Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 5:51 pm Post subject: Woolwich soldier Lee Rigby killed by armed terror suspects
Soldier hacked to death in Woolwich by 2 top terror suspects
Terror my eye this needs to be downgraded to knife crime/murder by hatred!!
http://bigstory.ap.org/article/police-1-dead-2-injured-attack-london UK official: London attack could be terror-related
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— May. 22 1:31 PM EDT
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A tent is erected near the scene of an attack in Woolwich southeast London Wednesday, May, 22, 2013. British officials said one person has died and at least two people have been wounded in an attack in southeast London. Scotland Yard said officers responded to reports of an assault Wednesday afternoon in the London neighbourhood of Woolwich. London Ambulance service said one man was found dead at the scene and two other men were taken to the hospital, with one in serious condition. (AP Photo/Alastair Grant)
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Artillery Place road is closed in Woolwich southeast London near the scene where British officials said one person has died and at least two people have been wounded in an attack on Wednesday May 22, 2013. (AP Photo/Nick Ansell/PA) UNITED KINGDOM OUT
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A tent is erected near the scene of an attack in Woolwich southeast London Wednesday, May, 22, 2013. British officials said one person has died and at least two people have been wounded in an attack in southeast London. Scotland Yard said officers responded to reports of an assault Wednesday afternoon in the London neighbourhood of Woolwich. London Ambulance service said one man was found dead at the scene and two other men were taken to the hospital, with one in serious condition. (AP Photo/Alastair Grant)
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Police close the road on Artillery Place, Woolwich southeast London near the scene where British officials said one person has died and at least two people have been wounded in an attack on Wednesday May 22, 2013. (AP Photo/Nick Ansell/PA) UNITED KINGDOM OUT
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LONDON (AP) — Two men attacked another man near a London military barracks Wednesday, in what British authorities were investigating as a possible terror act. One man is dead and two others were injured.
While details were scant, Prime Minister David Cameron called the killing "truly shocking" and said he had asked Home Secretary Theresa May to call an urgent meeting of the government's emergency committee.
A British government official who spoke only on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak about the investigation said the details that had emerged were indicative of a "terrorist-motivated attack."
May said she had been briefed by Britain's domestic security service, MI5, and by police on what she called a "sickening and barbaric" attack.
Britain's Ministry of Defense said it was urgently investigating reports that a serving soldier was involved in the incident.
Police said armed officers responded to reports of the assault Wednesday afternoon just a few blocks from a military training barracks in southeast London.
Commander Simon Letchford said reports indicated that one man was being assaulted by two other men, and that a number of weapons — including possibly a firearm — were used in the attack.
He confirmed that one man was found dead at the scene and that two men were shot by police and taken to separate London hospitals. One of them is in serious condition, according to London Ambulance Service.
Live television images of the scene showed a trail of blood staining a pavement, cordoned off streets and crime scene investigators marking the scene.
David Dixon, head teacher of a nearby primary school, said police told him there was a serious incident. He said he saw body lying in the road outside.
He told the BBC that he then made sure children were inside and put the school into lockdown mode. He said he then heard shots fired.
The Independent Police Complaints Commission, which is called in when officers are involved in shootings, confirmed that it is investigating the incident, which took place near the Royal Artillery Barracks.
The barracks — which house a number of the King's Troop Royal Horse Artillery and independent companies of the Grenadier and Coldstream Guards — were the site of shooting events during the 2012 London Olympics. _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
“I apologize that women had to witness that, but in our lands our women have to see the same thing ... You people will never be safe. Remove your Government, they don’t care about you,” said an alleged Islamist terrorist after beheading a London soldier in an horrific attack caught on video
Here's two accounts from LBC today, one is 'James' that you mentioned above *** and who I heard live this afternoon from the scene........ http://www.lbc.co.uk/listen-woolwich-eyewitness-describes-attack-72446 _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
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“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:20 pm Post subject:
'Fools step in....'
In the Evening Standard today, I read that an Irishman had been arrested for the 'Royal Parks' bombings, a crime for which someone spent 25 years in jail, only to be released with an apology.
Two people, one a black man, have been shot, and the black man is seen saying no one is safe till you get rid of your government (or words to that effect); he apologises for women having to see the brutal murder, but says his people (or words to that effect) are faced with this all the time (which is likely true, with the US & NATO wageing illegal wars of aggression, and occupationns, loosing 'Drone Attacks' on innocent people around the world, in many countries.
Would we castigate a Brit, perhaps even born in Germany, bumping off a Luftwaffe pilot or SS trooper during WWII, knowing the Luftwaffe was raining down bombs on London? And if he didn't have a gun, he used a knife or machete?
Did these two operate under their own steam, or where they 'primed' by as yet unidentified people, to commit this murder on this day?
If we know anything on this Forum, it is that the vast majority of 'Terrorist Attacks' are in reality 'False Flag' ops, or 'Incitements', where some 'amenable' 'Patsies' are set up, either to carry out an attack, or to take the blame.
That's my take to date. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 8:39 pm Post subject: Woolwich? Believable?
Two guys of African descent apparently kill a soldier on behalf of Arabs under Western occupation. They seem to care more than the Arabs few of whom seem interested in coming to Britain to get revenge. How many terror incidents in the UK have been caused by Libyans, or Syrians? How mant terror attacks have been carried out in the UK by a Muslim who has been directly affected by the Western military?
ANd why hang around waiting for the police to shoot them?
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 9:14 pm Post subject:
Another point: why is security enhanced at military bases only in London?
Do they think 'Terrorists' don't know about the SAS base in Hertfordshire, or the myriad USAF bases around the UK?
Shroeburyness? Wales?
A carefully planned 'car bombing' (not one 'fitted up' by MI5 or Special Branch) could wreak havoc in inumerable UK locations, and 'suicide bombings' would be equally devastating.
How come we haven't been plagued by them?
I suggest, because it would not serve the NWO/'Security Services' agenda.
Are Muslims so inferior in intelligence vis-a-vis Irishmen (North or South) that they can't replicate some of the 'IRA's' 'Spectactulars'?
Are they underfunded? Don't they have access to explosives? Are they less committed to the 'Cause'? _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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I agree, after just seeing an interview with a wutiness. They never tried to get away. Then the police never said anything, just hopped out of the car a shot them dead. Somethings a miss.
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Posted: Wed May 22, 2013 11:08 pm Post subject:
Yes, not trying to get away, and walking over to a bus and asking for people to photograph them, something very fishy.
Perhaps they were under some kind of 'Mind Control', playing out their 'programme'.
I don't think it was a coincidence, Irish 'bomber' arrested earlier today.:
'Man charged over 1982 IRA parade bombing in London park':
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/22/us-britain-bombings-ira-idUS BRE94L0OW20130522
At the end of the day, if it was just a pair of 'Jihadists', our skepticism is warrented by the vast majority of these sort of events being 'False Flags'.
My prayers go out to the victims family and friends, and also to all the victims of the British Armed Forces in Afghanistan, Iraq & Libya. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Perhaps the murdered soldier himself and his faith/views were somehow the target of this attack? _________________ --
'Suppression of truth, human spirit and the holy chord of justice never works long-term. Something the suppressors never get.' David Southwell
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Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
Are armed police & soldiers instructed to 'shoot first & ask questions later' with regards to terrorist suspects in case they trick authorities then have small secondary suicide devices on them?
I suppose that's better than 'shoot to kill' :-S _________________ --
'Suppression of truth, human spirit and the holy chord of justice never works long-term. Something the suppressors never get.' David Southwell
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Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
By CAHAL MILMO
Thursday 23 May 2013 One of the two men involved in the Woolwich terror attack was known to a banned Islamist organisation and went by the name of Mujahid, The Independent has learned. Anjem Choudary, the former leader of the group, Al Muhajiroun, confirmed that he had known the man who was seen on video in the immediate aftermath of yesterday's horrific killing waving a cleaver with bloodied hands and making political statements. Details began to emerge as Prime Minister David Cameron chaired a meeting of the Government emergency committee Cobra at 10 Downing Street. Mr Choudary said Mujahid, who he said had converted to Islam in 2003 and was a British-born Nigerian, had stopped attending meetings of Al Muhajiroun and its successor organisations two years ago. The former solicitor said he had also known "Mujahid" as Michael. Sources today named one of the suspects as 28-year-old Michael Adebolajo. He told The Independent: “I knew him as Mujahid. He attended our meetings and my lectures. I wouldn’t describe him as a member [of Al Muhajiroun]. There were lots of people who came to our activities who weren’t necessarily members. “He was a pleasant, quiet guy. He reverted to Islam in about 2003. He was just a completely normal guy. He was interested in Islam, in memorising the Koran. He disappeared about two years ago. I don’t know what influences he has been under since then.” Founded in 1983 by Islamist Omar Bakri Muhammad, Al Muhajiroun became notorious for attempting to justify the 9/11 attacks and fomenting Islamist rhetoric in Britain. Mr Choudary, who has long been a controversial figures in Britain’s Islamist circles, has been an outspoken critic of British military involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan. But he insisted that he had never preached that attacks on British troops or security personnel in Britain were justified. Mr Choudary said: “My position is clear. There is a covenant which says that in return for Muslims being allowed to live peacefully and practice their faith in Britain, then it is forbidden to attack the British authorities, soldiers, in the UK. “When people go abroad then the inhabitants of those countries have a right to defend themselves. The biggest aggravating factor we have today is British foreign policy.” He denied that Mujahid could have been radicalised by his teachings, adding that more extremist material, including the sermons of Yemen-based cleric Anwar Al Awlaki and the Al Qaeda-linked magazine Inspire,have been easily available via the internet. He said: “If you are saying that you are radicalised by saying that British foreign policy is wrong then there are whole load of other organisations and anti-war groups who have said the same. “Mujahid left us two years ago. There is plenty of material out there that does not observe the covenant we do that there can be no attacks in Europe. There is Al Awlaki and Inspire. I do not know what sort of material Mujahid could have seen.” Police said a property in Lincolnshire has been searched in connection with the murder. The attack yesterday was greeted with anger, outrage and condemnation. Sources told The Independent yesterday that the dead man was a member of the Royal Regiment of Fusiliers, which is currently based overseas. The soldier, who has not yet been named, was killed by two suspected Islamists who attempted to behead and disembowel him as he left a barracks. It is the first deadly attack since the 2005 London bombings. One of the suspected killers, who addressed an onlooker who had a camera, said the pair had carried out the attack "because David Cameron, [the] British government sent troops in Arabic country". Video footage of him speaking to camera was published by ITV News yesterday evening. In response to the attack security at the barracks has been increased and according to Sky News members of the British armed forces have been warned not to wear their uniforms in public until further notice. Former chairman of the Joint Intelligence Committee Baroness Neville-Jones said the security services would today be exploring whether the attack was carried out by a "lone wolf" or by someone with further connections, either at home or abroad. "Clearly, as in this case the perpetrators are still alive they are going to be questioned. There is going to be a great deal of information available," she said on the BBC Radio 4 Today programme. "There is a much bigger problem, potentially. "Isolated attacks of the kind we have just seen, of this kind of attack, I'm inclined to think is possibly more in the nature of a lone wolf, is particularly hard to deal with because there are very few outward signs beforehand of the nature the intelligence services can pick up." _________________ --
'Suppression of truth, human spirit and the holy chord of justice never works long-term. Something the suppressors never get.' David Southwell
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com http://aanirfan.blogspot.com
Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
My mind was on fire last night! I'm going fully with staged event now like 118118 'can you put me thru to ITN network, certainly sir...Hello how can we help? Well we have 2 terrorists hacking up a young man with kitchen implements, better call it a machete for effect better come quick for the scoop...Ok talk to them hold them there we're on our way' lol
Then we have the broadcasting quality camera that looks to have a viewfinder that the guy approaches yet the cameraman does not flinch? wtf is that????? Why would a passer by have such a camera?
Seen more convincing scenarios in The Bill
and for how ever long it took to get there none of the worries onlookers intervened? and disarmed they just stood there maybe thinking hell this guy probably deserves it???
I notice how the bodies (human?) are far enough out of view in all footage to be able to see nothing
it would probably take more than 20 mins to hack a head off with their alleged weapons not enough time to run around and talk to cameramen and women
ITN classic------> Link _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Quote is misleading as it is talking of current not before the events took place imo
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I don't watch MSM, but someone put this link in a comment check it out about 7.20 seconds in regarding residents being asked to stay indoors prior to this incident.
London attack: interview with Ingrid Loyau-Kennett
Witness spoke to the two men who have since been arrested over the attack. She told Conal Urqhart her story
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/may/22/woolwich-first-person-account _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
The right to self defence is a key part of the UN Charter forming the basis for international law
That's for sovereign nations, not, it seems, for minority groups. Perhaps the UN Charter needs updating in this internationalised, globalised planet?
Disco_Destroyer wrote:
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UK jihad murderer: "There are many, many ayah throughout the Koran that says we must fight them as they fight us"
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'Suppression of truth, human spirit and the holy chord of justice never works long-term. Something the suppressors never get.' David Southwell
http://aangirfan.blogspot.com http://aanirfan.blogspot.com
Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
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Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 6:14 pm Post subject:
we have had many horrendous killings , shootings, stabbings etc etc all over the country every year and yet this is the first time our PM comes on to give a statement. why? _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
A US army report says that Al Qaida are 38 times more likely to kill a Muslim than kill a non-Muslim. That is, 38 times.
Secondly, the idea that a Nigerian convert to Islam would become a suicide Jihadist for Afghanistan and IRaq is absurd. There have been no Afghans or Iraqis who have come over to the UK or gone to the US to get revenge for their suffering, but we're supposed to believe that a Nigerian would.
And the idea that the jihadist would hang around for 15 minutes to wait for the police to shoot them is all you need to know about whether or not the whole incident was staged.
Paul Watson from Infowars betrays a racist agenda when he says that 'disasterous multiculturalism' was led to a real terror attack.
And how do you manage to attack your soldier by driving a car up a pavement to get him? Very strange.
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