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 Posted: Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:06 pm Post subject: Dec2012: Royal nurse Jacintha Saldanha suicided 4 prank call |
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Suicide is the first conclusion? Why!?
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/12/07/nurse-who-transferred-kate-middl eton-prank-call-found-dead-in-possible-suicide/
Nurse who transferred Kate Middleton prank call found dead in possible suicide
| Quote: | A nurse who was tricked by a pair of Australian radio DJs into putting a call through to staff attending to Kate Middleton was found dead on Friday, The Daily Mail reported.
The body of Jacintha Saldanha, a nurse at King Edward VII Hospital, was found Friday morning near her workplace. The cause of death is still uncertain, but suicide is suspected. The Duke and Dutchess of Cambridge said in a statement to reporters that they are “deeply saddened” by the news.
Hospital management told The Daily Mail that Saldanha was not being punished for putting the call through. Sydney-based radio DJs Mel Greig and Michael Christian dialed the hospital on Wednesday pretending to be the queen and Prince Charles inquiring about Middleton’s health.
“This is tragic news, and the thoughts of all at the Royal College of Nursing go to the family of Jacintha Saldanha,” Royal College of Nursing CEO Dr. Peter Carter reportedly said. “It is deeply saddening that a simple human error due to a cruel hoax could lead to the death of a dedicated and caring member of the nursing profession.”
Middleton was admitted to the hospital earlier this week suffering from acute morning sickness. The admission gave the world an abrupt confirmation that the British royal is pregnant, possibly with twins. |
More on the scam described here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244608/Jacintha-Saldanha-Our- beloved-Jacintha-Familys-grief-suicide-mother-nurse-transferred-Austra lian-DJs-hoax-Kate-hospital-call.html |
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| The djs who phoned the hospital pretending to be the "Royals" were doing the public a service in parodying the disgusting media who collectively push the incessant drivel about these non stories concerning the "royals". The same media who pursued Princess Diana relentlessly, profiting from gossip that morons lap up. Whatever the reason for the tragic death of the nurse it was not because of the actions of the two radio broadcasters. It may have been because of the hospital management or the media pushing her over the edge but it was not because two djs parodied the fawning sycophantic mass media who lie relentlessly about issues like 9/11 and feed pap to the public about non-stories like a young lass being pregnant. There is nothing special about her among the millions of other pregnant young women around the world. Pointing this out to the hoi polloi using satire is something that requires doing a lot more. Give them a medal I say, and have an enquiry to determine just what REALLY made the nurse take her own life. |
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Dont know about doing a public service i just think the djs were immature people who wanted a bit of limelight by trying to take the juice at someone elses expense.
Can understand the poor nurses reaction if she was already working on the edge (as a lot of people are) only to get a bollocking from her bossess that would easily push her over. Witnessing it with teachers. A teacher in my wifes school was working on the edge and wanted to drive her car into the back of a lorry on the way to work one morning--that woke her up to realise she needed some help.
As you say it needs an enquiry but even then i am not sure the djs will be chuffed with themselves.
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| Posted: Sat Dec 08, 2012 7:08 pm Post subject: Royal nurse 'commits suicide' after prank call |
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Nobody, but nobody, is giving any reliable evidence about how King Edward VII managers treated Jacintha Saldanha after the prank call became known.
Lord Glenarthur is chairman of the hospital: Eton, military, Thatcherite, Tory hereditary peer.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Arthur,_4th_Baron_Glenarthur
What did he really say to Jacintha?
How do we know he didn't sack her?
Dead nurses tell no tales.
Hmmmmm......
Prince William and his pregnant wife Kate told how they are 'deeply saddened' by the tragedy. A Palace spokesman said the couple had not made a complaint about the prank call.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2244999/Tributes-nurse-Jacinth a-Saldanha-committed-suicide-transferring-prank-Australian-DJs.html
What about hospital managers then?
| Quote: | Here is the letter written by the chairman of King Edward VII's Hospital, Lord Glenarthur, to Max Moore-Wilton, chairman of 2day FM's parent company Southern Cross Austereo.
"I am writing to protest in the strongest possible terms about the hoax call made from your radio station, 2Day FM, to this hospital last Tuesday.
"King Edward VII's Hospital cares for sick people, and it was extremely foolish of your presenters even to consider trying to lie their way through to one of our patients, let alone actually make the call.
"Then to discover that, not only had this happened, but that the call had been pre-recorded and the decision to transmit approved by your station's management, was truly appalling.
"The immediate consequence of these premeditated and ill-considered actions was the humiliation of two dedicated and caring nurses who were simply doing their job tending to their patients.
"The longer term consequence has been reported around the world and is, frankly, tragic beyond words.
"I appreciate that you cannot undo the damage which has been done but I would urge you to take steps to ensure that such an incident could never be repeated."
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/hospitals-letter-to-prank-call-r adio-station-8395645.html
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I still think this should be called "Kate-Gate"!
And this story still doesn't make any sense... suicide due to storm over the prank call. Yet still no information on how Jacintha died! She sounds like she had a lot to live for in this Guardian article...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/09/jacintha-saldanha-hoax-cal l-india
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Jacintha Saldanha's family says she told them nothing about hoax call
Despite nurse's husband calling his mother in India every day, his relatives there had no idea of the strain caused by the prank
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"We spoke to Benedict (her husband) again this morning, and he said he hasn't been allowed to see her body yet because of legal formalities and she'll not be handed over before Monday. We want to bring her dead body to India to perform her last rites."
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You can't see your wife's dead body because of "legal formalities"? Can someone please inform me what these might be? |
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So there is no evidence this nurse is the person who put the call through
No evidence except circumstantial that she committed suicide
This is looking more suspicious by the day
Royals hate Auzzie republicans
Body STILL not released to family!!!!
And she wasn't the type to kill herself
Want to muzzle such prank calls in the future
Win propaganda battle & paint royals as victims in Australia
Dead nurses tell no tales
I urge her family to get an immediate independent post mortem, if they can get the body back!
We spoke to Benedict again this morning, and he said he hasn’t been allowed to see her body yet because of legal formalities and she’ll not be handed over before Monday. We want to bring her dead body to India to perform her last rites.” Jacintha’s sister-in-law Irene D’Souza, of Bangalore, said: “It is hard to believe Jacintha could commit suicide. She wasn’t the type of woman to do it.”
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-pregnant-prank-cal l-1482704
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When this story first broke (the "suicide" rather than the prank call) I detected something sinister going on. Either something ritualistic or a way of dominating the news with a story that will run until Christmas or maybe both.
Maybe the Jimmy Savile story is getting too close to some people and they want to shut it down now a few token old entertainers have been fingered. |
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No note to husband, kids and family?
Injuries to wrist?
Meanwhile... the family suspects foul play and want an independent enquiry.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/dec/13/jacintha-saldanha-suicide- notes
| Quote: | One of three apparent suicide notes left by the nurse at the centre of the royal hoax phone call criticised staff at the King Edward VII hospital where she worked, the Guardian has learned.
Jacintha Saldanha, 46, was found hanged in her apartment in the nurses' quarter of the hospital in Marylebone, central London, by a colleague and a security officer, an inquest into her death heard on Thursday. Three notes were found, two at the scene and one in the nurse's belongings.
She was found dead three days after two DJs rang the hospital from Australia posing as the Queen and Prince Charles in a prank call which Saldanha answered and put through to another nurse on the ward where the Duchess of Cambridge was being treated for morning sickness.
The dead woman's family has been given typed copies of the three handwritten notes by the police and has read the contents, the Guardian has been told.
One note deals with the hoax call by the DJs from 2Day FM, another details her requests for her funeral, and the third addresses her employers, the hospital, and contains criticism of staff there, the Guardian understands from two separate sources.
The Westminster coroner, Dr Fiona Wilcox, was told at the formal opening of the inquest that she had been found hanging in her apartment and there were also injuries to her wrists.
The hearing was told that paramedics who attended the scene in Weymouth Street made several attempts to revive her.
Scotland Yard is investigating a number of emails which the inquest heard were relevant to the nurse's death, as well as telephone calls made to and from her phone in the days before her death.
The Labour MP Keith Vaz, who is acting as a spokesman for Saldanha's husband and two children, published a letter from him to John Lofthouse, chief executive of the King Edward Vll hospital, calling for the "full facts" of what happened to be given to the family.
Earlier this week the nurse's family met Lofthouse and handed over a list of questions they want answered. Vaz said in his letter to Lofthouse: "I have dealt with similar cases in the past and I would agree with the prime minister that the family need to get the full facts, from the time she took the call from 2Day FM to the time she was found in her accommodation.
"The family gave you a list of questions that they wish the hospital to answer so that they can have the full facts of the case. I know they would appreciate answers to their questions in writing as soon as possible. They may also have additional questions."
Detective Chief Inspector James Harman said at the inquest that the Metropolitan police would be contacting officers in New South Wales as part of its inquiry. He said: "On Friday 7 December Jacintha Saldanha was found by colleagues and a member of security staff. At this time there are no suspicious circumstances apparent to me in relation to this death.
"A number of notes were recovered. Two notes were at the scene and a further note was found in the deceased's belongings. Three notes in total."
Saldanha, a mother of two, was identified by her husband, an accountant, the inquest heard.
Harman told the hearing: "There are a number of emails that are of relevance in helping us establish what may have led to this death and we are also looking at the deceased's telephone contacts. Detectives spoke to a number of witnesses, family, friends and colleagues in order to establish anything that led or may have contributed to this tragic death."
Saldanha was found three days after the DJs made the prank call. As the nurse on duty, she took the call and put it through to a colleague on the ward where the Duchess of Cambridge was being treated for morning sickness, who gave out information about her condition.
Harman told the coroner: "You will be aware of the wider circumstances of this case. And I expect in the very near future we shall be in contact with colleagues in New South Wales to establish the best means of putting the evidence before you."
The coroner's officer Lynda Martindill told the hearing that Saldanha, born in India, was a registered nurse and night nurse. Toxicology and histology test results were pending.
Adjourning the inquest until 26 March, Wilcox spoke directly to Saldanha's colleagues who attended the hearing. She said: "I wish to pass on my sympathy to you and her family and all those touched by this terribly tragic death"."
A spokeswoman for the hospital said no one in senior management knew what the contents of the notes left by Saldanha were. She said the hospital management "were very clear that there were no disciplinary issues in this matter".
Both the nurses involved had been offered "full support" and "it was made clear they were victims of a cruel journalistic trick", she said.
The hospital has offered bereavement counselling for the family in Bristol, which they have decided to take up, according to Vaz.
The family did not attend the hearing. Speaking outside the inquest Vaz said Saldanha's relatives were "grieving in their homes … They are comforting each other and the community is comforting them".
He said he had passed on the coroner's comments. The family were grateful to the coroner's office and Metropolitan police, he added.
A memorial service will be held in Bristol. A mass will be held in the chapel at Westminster Cathedral on Saturday. |
http://zeenews.india.com/news/nation/uk-family-suspects-foul-play-in-i ndian-nurse-s-death_816179.html
| Quote: | UK: Family suspects 'foul play' in Indian nurse's death
Last Updated: Wednesday, December 12, 2012, 00:24
Bangalore: British authorities will conduct a postmortem and an inquest into the mysterious death of Indian nurse Jacintha Saldhana in London, but her family in Karnataka suspects "foul play" and wants an independent inquiry into the tragic episode.
"Jacintha's grieving family is anxiously waiting for the postmortem report and the outcome of the inquest by the Scotland Yard, because they suspect foul play in her tragic death as she was a strong woman and would not have resorted to such an act (suicide)," her family's close friend Ivan D'Souza told a news agewncy Tuesday from Mangalore, about 350 km from Bangalore.
In the absence of details or more information on the incident from Jacintha's husband Benedict Barboza from London, members of both the families have been avoiding media as they are in a state of mourning.
"They are too shocked to say anything to the media and are more worried on how Benedict and his two kids are coping with the tragedy in Bristol, where they reside. "Am told Benedict was allowed to see Jacintha's body Monday at the King Edward VII Hospital in central London," said D'Souza, general secretary of the opposition Congress in the state and a neighbour of Jacintha's family in Mangalore.
Barboza's family, however, lives at Shirva, about 60 km from Mangalore and 400 km from Bangalore.
D'Souza met Barboza's family members at Shirva along with former party MP Vinay Kumar Sorake to condole Jacintha's death and enquire about their welfare.
According to Jacintha's brother Naveen Saldhana, the family is waiting for the arrival of the body in Mangalore, with Benedict and his two children Junal, 16, and Lisha, 14, for the last rites that will be performed at Shirva as per the Catholic tradition.
"The family is expecting the British authorities to hand over Jacintha's body to Benedict either Tuesday or Wednesday so that he could fly to Mangalore via Mumbai on the same day or Thursday for the last rites Friday.
"It depends on how long the postmortem and inquest would take and when Benedict would get the flight to Mumbai and a connecting flight to Mangalore," D'Souza noted.
The family members are also mulling over seeking a second postmortem in India if they and Benedict are not satisfied with the inquest outcome in London.
"As Indian laws are applicable even in Britain, the family members are thinking of asking for a second postmortem under section 154 of the Indian Code of Criminal Procedure, 1973 if they are not convinced about the exact cause of Jacintha's death, being investigated by the Scotland Yard," D'Souza asserted.
Saldhana was found unconscious Dec 7 in the quarters of the hospital in central London where she was working as a senior nurse, and was pronounced dead when wheeled into the hospital in an ambulance.
"I have known and seen Jacintha when ever she visited Mangalore over the years as her family members, including mother, a sister and a brother reside next door. She was a pleasant lady and warm with friends and relatives," D'Souza recalled.
Jacintha, 46, who graduated from Father Muller College of Nursing in Mangalore in the mid-1980s, first worked at Muscat (Oman) for a few years and went to London after marriage 15 years ago to live with Barboza, an accountant in the British National Health Service at Bristol, 190 km from London.
"We didn't even know that Jacintha got unwittingly involved in the hoax call though we read something about it in newspapers last week that there was a prank call to the hospital from a radio station in Australia, whose jockeys tried to know about the princess's ( Kate Middleton) health by imitating the voice of the queen (Elizabeth) and prince (Charles)," Jacintha's nephew said but declined to be named. |
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According to the Mirror, "the truth starts to come out"
| Quote: | Nurse Jacintha Saldanha wrote three emotional notes revealing the anguish that led to her suicide after she was duped by two Aussie DJs into believing they were royalty.
In one, the distraught mum-of-two outlines how she struggled to come to terms with the prank call by Mel Greig and Michael Christian to the hospital where pregnant Duchess Kate was being treated for severe morning sickness.
But in another she criticises senior colleagues at the King Edward VII hospital over her treatment after the pair had pretended to be the Queen and Prince Charles asking about the duchess’s condition. That note is said to have left her family furious. |
There seem to me to be two questions we (or the media, ha) should be asking about the hospital. These are first, what training did she receive on dealing with calls about 'celebrities'. If she had been properly trained, perhaps this whole we worship the royals sh*te and her death would never have happened. Second, what was the hospitals response to her and how did they deal with it. IMO, the hospital must bear at least as much responsibility as the DJ's for the death, if not more. The DJ's have been vilified, but the the hospital ... ?
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-prank-call-royal-1 488880
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| BBC News today (Monday, 17th Dec) reporting that in India where Jacintha is being buried, "there are many unanswered questions" and "how could this have happened". Suitably ambiguous from the BBC, but arguably indicating that suicide has not been proven despite the notes and mode of death. |
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16th December 2013 "Conspiracy Show" Podcast (available on iTunes) claims that Jacintha Saldanha was suicided according to "insider sources".
- Jacintha had strong family ties and not in any despondent mood
- She had marks on her wrists indicating she was restrained
- She was hanged apparently with a scarf - her feet nearly touching the floor - an unusual and ineffective suicide method
- apparently she disappeared immediately after the prank call.
Jacintha knew too much and Kate's babe "was born by a surrogate".
http://www.theconspiracyshow.com/
An alternative theory is that Kate may had twins. http://www.euronews.com/2012/12/03/kate-and-william-morning-sickness-c ould-mean-twins/ |
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Looks like a wet job by the Crown Prosecution Service, royal 'nutting squad'
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