Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
Posted: Thu May 23, 2013 9:08 pm Post subject:
Interesting website catalogueing UK murders just to put the woolwich murder in perspective.
Already seen people suggesting our soldiers should be allowwed to be armed when in civvies
http://www.citizensreportuk.org/reports/murders-fatal-violence-uk.html _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
By all accounts, this man just slashed a soldier to death, and by some accounts cut off his head. Can you imagine how messy that would be? Yet our “Islamic terrorist” perp somehow managed to carry it off without getting a single speck of blood on his face or clothes.
The hands, meanwhile, looked as if he dipped them in a pot of red ink. The ink must have been dry, because several times during the course of his diatribe, he touches his jacket, but leaves no stain on it.
Question 1: How the hell did the attacker come away with spotless threads?
Now, take a good look at those blades he’s brandishing:
This was reported as a machete attack. Those are not machetes, they are kitchen knives.
If you’re gonna cut off a soldier’s head, much less slash him to death, you had best be carrying bigger blades than that.
Question 2: Where are the machetes?
Now, onto the “victim”:
After his “scary Islamist” rant, he crosses the street to the crime scene. The car crashed into the pole is oozing liquid. Cars tend to do that when they’ve had their noses smashed.
But apparently people who have been hacked up and possibly decapitated don’t bleed anymore.
Question 3: Where did the victim’s blood go?
Now please examine the following sequence of photos and ask yourself if you see anything odd.
“I got down there and rolled around in it, just to make sure it isn’t there…”
I can sure identify with the woman in the gray sweatshirt. If I happened upon a hacked-up and possibly headless corpse, the first thing I would do is get down and lie on my back beside it.
But after I got up, I would be very surprised to find no blood on my sweatshirt.
To repeat, where did all the blood go?
This next shot gives another perpsective of the scene.
I guess the gray oval is to shield our delicate sensibilities from something too shocking to behold — something even worse than all that carnage at the Boston Marathon.
Again, nary a drop of blood to be found.
Down the street, you can see a fence with crouching figures on either side of it: two on the sidewalk, one on the street. They are attending to the attackers who have reportedly just been shot.
Let’s look at it from the other side:
Last time I checked, gunshot wounds produced bloodshed. Perhaps Britain has turned into some sort of alternate universe where people don’t bleed when their bodies get ruptured, or maybe British blood is so rarific that it just sublimates from liquid to gas instantaneously upon exposure to Earth’s atmosphere.
AGAIN, WHERE IS THE BLOOD?
Also, if you watch the video, you’ll notice that the paramedic on the left is not DOING anything. She just holds onto the guy’s wrist. When she leans down, it looks very much as if she’s doing so in order to facilitate the conversation they are having. The two blokes on the right aren’t very active either. I’m no expert on EMS stuff, but it looks fake to me.
And that’s why we have –
“That bloke in the blue shirt could stand right in the middle of everything, but you can’t film here!”
–Constable Nigel Cunningbottom, to the rescue of false flag obfuscation!
Here is the shooting scene from above:
I’m not a forensics expert, so back to asking questions.
Question 4: What are those taped-down squares all about? Are they there to mark where blood fell, and that’s why we can’t see any blood?
What is the dark area on the road where the left-hand paramedic was having a conversation with the guy and doing nothing to save him? Is THAT blood? I doesn’t look like blood to me, but I could be wrong.
I really don’t know. If you do, please leave a comment, and if your answer checks out, I will incorporate it into this piece.
Moving on, here’s an aerial shot of the crime scene:
Hey look! Do you see what I see?
TWO WHOLE SPURTS OF WHAT LOOKS BLOOD! Which abruptly peters out and does not continue to the tent that now houses the gray oval.
Yet Lady Gray Sweatshirt de Necrophilia lay down right next to to the corpse and got up completely unstained. Moreover, the sunshine on that sidewalk in those earlier shots doesn’t reveal those stains.
I can only conclude that some intern from props was sent to apply the fake blood before the helicopter showed up.
Speaking of which:
Aviation is yet another of the many areas where I lack any kind of expertise. But I do know this. I have NEVER seen a helicopter fly low to the ground in a crowded city. Have you? Just askin’.
OK, one last thing, and that is, another tent, another “scene”, that does not match the other two, and I haven’t heard or read of any other incidents that would explain it:
I’ve put this together in short snatches of stolen time, and haven’t read each and every article or breathtaking development. If you know what is supposed to have gone down at that location, please let me know.
http://farganne.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/questions-about-the-woolwich- slasher-incident/
'That this was a barbaric and horrendous act goes without saying, but given the legal, military, cultural and political significance of the term "terrorism", it is vital to ask: is that term really applicable to this act of violence? To begin with, in order for an act of violence to be "terrorism", many argue that it must deliberately target civilians. That's the most common means used by those who try to distinguish the violence engaged in by western nations from that used by the "terrorists": sure, we kill civilians sometimes, but we don't deliberately target them the way the "terrorists" do...'
('I would add that Cameron's & Hague's mates that they want to arm in Syria do this sort of thing on an industrial scale). _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 10:54 am Post subject:
Some fair degree of planning clearly went into this attack.
Obtaining a firearm. Drug gang connections possibly/probably - key fact is where did they get that gun, who handed it to them?
These two boys will have been right at the top dozen or so of the terrorism suspects list. What contact with and intelligence on did Met and/or MI5 have with them over the last year?
They will almost certainly have had several individuals who were close friends of the boys and knew them personally.
Which agents, officers were doing and reporting what exactly?
And why did the PM David Cameron on Thursday morning 'refuse to say' whether or not they were known to MI5.
What a disingenuous toe rag he is.
2 long term banned Al Maj (MI6) boys with their own revolver and ammunition in the most densely concentrated army London suburb, Woolwich watching patterns of what out of uniform soldiers are up to day to day and when they go back and forth to the barracks?
MI5 have MAJORLY screwed up & heads must roll - the right ones - now.
It's quite clear where the blood went - over by the car - and the idea of the two Al Maj boys was to wait until the police arrived and ambush them. In the video it looked like the police fired more shots than were necessary after downing the boys.
Quite a lot of 'bleating' about not showing this stuff on TV but it's quite clear. Crazy conspiracies are fuelled by not showing and censorship. This 'no blood' thing appears deliberately concocted and thankfully quickly squashed.
The interesting question is who concocted it?
And from what country was it done?
Will the Met be pulling those people in for questioning?
Question 3: Where did the victim’s blood go?
Now please examine the following sequence of photos and ask yourself if you see anything odd.
“I got down there and rolled around in it, just to make sure it isn’t there…”
I can sure identify with the woman in the gray sweatshirt. If I happened upon a hacked-up and possibly headless corpse, the first thing I would do is get down and lie on my back beside it.
But after I got up, I would be very surprised to find no blood on my sweatshirt....
http://farganne.wordpress.com/2013/05/23/questions-about-the-woolwich- slasher-incident/
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:09 am Post subject:
Tried to remove this. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:11 am Post subject:
Watch the video Paul
the blood is several feet in front of the car - loads and loads of blood and not radiator fluid at all
And another point John Wilson Street & Artillery Place certainly are Red Routes - red lines not yellow ones
outsider wrote:
@ Tony G:
'It's quite clear where the blood went - over by the car..'
That's what I thought, but that patch of 'liquid' is explained as from the car (radiator ruptured from pole impact).
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 11:19 am Post subject:
Quite right. I had seen a different video from a different angle where the 'blood' was just a dark liquid on ground, same colour as the radiator leakage (but the guy was standing in same position at beginning of clip, so I assumed I'd seen the clip. I then thought I would check the clip, tried to cancel my post, but was too late). _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:19 pm Post subject:
I have just posted this comment on the Infowars link:
'Can you explain the strange behaviour of two black women in the clip below, one of whom walks calmly by at 0.14 into this video (UNSEEN-LONDON TERROR - URGENT MESSAGE TO THE PUBLIC) shielding her face from the camera with her hat and the other (also shown in your video clip), another black woman calmly walking towards the 'killer' (0.41) with a shopping trolley, who is then cut out of video, before guy walks into road.
Would the many onlookers they both pass not have warned these two women?'
Here is the link to the video clip I refer to, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc62gkSN8W0&bpctr=1369397498 (the 'comment' section did not allow me to put the link, so I put the title).
The behaviour of the two black women with their shopping trolleys is absolutely inexplicable if the scenario was genuine.
The host of onlookers, whom they both walk past before heading towards 'cleaver man', would have dissuaded them from their extremely foolhardy intention.
I wonder why Infowars guy did not address this issue?
(By the way, I am not anti-Infowars, I think it does a great job). _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 12:54 pm Post subject:
Fairies? What are you on about? Have you watched the clip I referred to? I doubt it, because it seems unavailable now from the link I gave; though it is still available on the guys site, here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/KillTheOrderHD/videos?query=UNSEEN-
Just happened? The crowd the two women pass are fully aware by then of what has 'supposedly' occured; the women are not running, they just casually stroll along with their trolleys, the first one shielding her face from the camera with her big white hat.
If the link dissapears, many will have seen it before anyway, and will know it makes NO SENSE AT ALL, the way the first black woman casually walks past, and the second one is about to, before edited out.
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edit - It makes perfect sense Paul for people not to realise what was going on.
You have thrown yourself down your own rabbit hole. Now climb out please.
_________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Fri May 24, 2013 1:41 pm Post subject:
The following sounds a lot more like the reaction I would expect from a witness, rather than the casual walking towards 'attackers', or even talking casually to them:
Eyewitness describes moment he witnessed attack in Woolwich:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ks6uFjXMos _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
Body language is key in gaging threat, he showed no signs of malice toward the camera person who is said to have been a bystander.
Blood is visible on the original SUN footage by the sign post.
It maybe likely their had been a previous altercation with the said victim as one of the guys was said to have preached on the street in the Woolwich area (don't know how true that is, but sounds reasonable)
Seems looking at yesterdays C4 news the authorities are now trying to blow this all out of proportion.
MI5 links? Hmm maybe they just want you to think they have tabs on everything? After all most Murders are spur of the moment actions that cannot readily be predicted.
pot on report, can't argue with that one Was the London killing of a British soldier 'terrorism'? www.guardian.co.uk
Glenn Greenwald: What definition of the term includes this horrific act of violence but excludes the acts of the US, the UK and its allies?
The following sounds a lot more like the reaction I would expect from a witness, rather than the casual walking towards 'attackers', or even talking casually to them:
Eyewitness describes moment he witnessed attack in Woolwich:
That is the LBC witness interview posted above somewhere _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Just happened? The crowd the two women pass are fully aware by then of what has 'supposedly' occured; the women are not running, they just casually stroll along with their trolleys, the first one shielding her face from the camera with her big white hat.
If the link dissapears, many will have seen it before anyway, and will know it makes NO SENSE AT ALL, the way the first black woman casually walks past, and the second one is about to, before edited out.
It's part of the 'Human Condition'. Some people just do not want to get involved and some will. It's part and parcel of the times in which we live. _________________ "Soon after the year 2000 has been written, a law will go forth from America whose purpose will be to suppress all individual thinking. This will not be the wording of the law, but it will be the intent" Rudolf Steiner: Gegenwärtiges und Vergangenes in Menschengeiste (The Present and the Past in the Human Spirit)
Woolwich killers LINKS to Anjem Choudary and Al-Muhajiroun.
Now I found this comment on a thread from 2011 which states: -
"As is now well-documented, Choudary’s predecessors in the al-Muhajiroun group had links to British security services – MI5/Special Branch at home, and the foreign secret service (MI6) for black operations in Kosovo. Followers of al-Muhajiroun fought alongside the CIA-sponsored KLA in a covert guerilla war to destablise the Kosovo government. The purpose, it seems, was to gain Algerian support for the trans-Balkan oil pipeline project. We harboured these dangerous radicals under a ‘Covenant of Security’ by which we tolerated their activities so long as they didn’t brainwash our kids into attacking *us*. Apparently their hate-filled tirades were deemed an acceptable price to pay for their strategic usefulness abroad"
Now in the book called "Secret Affairs: Britain's Collusion with Radical Islam By Mark Curtis" it reads: -
Following the 2005 London bombings, John Loftus, a former US justice department prosecutor and US intelligence officer claimed that MI6 worked with the millitant Islamic organisation called Al-Muhajiroun to send jihadists to Kosova.
Al-Muhajiroun was set up by Omar Bakri Mohammed who in 1986 fled to Britain and set up a british branch. By the mid 1990's Bakri was being described as the HEAD OF THE POLITICAL WING OF THE INTERNATIONAL ISLAMIC FRONT founded by OSAMA BIN LADEN.
Loftus told a US television station that Al-Muhajiroun leaders ALL WORKED FOR BRITISH INTELLIGENCE IN KOSOVO and that BRITISH INTELLIGENCE ACTUALLY HIRED SOME AL-QAEDA GUYS to help defend muslim rights in Albania and Kosova. CIA was funding the operation while british intelligence WAS DOING THE HIRING AND RECRUITING"
Now have a listen to this guy - talking about LINKS between 7/7 Al-Muhajiroun and BRITISH INTELLIGENCE.
I have been approached by some unknown character after blabbing to an off duty officer about 7/7. How far does the term asset go and how likely is it these people never know they are being handled?
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Well the LEADER of Al-Muhajiroun IS MI5/MI6 - no doubt. He appeared on channel 4 news after the incident. This whole affair I am convinced is staged - I do not believe he is a "patsy"
Anjem Choudary is on yesterdays C4 news you can see on 4OD
Link _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
The gruesome scene of a decapitated actor with no police or paramedics at the scene and no blood!!
Note the offenders are shot by armed police who are in attendance in the background but the murder scene has not been secured!!
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I am sure many of you have woken up to this amazing Shakespearean play that has unfolded in Woolwich, London where all the actors were so bad they would not even qualify for an interview as an extra in some third rate movie!!
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First we had the overhead helicopter shots taken soon after the incident at the junction of the A205 and the B210 (so called crime scene). The first pictures emerged showing a police tent covering the body of the victim….but wait a minute this tent must have been blown away by the wind to another location…….were the actors involved in this flase flag caught with their trousers down?…….take a look at the original tent location below.
_________________ --
'Suppression of truth, human spirit and the holy chord of justice never works long-term. Something the suppressors never get.' David Southwell
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Martin Van Creveld: Let me quote General Moshe Dayan: "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother."
Martin Van Creveld: I'll quote Henry Kissinger: "In campaigns like this the antiterror forces lose, because they don't win, and the rebels win by not losing."
Abu Nusaybah: 'I believe that certain events that happened to [Adebolajo] recently had an impact in shaping the changes.' Photograph: BBC
A friend of one of the suspected killers of a soldier butchered in a London street was arrested by counter-terrorism officers yesterday after going on television to allege that Michael Adebolajo was tortured in Kenya and harassed by MI5 – who asked him to spy for them.
The allegations came from Abu Nusaybah, who was arrested under terrorism legislation minutes after finishing recording his interview for BBC Newsnight.
The Guardian understands that Nusaybah is connected to extremists formerly in the banned group al-Muhajiroun. Counter-terrorism officers turned up at reception at the BBC's central London headquarters as his interview was being recorded an hour before it was broadcast. The officers waited, then arrested Nusaybah as he left the BBC's headquarters.
In the interview, Abu Nusaybah in part attributed Adebolajo's radicalisation to his alleged ill-treatment in Kenya.
Nusaybah alleged that Adebolajo was arrested while studying in a village in Kenya last year. After refusing to answer questions, Adebolajo was told that he was "not in the UK" and was then, he claimed, sexually assaulted. On his return, "he became more reclined [sic], less talkative. He wasn't his bubbly self," said Nusaybah, who said that the experience further radicalised Adebolajo.
The Guardian has learned that, last year, Adebolajo went to a lawyer to complain of harassment by MI5, who are drawing criticism today for knowing about the 28-year-old but not assessing him to be a bigger terrorist threat.
He was arrested at the scene of the soldier's murder in Woolwich on Wednesday in the first terror-related death on mainland Britain since the 7 July 2005 bombings.
The Guardian also understands from Whitehall sources that they were aware that Adebolajo was detained in Kenya before being deported.
Nusaybah said he had known Adebolajo since they grew up together in Romford, Essex.
Since the attack on the soldier, Lee Rigby, on Wednesday, a total of six people have been arrested. Nusaybah's was the first under counter-terrorism laws; the rest have been detained under regular criminal laws. Nusaybah was arrested on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism under the Terrorism Act 2000.
Asked about the unusual sequence of events leading to the arrest, the Metropolitan police said: "He was not arrested because of his comments on Newsnight."
The police would not say what led to his arrest, which BBC insiders said had left them shocked. Police also said he was not arrested in connection to the murder of Lee Rigby. Nusaybah's home is understood to be one of two addresses in east London being searched by officers after his arrest.
In the interview, Abu Nusaybah described how the two men became friends after meeting in Romford in 2002, before both had converted to Islam. "I used to go there to chill out with friends," he said. "One day we bumped into each other. You didn't see a lot of black guys down there, so we talked and swapped numbers." The two men converted to Islam independently in 2004. "I came into Islam in 2004 and he came in four months later," Nusaybah said.
He also confirmed that Adebolajo frequented meetings of the now-banned al-Muhajiroun group, where he listened to the preachings of extremist clerics. "He attended some of their activities, but he was an independent guy. He would float about," Nusaybah said.
Adebolajo did not want to see sharia law imposed in Britain, but thought it more sensible for someone like him to go and live in a Muslim country, according to the interviewee. "He wanted to be qualified to teach and to do fitness training. He could use that to go abroad and live in a Muslim country."
Abu Nusaybah said that he believed that Adebolajo became radicalised about six months ago. He said he saw profound changes in Adebolajo's character at that time, which he attributed to his experiences in Kenya and to events on his return to Britain. "I believe that certain events that happened to him recently had an impact in shaping the changes. He became more reclined [sic], less talkative. He wasn't his bubbly self," he said.
Adebolajo had told Nusaybah how he had gone to study in a village in Kenya when he and others were rounded up by the Kenyan army. When he was interrogated, he refused to speak. "They told him, 'You are not in the UK now.' They took his private parts and said, 'We will F you.' He told me he was physically assaulted and sexually threatened. If you looked at his face, he was holding back tears," Nusaybah said.
When Adebolajo returned to England, he was interviewed by MI5 officers and, according to Nusaybah, was planning to leave again to live in a Muslim country. "His whole concept was he wanted to live in a Muslim land because at the time he was being harassed by MI5.
"They were knocking and knocking on his door. He pretended not to be there, but then he spoke to the agent. They said, 'We just want to speak to you.' They wanted to ask him if he knew certain people," he said.
"But after him saying that he didn't know these individuals, he said they asked him if he would be interested in working for them. He was explicit in that he refused to work for them but he did confirm he didn't know the individuals."
"His word was, 'They are bugging me,'" said Nusaybah.
In a statement about the arrest, Scotland Yard said: "At around 2130 hours on Friday 24 May, a 31-year-old man was arrested in London by officers from the MPS Counter-Terrorism Command on suspicion of the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism under the Terrorism Act 2000. The man has been taken to a south London police station, where he remains in custody. Search warrants are being executed at two residential addresses in east London."
makes one wonder if my brief interview was MI5 hmmmm _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 7:52 am Post subject:
This chap as done nothing wrong
This is a Gestapo McCarthyite attack on Newsnight by our crooked Security Services whose agent Ken Clarke wants Secret Courts so they don't have to go to jail
.but wait a minute this tent must have been blown away by the wind to another location…….were the actors involved in this flase flag caught with their trousers down?…….take a look at the original tent location below.
Nothing unusual about the tent location at all. The picture above shows the tent at its drop of point, to be taken around the corner where the body was when it was safe to do so. _________________ "Soon after the year 2000 has been written, a law will go forth from America whose purpose will be to suppress all individual thinking. This will not be the wording of the law, but it will be the intent" Rudolf Steiner: Gegenwärtiges und Vergangenes in Menschengeiste (The Present and the Past in the Human Spirit)
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
Posted: Sat May 25, 2013 10:35 am Post subject:
So how did 'Security Services' know of Abu Nusaybah's interview, as it was recorded an hour before it was broadcast? BBC MI5 office tipped them off, obviously; pity they weren't so 'quick on the draw' re Savile ('turn a blind eye; nod, nod; wink, wink; funny handshake).
This is outrageous; I hope the Muslim community gets a protest together quickly, to demonstrate at Scotland Yard or wherever Abu has been taken, and that Human Rights organisations get there skates on.
If Abu Nusaybah had something to hide, he would hardly bring himself to police attention by turning up at the BBC and recording what he did. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
maybe the term 'asset' refers to people they may or may not have control over, but ones in which they can exert pressure externally in a certain direction or use the outcomes of uncontrolled circumstances for personal political gain?
In another note who is Mark Curtis? Where does he glean his information? Is he not part of the 'Ministry Of Information'?
Also Ryan Dawson has just changed his view to LIHOP _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
Birmingham murder may have been racially motivated, say police
Detectives appeal for witnesses after Mohammed Saleem, 75, was stabbed to death as he returned home from local mosque
Press Association
The Guardian, Thursday 2 May 2013 13.41 BST
A 75-year-old man stabbed to death yards from his home may have been targeted in a racially motivated attack, according to police.
Mohammed Saleem, who used a walking stick, was stabbed three times in the back as he returned home from prayers at his local mosque in Small Heath, Birmingham, on Monday night.
The blows were struck with such violence they penetrated to the front of his body.
The father of seven also had no defensive wounds in what has been described as a swift, vicious and cowardly attack by the man leading the murder investigation, Detective Superintendent Mark Payne of West Midlands police.
Officers want to trace a white man, aged 25-32, of medium height and build, spotted on CCTV footage running near the scene of the attack around the time it happened, just before 10.30pm.
Woolwich murder suspect Michael Adebolajo was being "harassed" by MI5 and had been asked to work for the agency, a childhood friend has told Newsnight.
Abu Nusaybah spoke to the BBC's Richard Watson about his friendship with Adeboljo, who is linked with the killing of 25-year-old Drummer Lee Rigby.
Mr Nusaybah said Adeboljo told him that MI5 agents visited his house around six months ago.
"He mentioned that initially they wanted to ask him if he knew certain individuals. After him saying he didn't know these individuals... they asked him whether he'd be interested in working for them," he told the BBC.
The BBC could not obtain any confirmation from Whitehall sources.
Mr Nusaybeh was arrested on BBC premises by Met Police Counter-Terrorism Branch, after the interview, on suspicion of terrorism offences.
_________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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