no group of people is allowed to take away our rights! Stand up for the country and what is right! Impeach/recall every single Senator who directly voted to destroy the Constitution!
IMPEACH All the Senators who Voted For Military Detainment of U.S. Citizens!
Target: The Senate of the United States
Sponsored by: The American People
Stand up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights of the American people! IMPEACH every single Senator who voted FOR the McCain/Levin "U.S. is a Battlefield" bill that gives the military the right to go to the houses of U.S. citizens and take them without charges or rights to a lawyer or trial for the rest of their lives! The Senators COMMITTED TREASON directly against the United States citizens!
Never mind it saying goal of 1000 - I had put in 10,000,000!
Please pass this along to everyone! Do not fear signing it. Because if we live in fear we will have lost! This is a way of peacefully standing up and saying we will NOT allow a handful of people take away the rights and freedoms of 300,000,000+ people!
The Senators did commit treason and we the people need to hold them accountable and say, "We will not let this happen."
This vote went directly against the U.S. Citizens Bill of Rights written by our Founding Fathers. It is the basis of the country and no group of people is allowed to take away our rights! Stand up for the country and what is right! Impeach/recall every single Senator who directly voted to destroy the Constitution!
Signed, Andrew, but with 29 standing ovations given to War Criminal Netanyahu in Congress, and a shower of crooks in the Supreme Court, it's an uphill struggle, or worse! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2012 12:08 pm Post subject:
From Infowars:
'Units of hundreds of military police officers trained to investigate crimes have been created by the marine corps and will “assist local authorities” in securing crime scenes and building cases, reports the Associated Press.
The report notes that “The battalions will be capable of helping control civil disturbances, handling detainees, carrying out forensic work, and using biometrics to identify suspects.”
While the units, each comprising 500 military police officers and dozens of dogs, will “deploy worldwide”, recent forays by the military into domestic policing in the United States may have some Americans wondering if the newly created “law enforcement battalions” will be used at home.
Maj. Jan Durham, commander of the 1st Law Enforcement Battalion at Camp Pendleton told the AP that marines deployed in Afghanistan and Iraq have increasingly acted as police, in addition to their combat duties. Durham noted that the policing role will now be cemented as a permanent feature of the US marine corps...'
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