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Mark Gobell
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Thanks Me.
Another step along the way and Greening debunked to boot, Excellent.
I had to chuckle at this masterpiece from Kevin Ryan, in his article:
"What is 9/11 Truth? – The First Steps" - a must read for all of us.
To begin with, everyone knows that no tall steel framed buildings have ever collapsed from fire, yet we’re told that the first three instances of this occurred all on the same day.
Similarly, there is no precedent in which a building exhibiting all the characteristics of controlled demolition was not a demolition, and again we have three.
An object lesson for us all in diplomatically understating the completely obvious.
If it looks like a duck . . .
Another MUST READ at http://www.journalof911studies.com/
"Intersecting Facts and Theories on 9/11" by Joseph P Firmage
A correlation of 42 facts of significance are listed, intersecting three possible theories about the nature of 9/11.
The three alternative theories considered are:
(1) the official conspiracy theory in which 19 Islamic radicals caught the U.S. off guard,
(2) elements within the Bush administration knew of the impending attacks and allowed them to happen,
(3) such officials architected the attacks and caused them to happen.
Based upon the details behind the facts, Firmage assigns to each fact a degree of compatibility with each theory.
– sensible,
– plausible,
– suspicious
What Firmage presents to the world is an easy to read, concise summary of the current position that weighs each of the 42 listed facts against each of the three theories: OCT, LIHOP, MIHOP
Superb stuff.
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No problem. I'll be honest, haven't had a chance to read them yet.
Here's more.
9/11 truthers are getting a lot of mainstream coverage in the US now.
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David Ray Griffin - Scarborough Country - TONIGHT
Scarborough Country
9pm Eastern - MSNBC
Not sure when DRG's segment starts exactly. Set the TiVO.
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[I'll post a clip of this after it airs 'if I can find it' for everyone here that can't watch it live]
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[This show should appear in the archives section of the page below in streaming format soon]
http://www.gunsandbutter.net/
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Dr. David Ray Griffin from a speech delivered on October 12, 2005 in Montpelier, Vermont - Flights of Fancy: Flights 11, 175, 77 and 93 - in which he examines each flight in depth, to determine whether or not the official explanation of the failure to intercept, as claimed in the 911 Commission Report, is credible. In each case, Griffin provides multiple examples to demonstrate that the official explanation is not credible. This presentation is is a detailed summary of the second half of his acclaimed book, "The 911 Commission Report: Omissions and Distortions", a critique of the Kean-Zelikow Report.
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Dylan Avery on NPR
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| Quote: | | FOX News watchdog site Newshounds.us, (Their motto: "We watch FOX so you don't have to."), has posted two pieces critical of the way that FOX has chosen to frame 9/11 skepticism. The first is about Fetzer's appearance on "Heartland" (why don't they just call it "Homeland" and get it over with); |
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New Presbyterian Church says 9/11 inside job
http://story.malaysiasun.com/p.x/ct/9/cid/b8de8e630faf3631/id/7cca827f 00576d2a/
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Malaysia Sun
Tuesday 8th August, 2006
The Presbyterian Church (U.S.A.)'s publishing arm has released a book that says President Bush organized New York's Sept. 11 attacks.
The decision by the 160-year-old Westminster John Knox Press, the trade and academic publishing imprint of the Presbyterian Publishing Corp., to attribute the attacks on the World Trade Center brings into the U.S. religious mainstream a conspiracy theory long held by the world's jihadists.
In 'Christian Faith and the Truth behind 9/11: A Call to Reflection and Action,' author David Ray Griffin calls the United States the world's 'chief embodiment of demonic power, says he initially scoffed at 9/11 conspiracy theories.
But after investigating he concluded that the Twin Towers were brought down by controlled demolition, military personnel were given stand-down orders not to intercept hijacked flights and the 9/11 Commission, ostensibly created to uncover the truth behind the events of 9/11, 'simply ignored evidence' that the administration was involved in the attacks.
Griffin further asserts that such events such as that of 9/11 are part of a long history of 'false-flag attacks,' attacks orchestrated by governments against their own people to garner popular support for military action.
Griffin is a professor at California's Claremont School of Theology and Claremont Graduate University, and a codirector of the Center for Process Studies.
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Wokeman
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| That is a truly amazing story. John Knox for me conjures up Scottish religious fire and brimstone. That's a major step forward. |
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Tucker Carlson Interviews Dr. David Ray Griffin
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Hi "Me".
Thanks for the link to Webster Tarpley show.
I have just finished listening to it and I urge other 911 truth members to do the same.
What comes to mind is "Where do we go from here?"
Webster suggests "pounding out the 911 lie" on the next 911 anniversary.
Getting 911 truth candidates to stand for election.
Attending political meetings and advising canditates that they lose our vote unless they address this issue.
Getting the message over that we can only avert WW3 by getting 911 truth out there and addressed properly.
We all know that the twin towers and WTC7 were brought down by controlled demolition, the evidence is crystal clear. What we need to do now is expose the "who's" of 911 and especially any connection from this country.
I expect David Shayler would be up on that.
Peace,
Sonic
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