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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2012 10:12 pm Post subject: Thu19Apr - 9/11 on Channel 4 |
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9/11 the Lost Tapes next week sometime apparently _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:59 am Post subject: |
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Channel 4: 9/11: The Lost Tapes
Channel 4 Thursday 19 April 2012 9PM
For the first time British audiences will hear newly released audio recordings which offer a unique insight and moving perspective on 9/11 and the fateful minutes that changed America forever.
On the morning of the attacks, hundreds of hours of military and air traffic control conversations were captured on tape painting a chilling and tragic picture of events spiralling inexorably out of control. With events unfolding at breakneck-speed, the tapes reveal in minute-by-minute detail, the chaos and confusion wrought by the attacks.
Revelations include how Air Force fighter jets, scrambled to protect Washington, set out in the wrong direction - ending up 60 miles out across the Atlantic ocean and that permission to shoot down hijacked passenger planes only came through after the last plane crashed.
And while air traffic controllers watched the second plane crash into the World Trade Center tower, fighter jets were still 100 miles away from New York and amid all the confusion it took 39 minutes for the news of United 93's hijack to reach the military.
With testimonies from the people who appear on the tapes, the film vividly conveys the emotion, courage and panic in the voices of air traffic controllers and military personnel whose job it was to protect America as it came under attack.
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I'm sure some of us have heard some of these recording before. They feature in the Pilots DVD releases.
They were released in September 2011.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2011/09/08/nyregion/911-tapes.html? hp
http://pilotsfor911truth.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=21596
http://www.rutgerslawreview.com/2011/full-audio-transcript/
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scienceplease 2 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:01 pm Post subject: |
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Why were the tapes "lost"? Ten years to fiddle with them? I suspect it will all be sanitized to fit the story the producer wants to tell...
Pardon me for not having great hopes for their authenticity...
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Shoestring Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 5:48 pm Post subject: |
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totally disagree. 'we going from peace time to like war time within an hour' hmm like war has a delayed reaction? lets ask the Iraqi's!
This 1 shows nothing new and 2 tries to mask the possibility of anything beyond the official story.
this comment comes at 34:19 out of 42:31
(yes I do feel for the air traffic guys on the day, but all they know is what they saw,which amounts to not a lot) _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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then in conclusion we learn that flight 93 didn't crash yet the shoot down order didn't come to after. Well that clarified that issue then _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Bump. _________________ The Medium is the Massage - Marshall McLuhan. |
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scienceplease 2 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2012 10:04 pm Post subject: |
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"Lost Tapes" - no explanation why the tapes were lost or how they were found...
Live Blog of the Documentary...
Ben Sliney, Head of FAA Air Traffic Control - first day on the job
Mention of "Routine War Game" Vigilant Guardian. (Sim of "incoming Russian Bombers")
Betty Ong - first call recorder but not second call - couldn't record her voice
Transponder switched off. FAA cannot follow plane - not even raw radar returns. (No mention of military radar and/or AWACS).
Very little discussion of second hijack just the second crash!
Still trying to establish chain of command in military!
First indication of third hijack is the transponder signal loss. No radio contact.
Incorrect report of AA11 going towards Washington.
Third hijack. Taped from radio "Get out of here" from cockpit. Taped from radio "We have a bomb on board" from cockpit. No mention of Barbara Olson.
9.35... Military believe there are two aircraft going to Washington.
F16s flew in wrong direction: out east rather than north. Rather pathetic excuse for this.
American 77 hit Pentagon not the "Phantom AA11" - no mention of Norman Minetta's countdown
Ben Sliney makes the decision to clear the skies.
John Farmer "FAA never notified military about U93"
Mark Bingham used CELL PHONE - mother tried to call back (message that was left was played).
WTC South Tower collapses (squibs easily seen!)
Military controller sighs "Yet another plane we didn't stop"
100 minutes chasing phantoms.
ATC comments "10 years later we still have questions. These tapes give us a good idea of what happened that day"
Hmm... yet we don't see to be able to ask the questions or get responses... |
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