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Disco_Destroyer Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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How do we know they didn't? Propaganda is designed not to worry any acting forces _________________ 'Come and see the violence inherent in the system.
Help, help, I'm being repressed!'
“The more you tighten your grip, the more Star Systems will slip through your fingers.”
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Boston Terror Update 2-April 25: The Syria Objective is Nearly Accomplished? - See more at: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/04/25/boston-terror-update-2-apri l-25-the-syria-objective-is-nearly-accomplished/#sthash.q20Y3RD0.dpuf
Not good news for Assad: as I was afraid would likely happen, Russia seems to have made a deal with the US.
From above link: '...During my April 22 interview for Boiling Frogs Post EyeOpener Report (See here) I provided three possible US objectives associated with the Boston Terror incident. I emphasized the first possible scenario as the most likely: Removing Russia as the obstacle in invading Syria. I pointed out that to achieve this objective a back-door deal could have been struck with Russia. What sort of a deal? Here is what I hypothesized:
1-Using this home-made incident the United States could temporarily switch its alliance with and the portrayal of factions in Caucasus-USA-created Islamic Terror Cells in Caucasus and Central Asia in the Great Game Scheme against Russia. Overnight, with the designed-terrorist attack, the US made the factions switch from Freedom Fighting Rebels to Hottest Terrorist Cells associated with al-Qaeda.
2-The Russians would stand back on Syria, and remove themselves as the obstacle in US intended invasion of Syria. In return, the United States and EU, would support Russia in a new battle against the factions in Caucasus. Meaning: Russians soon-to-come “house cleaning” domestic battles would not be ostracized by the international community as ‘Human Rights Violations,’ but supported as ‘Russia taking positive steps in counterterrorism efforts to wipe out radical Islamic Terrorists.’
- See more at: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2013/04/25/boston-terror-update-2-apri l-25-the-syria-objective-is-nearly-accomplished/#sthash.q20Y3RD0.dpuf ...'
Londoners don't forget - there is a demo against Western intervention in Syria this Saturday, 15th June at the US Embassy, Grosvenor Square at 13.00hrs. (called by 'Stop the War'). _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:14 pm Post subject: |
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I put this up on the 'FAIR' site; it's 'awaiting moderation':
http://www.fair.org/blog/2013/06/14/syria-and-chemical-weapons-what-do -we-know/comment-page-1/#comment-228517
'Something that seems to be forgotten; ever heard of 'False Flag' ops? You know, doing something bad to your own people (or indeed, anyone at all) in order to claim a 'Casus Belli', a cause for war? Or alternatively, just stating that some target has done something so horrendous that it calls for 'Humanitarian Intervention'?
Well, try this for size; the UK Daily Mail had this article up online, but soon removed it (I wonder who got busy??):
'U.S. 'backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad's regime'
Leaked emails from defense contractor refers to chemical weapons saying 'the idea is approved by Washington'
Obama issued warning to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that use of chemical warfare was 'totally unacceptable'
By LOUISE BOYLE - PUBLISHED: 19:16, 29 January 2013 | UPDATED: 14:04, 30 January 2013
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2270219/U-S-planned-launch-che mical-weapon-attack-Syria-blame-Assad.html
Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad's regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country.
A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme 'approved by Washington' is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.
Barack Obama made it clear to Syrian president Bashar al-Assad last month that the U.S. would not tolerate Syria using chemical weapons against its own people.
According to Infowars.com, the December 25 email was sent from Britam's Business Development Director David Goulding to company founder Philip Doughty.
It reads: 'Phil... We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington.
'We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have.
'They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record.
'Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion?
'Kind regards, David.'
Britam Defence had not yet returned a request for comment to MailOnline.
Read more: U.S. 'planned to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad' | Mail Online '
Luckily, someone took a screen shot of it:
http://www.oplysning.org/uploads/9/1/4/3/9143605/7191843_orig.png
So, Messrs. Obomba, Cameron, Haig et al, NOW what ya got to say for yourselves?
PS, also remember the 'Incubator Babies' of Kuwait; also, the Brits falling over themselves to restart arms sales to Saddam, after Halabja; and Churchill, ordering the use of poison gas on the Kurds, to 'Teach them a lesson'.'
I got the basics from Tony's comment above, as Mail has removed it from their site. Luckily, another site had made a 'screen shot', which I referenced in my comment.
On reflection, I should have referenced this Forum as well; I will if my comment is published and there is a reply. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Posted: Fri Jun 14, 2013 11:33 pm Post subject: |
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Though Churchill's memo re gassing the Kurds has been removed from the files, and is no longer available, and though 'Wickipedia' brushes it off as 'tear gas', Global Research has a copy of the original, before it was 'disappeared':
Winston Churchill's Secret Poison Gas Memo
www.globalresearch.ca 29 July 2004
The URL of this article is: http://globalresearch.ca/articles/CHU407A.html
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Winston Churchill's Secret Poison Gas Memo
[stamp] PRIME MINISTER'S PERSONAL MINUTE
[stamp, pen] Serial No. D. 217/4
[Seal of Prime Minister]
10 Downing Street, Whitehall [gothic script]
GENERAL ISMAY FOR C.O.S. COMMITTEE [underlined]
1. I want you to think very seriously over this question of poison gas. I would not use it unless it could be shown either that (a) it was life or death for us, or (b) that it would shorten the war by a year.
2. It is absurd to consider morality on this topic when everybody used it in the last war without a word of complaint from the moralists or the Church. On the other hand, in the last war bombing of open cities was regarded as forbidden. Now everybody does it as a matter of course. It is simply a question of fashion changing as she does between long and short skirts for women.
3. I want a cold-blooded calculation made as to how it would pay us to use poison gas, by which I mean principally mustard. We will want to gain more ground in Normandy so as not to be cooped up in a small area. We could probably deliver 20 tons to their 1 and for the sake of the 1 they would bring their bomber aircraft into the area against our superiority, thus paying a heavy toll.
4. Why have the Germans not used it? Not certainly out of moral scruples or affection for us. They have not used it because it does not pay them. The greatest temptation ever offered to them was the beaches of Normandy. This they could have drenched with gas greatly to the hindrance of the troops. That they thought about it is certain and that they prepared against our use of gas is also certain. But they only reason they have not used it against us is that they fear the retaliation. What is to their detriment is to our advantage.
5. Although one sees how unpleasant it is to receive poison gas attacks, from which nearly everyone recovers, it is useless to protest that an equal amount of H. E. will not inflict greater casualties and sufferings on troops and civilians. One really must not be bound within silly conventions of the mind whether they be those that ruled in the last war or those in reverse which rule in this.
6. If the bombardment of London became a serious nuisance and great rockets with far-reaching and devastating effect fell on many centres of Government and labour, I should be prepared to do [underline] anything [stop underline] that would hit the enemy in a murderous place. I may certainly have to ask you to support me in using poison gas. We could drench the cities of the Ruhr and many other cities in Germany in such a way that most of the population would be requiring constant medical attention. We could stop all work at the flying bomb starting points. I do not see why we should have the disadvantages of being the gentleman while they have all the advantages of being the cad. There are times when this may be so but not now.
7. I quite agree that it may be several weeks or even months before I shall ask you to drench Germany with poison gas, and if we do it, let us do it one hundred per cent. In the meanwhile, I want the matter studied in cold blood by sensible people and not by that particular set of psalm-singing uniformed defeatists which one runs across now here now there. Pray address yourself to this. It is a big thing and can only be discarded for a big reason. I shall of course have to square Uncle Joe and the President; but you need not bring this into your calculations at the present time. Just try to find out what it is like on its merits.
[signed] Winston Churchill [initials]
6.7.44 [underlined]
Source: photographic copy of original 4 page memo, in Guenther W. Gellermann, "Der Krieg, der nicht stattfand", Bernard & Graefe Verlag, 1986, pp. 249-251
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Winston S. Churchill: departmental minute (Churchill papers: 16/16) 12 May 1919 War Office
I do not understand this squeamishness about the use of gas. We have definitely adopted the position at the Peace Conference of arguing in favour of the retention of gas as a permanent method of warfare. It is sheer affectation to lacerate a man with the poisonous fragment of a bursting shell and to boggle at making his eyes water by means of lachrymatory gas.
I am strongly in favour of using poisoned gas against uncivilised tribes. The moral effect should be so good that the loss of life should be reduced to a minimum. It is not necessary to use only the most deadly gasses: gasses can be used which cause great inconvenience and would spread a lively terror and yet would leave no serious permanent effects on most of those affected.
from Companion Volume 4, Part 1 of the official biography, WINSTON S. CHURCHILL, by Martin Gilbert (London: Heinemann, 1976)
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Henry Gonzalez, US Congressman, referred to this in the House of Representatives on March 24, 1992:
"But there again, where is the moral right? The first one to use gas against Arabs was Winston Churchill, the British, in the early 1920's. They were Iraq Arabs they used them against." http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/congress/1992/h920324g.htm
"Moral right" is of course the reason this piece of history has now been dredged up again - by people who see contradictions in the pious arguments of Messrs. Bush, Blair et al. And this seems only fair. In 1998 Clinton denounced opponents to his planned attack on Iraq for "not remembering the past".
> I remain unconvinced that the UK used chemical weapons > in the middle east in the 1920s.... > but I'm open to correction.
Not easy. And if you'd rather not...
Churchill thought of it as poison gas - and so, apparently did everyone else. The idea of using it was his alone. And he is also is also to have given the authorization to the RAF. He wanted gas to be used in addition to regular bombing: "against recalcitrant Arabs as experiment". According to Simons, gas was not dispensed in bombs.
The intention was to quell a growing rebellion in remote villages. He met with objections but maintained that "we cannot in any circumstances acquiesce in the non-utilisation of any weapons which are available to procure a speedy termination of the disorder which prevails on the frontier".
It seems Churchill wanted to cause "disablement", "discomfort or illness, but not death".
In any case, to Churchill this was not a moral issue. Here is part of a memo, so you can see it through his eyes. He wrote this during WWII, when he contemplated using poison gas, but never did:
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Excerpts below by www.informationwar.org
BACKGROUND: In 1917, following the defeat of the Ottoman Empire, the British occupied Iraq and established a colonial government. The Arab and Kurdish people of Iraq resisted the British occupation, and by 1920 this had developed into a full scale national revolt, which cost the British dearly. As the Iraqi resistance gained strength, the British resorted to increasingly repressive measures, including the use of posion gas.] NB: Because of formatting problems, quotation marks will appear as stars * All quotes in the excerpt are properly footnoted in the original book, with full references to British archives and papers. Excerpt from pages 179-181 of Simons, Geoff. *IRAQ: FROM SUMER TO SUDAN*. London: St. Martins Press, 1994:
Winston Churchill, as colonial secretary, was sensitive to the cost of policing the Empire; and was in consequence keen to exploit the potential of modern technology. This strategy had particular relevance to operations in Iraq. On 19 February, 1920, before the start of the Arab uprising, Churchill (then Secretary for War and Air) wrote to Sir Hugh Trenchard, the pioneer of air warfare. Would it be possible for Trenchard to take control of Iraq? This would entail *the provision of some kind of asphyxiating bombs calculated to cause disablement of some kind but not death...for use in preliminary operations against turbulent tribes.*
Churchill was in no doubt that gas could be profitably employed against the Kurds and Iraqis (as well as against other peoples in the Empire): *I do not understand this sqeamishness about the use of gas. I am strongly in favour of using poison gas against uncivilised tribes.* Henry Wilson shared Churchills enthusiasm for gas as an instrument of colonial control but the British cabinet was reluctant to sanction the use of a weapon that had caused such misery and revulsion in the First World War. Churchill himself was keen to argue that gas, fired from ground-based guns or dropped from aircraft, would cause *only discomfort or illness, but not death* to dissident tribespeople; but his optimistic view of the effects of gas were mistaken. It was likely that the suggested gas would permanently damage eyesight and *kill children and sickly persons, more especially as the people against whom we intend to use it have no medical knowledge with which to supply antidotes.*
Churchill remained unimpressed by such considerations, arguing that the use of gas, a *scientific expedient,* should not be prevented *by the prejudices of those who do not think clearly*. In the event, gas was used against the Iraqi rebels with excellent moral effect* though gas shells were not dropped from aircraft because of practical difficulties [.....]
Today in 1993 there are still Iraqis and Kurds who remember being bombed and machine-gunned by the RAF in the 1920s. A Kurd from the Korak mountains commented, seventy years after the event: *They were bombing here in the Kaniya Khoran...Sometimes they raided three times a day.* Wing Commander Lewis, then of 30 Squadron (RAF), Iraq, recalls how quite often *one would get a signal that a certain Kurdish village would have to be bombed...*, the RAF pilots being ordered to bomb any Kurd who looked hostile. In the same vein, Squadron-Leader Kendal of 30 Squadron recalls that if the tribespeople were doing something they ought not be doing then you shot them.*
Similarly, Wing-Commander Gale, also of 30 Squadron: *If the Kurds hadn't learned by our example to behave themselves in a civilised way then we had to spank their bottoms. This was done by bombs and guns.
Wing-Commander Sir Arthur Harris (later Bomber Harris, head of wartime Bomber Command) was happy to emphasise that *The Arab and Kurd now know what real bombing means in casualties and damage. Within forty-five minutes a full-size village can be practically wiped out and a third of its inhabitants killed or injured.* It was an easy matter to bomb and machine-gun the tribespeople, because they had no means of defence or retalitation. Iraq and Kurdistan were also useful laboratories for new weapons; devices specifically developed by the Air Ministry for use against tribal villages. The ministry drew up a list of possible weapons, some of them the forerunners of napalm and air-to-ground missiles:
Phosphorus bombs, war rockets, metal crowsfeet [to maim livestock] man-killing shrapnel, liquid fire, delay-action bombs. Many of these weapons were first used in Kurdistan.
Excerpt from pages 179-181 of Simons, Geoff. *Iraq: From Sumer to Saddam*.
London: St. Martins Press, 1994.
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George Galloway, to his credit, has brought the subject up in the past:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_rs8sAcFNs _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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TonyGosling Editor
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Posted: Sun Jun 16, 2013 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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VIDEO: FRENCH CONFIRM BRITAIN WANTED WAR WITH SYRIA YEARS AGO.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrzZ3mXd8BI
http://brianhaw.tv/index.php/blog/1799-15062013-video-french-confirm-b ritain-wanted-war-with-syria-years-ago
http://rinf.com/alt-news/latest-news/french-confirm-britain-wanted-war -with-syria-years-ago/42319/
The former French foreign minister confirms the British, along with Israel always wanted war with Syria, all along and he said no.
BRITAIN PREPARED FOR WAR
"Former French Foreign Minister Roland Dumas said that Britain had been preparing gunmen to invade Syria two years before the crisis there flared up in 2011.
During a TV show, Dumas said ''I was in Britain two years ago, and I met British officials, some my friends…they admitted that they were up to something in Syria.''
''They even asked me to join them in my capacity as a foreign minister, but I declined,'' he added.
He indicated that the plan of striking Syria had been prepared in advance long before the 2011 events, adding that the goal was to overthrow the Syrian government that considers Israel an enemy.
The TV show was dedicated to discussing the war in Syria.
French magazine: 'Jihadists' involvement in Syria much bigger than Afghanistan
The French magazine "Le Nouvel Observateur" quoted a senior French official as saying that the participation of French Jihadists in Syria is bigger that their involvement in Afghanistan war.
The French magazine said that the French intelligence verified the identities of 270 French nationals who are fighting in Syria, indicating that their return has become a major concern for the French interior ministry.
The magazine said that the number of European 'Jihadists' fighting in Syria ranges between 1,500 and 2,000, in addition to hundreds of Tunisians." _________________ www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org
www.rethink911.org
www.patriotsquestion911.com
www.actorsandartistsfor911truth.org
www.mediafor911truth.org
www.pilotsfor911truth.org
www.mp911truth.org
www.ae911truth.org
www.rl911truth.org
www.stj911.org
www.v911t.org
www.thisweek.org.uk
www.abolishwar.org.uk
www.elementary.org.uk
www.radio4all.net/index.php/contributor/2149
http://utangente.free.fr/2003/media2003.pdf
"The maintenance of secrets acts like a psychic poison which alienates the possessor from the community" Carl Jung
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 3:44 pm Post subject: |
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Here's another link to same subject:
Dumas, “Top British Officials Confessed to Syria War Plans Two Years before Arab Spring”
http://nsnbc.me/2013/06/16/dumas-top-british-officials-confessed-to-sy ria-war-plans-two-years-before-arab-spring/
'Christof Lehmann (nsnbc),- The former French Foreign Minister Roland Dumas admits, the war on Syria was planned two years before “The Arab Spring”. Dumas states in a TV interview, that “top British officials” confessed that they were preparing a war on Syria and asked “If I wanted to participate”.
The former French Minister of Foreign Affairs appeared in aTV interview with the French TV Channel LPC, saying:
“I am going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me, that they were preparing something in Syria”.
Dumas continued, indicating that the subversion and invasion of the Syrian Arab Republic with the help of “rebels” was primarily a British plan, while he carefully avoided implicating himself and France, saying:
“This was in Britain not in America. Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer Minister of Foreign Affairs, if I would like to participate. Naturally, I refused, I said I am French, that does not interest me”... _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Syria conflict: Rebels 'have new weapons'
Syrian rebels say they have received new weapons that could lead to "changes" in the fighting in the country's civil war.
Speaking ahead of a meeting of the "Friends of Syria" group of nations on Saturday, Louay Meqdad, a spokesman for the Free Syrian Army, declined to give details of the weapons to reporters.
He said they had not come from the US.
The Free Syrian Army says most of its arms are from the black market or are seized from troops.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-23011819 _________________ "Soon after the year 2000 has been written, a law will go forth from America whose purpose will be to suppress all individual thinking. This will not be the wording of the law, but it will be the intent" Rudolf Steiner: Gegenwärtiges und Vergangenes in Menschengeiste (The Present and the Past in the Human Spirit) |
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Posted: Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:03 pm Post subject: |
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I wonder if Syria has brought up the issue in the UN of neighbouring States allowing/facilitating armed men crossing their borders into Syria?
If Syria insisted on 'hot pursuit', it would of course bring all NATO hell down on their heads, but the US, Britain etc blatantly push their local 'allies' to allow these transfers (just as they did with the 'Contra' thugs terrorism against Nicaragua).
The main reason the Afghans were able to push the Russians to withdraw was the pouring of SAM's and other weapons, and personnel, in from Pakistan (the Russians may eventually have been wearied with the incredibly brave Afghan resistance in the end, but the sophisticated, never-endinding supply certainly hurried Russia's exit along).
IF there is a US attack on Iran, then Iran would have no reason not to flood Afghanistan with shoulder-fired SAM's, and if the West was not already out, they would be then! Perhaps that's why the Yanks and Brits etc. are packing their bags. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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With the events unfolding in Egypt, it should surely be clear now to the 'Muslim Brotherhood' fighting Assad's forces in Syria that they are just being used by Western/Zionist forces, only to be thrown to the wolves when they have served their purposes? _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Mairead Maguire tells of her investigative trip to Lebanon and Syria, and of witness reports of 'Forign Fighters' atrocities:
Syria: Nobel Peace Laureate Tells Her Account of What She Witnessed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=msA35ATXol8 _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Notice too how Libyan and Iraqi Al Qaeda nutters have just been sprung from jail in Libya and Iraq? To provide reinforcements for a badly failing NATO proxy 'rebels' effort in Syria
Israel Angered by U.S. Leaks of Submarine Missile Attack on Syria
Israeli officials say leak should have been coordinated with Tel Aviv
http://freebeacon.com/israel-angered-by-u-s-leaks-of-submarine-missile -attack-on-syria/
Israeli naval submarine / AP
BY: Bill Gertz - July 24, 2013 5:00 am
Israeli government officials voiced anger at U.S. press leaks traced to the Pentagon following the July 5 Israeli missile attack on the Syrian port of Latakia that destroyed a shipment of Russian-made anti-ship missiles, according to U.S. officials.
Senior Pentagon officials, including Deputy Secretary of Defense Ashton Carter who is currently visiting Israel, discussed the leaks during meetings with Israeli officials this week. The Israelis argued in private meetings and other exchanges that the disclosures could lead to Syrian counterattacks against Israel and should have been coordinated first with the Israeli government.
Pentagon press secretary George Little declined to comment when asked if Carter discussed the leaks in meetings with Israeli officials on Monday.
The Israeli military attack was unusual because it involved a submarine-launched cruise missile strike on the Syrian city of Latakia, a major port.
The covert attack destroyed a stockpile of what was believed to be 50 new Russian-made anti-ship missiles called the Yakhont that U.S. officials said could be used against ships that will provide arms in the future to Syrian rebels.
According to U.S. officials, the Israeli government censored domestic press reports about the attack over concerns that any public discussion might prompt Syrian counterattacks against the Jewish state.
Israel also feared the Yakhont missiles would be transferred to Hezbollah, the Lebanese-based Iranian terrorist organization that in the past was supplied by Iran with advanced Chinese anti-ship missiles.
A Hezbollah-fired C-802 anti-ship missile was used to nearly sink an Israeli corvette off the coast of Lebanon during the 2006 summer war. The C-802s were sold to Iran in the 1990s and transferred to Hezbollah to reaffirm the U.S. commitment to the unprecedented security cooperation between the United States and Israel, and to discuss a range of issues of mutual importance, including Syria and Iran,” by Tehran.
Carter met with senior Israeli security officials “Little said in a statement issued Monday.
Among those who met with Carter were Defense Minister Moshe “Boogie” Ya’alon, National Security Advisor retired Maj. Gen. Yaakov Amidror, and retired Maj. Gen. Udi Shani, director general of the Defense Ministry.
“They reaffirmed that the U.S.-Israel defense relationship has never been stronger and agreed to continue to consult closely on shared security interests,” Little said.
The reports on the Latakia raid that angered the Israelis first appeared on CNN July 12 and a day later in the New York Times.
The news organizations quoted “multiple U.S. officials,” and “American officials” respectively.
Israel has carried out several foreign military attacks in recent years, most notably the airstrike that destroyed a Syrian-North Korean nuclear facility at Al Kibar, Syria.
Israel’s military has also conducted attacks in Syria in recent months that were aimed at destroying caches of shoulder-fired surface-to-air missiles and Iranian short-range ballistic missiles believed destined for Hezbollah fighters.
A U.S. official said signs of Israeli anger over the Latakia raid disclosures appeared in several Israel press outlets. One Israeli official was described as “furious” over the leak because the Pentagon did not coordinate its release of information first with Israel.
Other Israeli officials were quoted as saying that in the aftermath of the Yakhont missile strikes that ties between Israel and Syria had reached a new peak and that there are worries that tying Israel to the attack will prompt Syrian leader Bashar al-Assad to retaliate soon or against a future Israeli attack.
Israel has said that it would take action to prevent chemical weapons from falling into the hands of terrorists in Syria. But it has not commented on its lesser actions against Syrian arms sent to the Damascus regime by Russia or Iran, Assad’s main backers.
Israeli press commentary on the Latakia raid disclosures suggested the U.S. news reported risked the lives of Israeli and may have been part of Obama administration debate over U.S. military intervention in Syria’s civil war.
Another commentator, Dan Margalit, stated in the daily newspaper Yisrael Hayom that the leak was part of a U.S. ploy to force Israel into the Syrian conflict as a way to pressure Assad into stepping down and leaving the country, as a way to avoid U.S. military intervention.
Another journalist, Ron Ben-Yishay, wrote on the news website Ynetnews that the Pentagon leaked the information to show that airstrikes in Syria are possible.
Gen. Martin Dempsey, chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, this week outlined U.S. military options for Syria in a letter to Senate Armed Services Committee Chairman Sen. Carl Levin (D., Mich.).
The Obama administration recently agreed to supply Syrian rebels with small arms but is considering larger military intervention, including the imposition of an air exclusive zone over Syria.
An Israeli government spokesman referred questions about the leaks to a comment made by Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu that was published July 21 in the German news outlet Welt am Sonntag.
Asked if it bothered him that sensitive information was leaked on the Latakia raid and other past operations by Israel’s American friends, Netanyahu said: “I am not responsible for what people say we do or don’t do. I am responsible for our policy which is to prevent the transfer of dangerous weapons to Hezbollah and I am also responsible for what we say and if I have anything to say, I’ll say it.” _________________ www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org
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Rebels target Assad convoy, Syria president said to be unhurt
http://t.co/29T2Wdz8t1
No, Israel & NATO target Assad convoy & train FSA
Iraq, Pakistan & Libya breakout prisoners, armed by western taxpayers, finish the job.
Quote: | Rebels reportedly target Assad's convoy, Syrian president said to be unhurt
By REUTERS
08/08/2013 09:01
Syrian President Bashar Assad was en route to attend Eid al-Fitr prayers, but state television shows political leader unharmed.
http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Rebels-reportedly-target-Assads-convo y-Syrian-president-unhurt-322416
AMMAN - Syrian rebels said on Thursday they targeted President Bashar Assad's motorcade heading to a Damascus mosque to mark the Muslim holiday of Eid al-Fitr, but state television showed him unharmed and the government denied he had been attacked.
The Tahrir al-Sham rebel brigade, a unit of the Free Syrian Army, said it fired several artillery shells towards Assad's convoy in the heart of the capital and that at least some hit their target.
If confirmed, the attack would be one of the most direct against Assad in two years of conflict which have pitched mainly Sunni Muslim rebels against the Alawite president.
Rebels have targeted Assad's residences in Damascus and a bombing in the capital last year killed four of his inner circle, but there have been no reports of Assad himself coming under fire.
Video footage distributed by the Tahrir al-Sham rebels showed smoke rising from what it said was the Malki district, where Assad and his close aides have homes. Other activists also reported rocket fire into the area.
Syria's government denied the reports. "The news is wholly untrue," Information Minister Omran Zoabi said.
Firas al-Bitar, head of the Tahrir al-Sham brigade, said his fighters had carried out reconnaissance of the route of Assad's motorcade and fired 120 mm artillery towards the president's convoy early on Thursday.
"The attack rattled the regime, even if Assad was not hit," he told Reuters from an undisclosed location in the capital. "There were two motorcades, one containing Assad and a decoy. We targeted the correct one."
Bitar's brigade operates mainly in the Ghouta region on the eastern outskirts of the capital. Another official in Tahrir al-Sham said Assad's forces fired rockets and artillery "like rain" on the region in response to the reported attack.
Following the statement, Syrian state television showed footage of Assad praying alongside ministers and other top officials. It said the footage was from Thursday's Eid prayers at the Anas bin Malek Mosque in Malki.
Assad appeared unharmed and smiled at the worshipers as he entered the mosque.
Islam Alloush of the Liwa al-Islam, another rebel brigade, told Reuters earlier on Thursday that rebels fired rockets which struck Assad's motorcade.
"Assad was not hit but the information we have based from sources within the regime is that there were casualties within his entourage," Allooush said.
Other activists also reported rockets were fired into the Malki area, which was sealed off by security forces. |
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Tuesday, August 06, 2013 10:57 AM
Rebels in Israeli uniforms fight in Syria
A Syrian army officer has revealed that dozens of militants of the so-called Free Syrian Army (FSA) dressed in Israeli uniforms are fighting government forces in Syria.
Citing informed sources, the officer told al-Alam on Monday on condition of anonymity that the foreign-backed militants have been seen in different areas including in Jobar, a village on the outskirts of Damascus.
The Syrian army also found dead bodies of militants who wore Israeli uniforms, he said, adding Hebrew words have been printed inside the uniform.
He added that the uniforms also have marked by FSA tags and al-Ghouta brigades.
Using Israeli uniforms by the foreign-backed militants proves their links to the Israeli regime, he added.
Meanwhile, the authorities in Homs governorate seized a Peugeot 404 car loaded with amounts of weapons including Israeli weapons, explosive devices, ammunition and military uniforms in al-Zeer Street in al-Khaldiyeh neighborhood a week ago.
A military source said, the authorities also found an Israeli-made machine gun and hand grenades as well as remote-controlled explosive devices.
The war in Syria started in March 2011, when pro-reform protests turned into a massive insurgency following intervention of western and regional states.
The unrest, which took in terrorist groups from across Europe, the Middle East and North Africa, has transpired as one of the bloodiest conflicts in recent history.
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Media hypes latest ‘chemical’ attack in Syria but evidence does not add up
August 21, 2013 By 21wire Leave a Comment
21st Century Wire says…
Today’s report of the nerve gas attack in the suburbs of Damascus has made its way through the world media, prompting a sweeping condemnation of the Assad government by pundits and politicians in the US and Europe.
Opposition “activists” claim that rockets with nerve gas hit the suburbs of Ain Tarma, Zamalka and Jobar in the Ghouta region – although they would not specify exactly who fired those rockets. The Syrian government denies these accusations, and maintain there is no truth to the reports.
Unfortunately, further confirmation is still required in order to determine exactly what has happened, let alone, who is responsible if indeed it was a chemical weapons attack that took place.
The timing of this sensational report is also suspect, as the UN chemical inspection team had just arrived in Damascus and had checked into a hotel only a few miles away from last night’s alleged nerve gas incident.
Although the headlines we see across media today appear to be definitive, when you read the fine print, it’s anything but final, as evidenced by the Reuters coverage:
“Reuters was not able to verify the accounts independently and they were denied by Syrian state television, which said they were disseminated deliberately to distract a team of United Nations chemical weapons experts which arrived three days ago.”
“Logically, it would make little sense for the Syrian government to employ chemical agents at such a time, particularly given the relatively close proximity of the targeted towns (to the U.N. team),” said Charles Lister, analysts at IHS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Center.”
Who benefits from staging a chemical weapons event in Syria? Answer: the opposition. The West’s has already announced it ambiguous “red line”, stating that its policy will be to intervene militarily if either side is thought to be using chemical weapons in Syria – which makes it all to easy for the opposition to get what they want in the end – which is a Libya-style military coalition with NATO, and perhaps Israel, in order to take power in the country.
21st Century Wire’s Patrick Henningsen reports on this latest attack on RT this morning:
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New Chemical Weapons Attack In Syria Another False Flag?
http://www.activistpost.com/2013/08/new-chemical-weapons-attack-in-syr ia.html
Why detonate chemical weapons in front of UN chemical experts? Why wait until after they arrive to do so? Why detonate chemical weapons so close to them?
First, although there is some video evidence of chemical weapons usage, the estimates of the extent of the atrocity as well as the blame for the attacks are coming entirely from the death squads themselves. Both in the title to the Reuters article mentioned above and in nearly all of the mainstream media reports, statistics and information is prefaced by the phrase “activists say.” “Activists say,” of course, can be translated merely as “death squads” say, as the activists being referred to are indeed nothing more than terrorist killers politically, ideologically, and physically invested in the outcome and presentation of the Syrian crisis. In short, these individuals have a vested interest in the blame for these attacks being placed on Assad, popular opinion being turned against the Syrian government, and some type of condemnation or military action being taken against the Syrian army.
Second, the location of the attack is heavily suspect. The Ghouta region, where the attacks allegedly took place, is an area that is currently overrun with death squad organizations such as Jabhat al-Nusra and is largely seen to be under death squad control. It is also interesting to note that the attacks come at a time when this area has been under heavy military bombardment as of late, suggesting that the death squads themselves may have detonated chemical weapons as a move of desperation and coordination with NATO/Anglo-American interests seeking to justify military action against Syria.
Third, and even more interesting, is the fact that the chemical weapons attacks comes just days after a team of U.N. chemical experts entered Damascus and checked into a hotel a few miles from the targeted area. With this in mind, one must ask “why would Assad order the use of chemical weapons in this area at such an inopportune time?” Given the track record of Assad’s cleverness, this seems to be an incredibly foolish move, even as the Syrian army has gained the clear upper hand against the death squads. Why detonate chemical weapons in front of UN chemical experts? Why wait until after they arrive to do so? Why detonate chemical weapons so close to them?
These questionable details have caused even mainstream “experts” to hesitate when commenting on the nature of the alleged chemical attacks. For instance, Charles Lister, an analyst at HIS Jane’s Terrorism and Insurgency Center, stated,
Logically, it would make little sense for the Syrian government to employ chemical agents at such a time, particularly given the relatively close proximity of the targeted towns (to the U.N. team).
Nonetheless, the Ghouta region (where the attacks were reported) is well known for its opposition leanings. Jabhat al-Nusra has had a long-time presence there and the region has borne the brunt of sustained military pressure for months now.
BBC security correspondent Frank Garnder also stated something similar, when he said, “Firstly, the timing is odd, bordering on suspicious. Why would the Assad government, which has recently been retaking ground from the rebels, carry out a chemical attack while UN weapons inspectors are in the country?”
Likewise, Swedish diplomat and former UN weapons inspector Rolf Ekeus stated to Reuters that, “It would be very peculiar if it was the government to do this at the exact moment the international inspectors come into the country….at the least, it wouldn’t be very clever.”
Another Swede, chemical weapons expert Ake Sellstrom, who is currently leading the UN inspection team in Syria told SVT that the large number of victims being reported sounded “suspicious.”[4]
As I have written at length in the past, attempts to blame Assad for chemical weapons attacks[5] have taken place on at least two occasions, both times yielding convincing evidence[6] that it was the death squads, not Assad, who had used chemical weapons. Indeed, plans have been uncovered on several occasions regarding a Western attempt to stage chemical weapons attacks inside Syria which would subsequently be blamed on Assad for the purposes of justifying a Western invasion.
While it is important to examine information impartially as it appears, it is also important to speak out against falsehoods and nefarious propaganda. We cannot allow such tired and blatant propaganda to engulf Syria, the Middle East, or the world in war. _________________ www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org
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Russian Diplomat: armed terrorist groups responsible for criminal act in Ghouta to escalate situation
http://sana.sy/eng/22/2013/08/22/498579.htm
Aug 22, 2013
Beirut, (SANA) - The Russian Ambassador to Lebanon, Alexander Zasypkin, on Thursday stressed that the armed terrorist groups are responsible for the criminal act in al-Ghouta in Damascus Countryside through a locally-made missile that was launched in an area controlled by these groups.
He pointed out that the massacre comes in the framework of the plan set by the terrorists and those behind them in order to mix things up in light of the Syrian Arab Army's field success with the aim of escalating the political and security situation, in addition to posing the chemical weapon issue as a pretext to pass resolutions against the Syrian state.
In an interview with the Lebanese al-Manar TV, Zasypkin clarified that the Russian stance is built on information and analysis which prove that the missile was launched from armed terrorist groups' sites.
He called for standing in the face of the armed opposition's scheme in order not to allow it to benefit from the crime, as there should be an international pressure on the 'opposition' to participate in finding a political settlement through the international Conference on Syria.
He reaffirmed his country's firm approach regarding the crisis in Syria, clarifying that there is no room for rumors on compromises, as Russia has geopolitical constants- not narrow interests. _________________ www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org
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Russia says Syria chemical weapons incident pushed by NATO Israel as provocation, shows sarin cannot be involved
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Good website opposing the latest pro-war propaganda of our politicians and media
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Come on, lads and lassies! There is no time to lose. Hague spouts rubbish about: "I know some people in the world would like to say this is some kind of conspiracy brought about by the opposition in Syria - I think the chances of that are vanishingly small. So we do believe this is a chemical attack by the Assad regime on a large scale but we would like the United Nations to be able to assess that so those who don't believe that, those who doubt that, the evidence can be gathered. But that is certainly our opinion."
Well, as Christine Keeler said, 'He would say that, wouldn't he?'
Yes, Christine, we need you now; the NWO Turd Hague 'would say that, wouldn't he?' 'Tell the Truth to Power'; good girl!! I only wish there was some newsworthy folks around who would 'Tell it like it is'.
Although I have sent this out to the 9/11 list, I'm putting it on here too because some folks check this site out, but aren't on the list.
There isn't any confirming news from other sources, but 12160 ('Infowars' linked site) sent following info about Le Figaro report:
The drumbeat to war is intensifying, and according to this report by Le Figaro may be imminent: 'American, Israeli And Jordanian Troops And CIA Agents Have Entered Syria, Le Figaro Reports': http://12160.info/forum/topics/american-israeli-and-jordanian-troops-a nd-cia-agents-have-entered?xg_source=msg_mes_network
I have copied a slightly amended email I sent to my MP and a few others (I am aware that MP's only respond to their constituents, but as these other ones I emailled were in 'Stop the War', I sent it to them for information purposes.
Please write to your own MP's, either in your own words or you can use my email below (I am not suggesting it is particularly good, but it would save time if you don't want to work some wording out for yourself), as it does contain a lot of relevant info, to try to get this evidence of the likelihood of any proven use of Chemical Weapons as a likely 'False Flag'.
Dear xyz MP,
Please read through the following information, and then bring it to the attention of the British Government and House, especially Cameron Hague and Clegg, to help stop any attack on Syria, especially if it is carried out on the back of lies, like Iraq and Libya.
Here is a copy of an email I sent to my MP Jim Fitzpatrick; I'm afraid I don't have a great deal of faith in his 'New Labour' credentials, but I have to try.
There is quite a lot of info included; I hope you will consider it, and make whatever use you can of it:
'Hi Mr. Fitzpatrick MP,
In view of the unproven allegations being bandied about by the media and MP's, particularly by Secretary of State for Foreign and Commonwealth Affairs, William Hague, would you please check out the following information, and bring it to the attention of the House, especially Hague, Cameron and Nick Clegg?
Though there is no definitive proof that the Chemical Weapons have been deployed and used by the Syrian 'Rebels' ('Terrorists and Insurgents' would be a better description) there is also no proof that Chemical Weapons have been used by Assad's forces; indeed, it would make no sense for him to risk their use, even if he was inclined to, because of the very real possibility that NATO would come down on Syria like a ton of bricks. He is managing to roll back the terrorists with his conventional weapons.
I hope you will understand the urgency of this alternative information being put before the House; I don't believe the British public, or you or I, wish to see the UK embroiled in another war based on lies.
Originally this was covered by the UK 'Daily Mail', but was rapidly removed:
'A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme ‘approved by Washington’ is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons....'
It reads: ‘Phil… We’ve got a new offer. It’s about Syria again. Qataris propose an attractive deal and swear that the idea is approved by Washington. ‘We’ll have to deliver a CW to Homs, a Soviet origin g-shell from Libya similar to those that Assad should have. ‘They want us to deploy our Ukrainian personnel that should speak Russian and make a video record. ‘Frankly, I don’t think it’s a good idea but the sums proposed are enormous. Your opinion? ‘Kind regards, David.’ The emails were released by a Malaysian hacker who also obtained senior executives resumés and copies of passports via an unprotected company server, according to Cyber War News. Dave Goulding’s Linkedin profile lists him as Business Development Director at Britam Defence Ltd in Security and Investigations.
Remember Saddam's phantom 'WMD's'; remember the 'young Kuwaiti girl' who tearfully explained how she had 'personally seen Iraqi soldiers take babies out of incubators in a Kuwaiti hospital, throw the babies on the cold floor, and steal the incubators'; this was then repeated ad infinitum by people including George HW Bush; it gave enough anger to the US population to allow BushCo to invade Kuwait to throw back Saddam's forces, whereas before there was not a lot of an appetite for the planned invasion.
It later turned out the 'young Kuwaiti girl' was none other than the daughter of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the US, and she hadn't been anywhere near Kuwait at the time.
It also turned out she had been coached in how to make her tearful presentation by one of the biggest PR firms in America.
Colin Powell also infamously said that Saddam had ranged masses of tanks along the Saudi border; it was, again, later shown to be a total lie (Russian satellite pics showed NO tanks whatsoever). Colin Powell was the officer in charge of trying to cover up the 'Mei Lei' massacre in Vietnam.
Now I wonder why the MSM (except briefly the 'Daily Mail' don't print any of this??
The Syria Chemical Weapons Hoax:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-syria-chemical-weapons-hoax/5339208
'Fact: Clear evidence proves so-called “rebels” used sarin and other chemical weapons multiple times.
UN investigators confirmed insurgent sarin use. They did so before equivocating on their initial statement. Waffling followed heavy Western pressure.
In March, credible evidence showed insurgents used chemical weapons. Home-made rockets fired contained CL 17.
It’s a form of chlorine. It induces vomiting, fainting, suffocation and seizures. People nearby were affected.
Civilians are harmed most. So-called “rebels” target them. Assad loyalists are most vulnerable.
Fact: A no longer accessible January 29, 2013 UK Daily Mail report headlined “US ‘backed plan to launch chemical weapon attack on Syria and blame it on Assad’s regime,’ ” saying:
“Leaked emails have allegedly proved that the White House gave the green light to a chemical weapons attack in Syria that could be blamed on Assad’s regime and in turn, spur international military action in the devastated country.”
“A report released on Monday contains an email exchange between two senior officials at British-based contractor Britam Defence where a scheme ‘approved by Washington’ is outlined explaining that Qatar would fund rebel forces in Syria to use chemical weapons.”
Fact: In late May, Turkish police arrested 12 suspected Al Nusra fighters. They were seized in southern Turkey. They were caught red-handed with a two gm cylinder of sarin nerve gas.
Initial Turkish media reports said four and a half pounds of sarin were seized. Handguns, grenades, bullets and various documents were found...'
The Forbidden Truth: The U.S. is Channeling Chemical Weapons to Al Qaeda in Syria, Obama is a Liar and a Terrorist:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-forbidden-truth-the-u-s-is-channellin g-chemical-weapons-to-al-qaeda-in-syria-obama-is-a-liar-and-a-terroris t/5339004
'US-NATO Are Training “Opposition” Rebels in the Use of Chemical Weapons
The chemical weapons accusations are fabricated. In a bitter irony, the evidence amply confirms that the chemical weapons are being used not by Syrian government forces but by the US supported Al Qaeda rebels.
In a twisted logic whereby realities are turned upside down, the Syrian government is being accused of the atrocities committed by the US sponsored Al Qaeda affiliated rebels.
The Western media is feeding disinformation into the news chain, casually refuting its own news reports. Confirmed by various sources including CNN, the Western military alliance has not only made chemical weapons available to the Al Nusrah Front, it has also sent in military contractors and special forces to train the rebels:
The training [in chemical weapons], which is taking place in Jordan and Turkey, involves how to monitor and secure stockpiles and handle weapons sites and materials, according to the sources. Some of the contractors are on the ground in Syria working with the rebels to monitor some of the sites, according to one of the officials.
The nationality of the trainers was not disclosed, though the officials cautioned against assuming all are American. (CNN, December 09, 2012, emphasis added
While the news report does not confirm the identity of the defense contractors, the official statements suggest a close contractual relationship to the Pentagon:
The US decision to hire unaccountable defence contractors to train Syrian rebels to handle stockpiles of chemical weapons seems dangerously irresponsible in the extreme, especially considering how inept Washington has so far been at making sure only trustworthy, secular rebels – to the extent they exist – receive their aid and the weapons that allies in the Gulf Arab states have been providing.
It also feeds accusations that the Syrian Foreign Ministry recently made that the US is working to frame the Syrian regime as having used or prepared for chemical warfare.
“What raises concerns about this news circulated by the media is our serious fear that some of the countries backing terrorism and terrorists might provide the armed terrorist groups with chemical weapons and claim that it was the Syrian government that used the weapons,” the letters said.”( John Glaser, Us Defense Contractors Training Syrian Rebels, Antiwar.com, December 10, 2012, emphasis added)...'
Please inform me what action you intend to take re this information, and my request to you as my MP; and again, I stress the urgency of this information being made available to the Government and the House Members.
Yours,
xyz
(also hit the 'comments' section of papers as soon as any Syria news comes through).
There is not a lot of time to act; 'Stop the War' will no doubt organise 'Demonstrations', but they will not respond to, or push, this vital information which would have at least a chance of putting the brakes on these 'shi*ehawk' NWO sociopaths and psychopaths. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7.
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William Hague is and has been a member of Conservative Friends of Israel since he was 15 years of age.
http://www.radio4all.net/index.php/program/70633
The lies and drivel he gibbers out in the name of what an arrogant so-and-so, Britain thinks this or Britain thinks that is apologism for UK/US/Israeli war crimes and fascism.
I want to see a Nazi armband on him justifying war and illegal invasion for profit because that is what he is.
Brzezinski: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, their western allies orchestrated Syria crisis
Posted on August 23, 2013 by orwellwasright | Leave a comment
http://orwellwasright.co.uk/2013/08/23/brzezinski-saudi-arabia-qatar-t heir-western-allies-orchestrated-syria-crisis/
It’s something that has been apparent for some time now – at least, to anyone reading between the lines and getting their news from outside the mainstream narrative – but to hear this from Zbigniew Brzezinski is refreshing. Brzezinski should know better than anyone the game of global politics given his background, and his words about the global political awakening seem to be resounding to this day.
via PressTV http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/06/29/311339/ksa-qatar-orchestrated- syria-crisis/
The former US national security adviser says the ongoing crisis in Syria has been orchestrated by Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and their western allies.
“In late 2011 there are outbreaks in Syria produced by a drought and abetted by two well-known autocracies in the Middle East: Qatar and Saudi Arabia,” Zbigniew Brzezinski said in an interview with The National Interest on June 24.
He added that US President Barack Obama also supported the unrest in Syria and suddenly announced that President Bashar al-Assad “has to go — without, apparently, any real preparation for making that happen.”
“Then in the spring of 2012, the election year here, the CIA under General Petraeus, according to The New York Times of March 24th of this year, a very revealing article, mounts a large-scale effort to assist the Qataris and the Saudis and link them somehow with the Turks in that effort,” said Brzezinski, who was former White House national security adviser under Jimmy Carter and now a counselor and trustee at the Center for Strategic and International Studies and a senior research professor at the School of Advanced International Studies at Johns Hopkins University.
Criticizing the Obama administration’s policies regarding Syria, he questioned, “Was this a strategic position? Why did we all of a sudden decide that Syria had to be destabilized and its government overthrown? Had it ever been explained to the American people? Then in the latter part of 2012, especially after the elections, the tide of conflict turns somewhat against the rebels. And it becomes clear that not all of those rebels are all that ‘democratic.’ And so the whole policy begins to be reconsidered.”
“I think these things need to be clarified so that one can have a more insightful understanding of what exactly US policy was aiming at,” Brzezinski added.
He also called on US officials to push much more urgently to draw in China, Russia and other regional powers to reach some kind of peaceful end to the Syrian crisis.
“I think if we tackle the issue alone with the Russians, which I think has to be done because they’re involved partially, and if we do it relying primarily on the former colonial powers in the region-France and Great Britain, who are really hated in the region-the chances of success are not as high as if we do engage in it, somehow, with China, India and Japan, which have a stake in a more stable Middle East,” Brzezinski said.
Brzezinski also warned again any US-led military intervention in Syria or arming the militants fighting government forces there.
“I’m afraid that we’re headed toward an ineffective American intervention, which is even worse. There are circumstances in which intervention is not the best but also not the worst of all outcomes. But what you are talking about means increasing our aid to the least effective of the forces opposing Assad. So at best, it’s simply damaging to our credibility. At worst, it hastens the victory of groups that are much more hostile to us than Assad ever was. I still do not understand why — and that refers to my first answer — why we concluded somewhere back in 2011 or 2012 — an election year, incidentally that Assad should go.”
Foreign-sponsored militancy in Syria, which erupted in March 2011, has claimed the lives of many people, including large numbers of Syrian soldiers and security personnel.
The New York Times said in a recent report the CIA was cooperating with Turkey and a number of other regional governments to supply arms to militants fighting the government in Syria.
The report comes as the US has repeatedly voiced concern over weapons falling into the hands of al-Qaeda-linked terrorist groups.
Al-Nusra Front was named a terrorist organization by Washington last December, even though it has been fighting with the US-backed so-called Free Syrian Army in its battle against Damascus. _________________ www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org
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Syria Chemical Warfare Claims Aim to Provoke Western Intervention:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/syria-chemical-warfare-claims-aim-to-prov oke-western-intervention/5346681
'The unsubstantiated charges that the Syrian regime of President Bashar al-Assad carried out a chemical weapons attack outside Damascus killing large numbers of civilians have all the hallmarks of a staged provocation aimed at provoking Western intervention.
Reports of the attack were made by Western-backed opponents of the Assad regime early Wednesday, just as a United Nations chemical weapons inspection team, admitted to Syria by the government just 72 hours earlier, began its work.
Indeed, according to the opposition sources reporting the chemical weapons attacks, they took place in Eastern Ghouta in the eastern suburbs of Damascus, just a few miles from where the UN inspection team is headquartered.
Initial contradictory reports of the alleged attack put the number of victims at as few as 20 and as many as 1,300....' _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Russian Advanced Weapons for Syria: Unrevealed Secrets of Vladimir Putin’s Recent Visit to London:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/russian-advanced-weapons-for-syria-unreve aled-secrets-of-vladimir-putins-recent-visit-to-london/5339559
'As Russia is a sovereign nation dealing with the sovereign, legitimate government of Syria, some new arms which have never left Russia before [never previously deployed in Syria] will be delivered to the Syrian military.
The Patriot Missiles will be hit and repealed with S 300 SAM [already installed in Syria]. Putin also threatened to deliver the more advanced S400 anti-aircraft missiles (see image below) far superior to the Patriot missiles and ranked as the World’s most advanced air defense system.
He added that Russia will also supply Syria with state-of –the-art 24-Barrell rocket launchers which have a range of 60 km ranked as the most developed artillery weapon of its kind.(see video below)
He added that Russia will supply 400 of these launchers which will be able to destroy all targets around Syria’s borders...' _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Evidence Indicates that Syrian Government Did Not Launch a Chemical Weapon Attack Against Its People:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/evidence-indicates-that-syrian-government -did-not-launch-a-chemical-weapon-attack-against-its-people/5346804
'CBS News reports that the U.S. is finalizing plans for war against Syria – and positioning ships to launch cruise missilesagainst the Syrian government – based on the claim that the Syrian government used chemical weapons against its people.
The last time the U.S. blamed the Syrian government for a chemical weapons attack, that claim was was debunked....'
'AFP reports:
“At the moment, I am not totally convinced because the people that are helping them are without any protective clothing and without any respirators,” said Paula Vanninen, director of Verifin, the Finnish Institute for Verification of the Chemical Weapons Convention.
“In a real case, they would also be contaminated and would also be having symptoms.”
John Hart, head of the Chemical and Biological Security Project at Stockholm International Peace Research Institute said he had not seen the telltale evidence in the eyes of the victims that would be compelling evidence of chemical weapons use.
“Of the videos that I’ve seen for the last few hours, none of them show pinpoint pupils… this would indicate exposure to organophosphorus nerve agents,” he said.
Gwyn Winfield, editor of CBRNe World magazine, which specialises in chemical weapons issues, said the evidence did not suggest that the chemicals used were of the weapons-grade that the Syrian army possesses in its stockpiles.
“We’re not seeing reports that doctors and nurses… are becoming fatalities, so that would suggest that the toxicity of it isn’t what we would consider military sarin. It may well be that it is a lower-grade,” Winfield told AFP...' _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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just to think how the cretin media just trot out their SEDITIOUS dross
Former French Foreign Minister: The War against Syria was Planned Two years before “The Arab Spring”
By Gearóid Ó Colmáin - Global Research, June 15, 2013
http://www.globalresearch.ca/former-french-foreign-minister-the-war-ag ainst-syria-was-planned-two-years-before-the-arab-spring/5339112
In an interview with the French TV station LCP, former French minister for Foreign Affairs Roland Dumas said:
‘’ I’m going to tell you something. I was in England two years before the violence in Syria on other business. I met with top British officials, who confessed to me that they were preparing something in Syria.
This was in Britain not in America. Britain was organizing an invasion of rebels into Syria. They even asked me, although I was no longer minister for foreign affairs, if I would like to participate.
Naturally, I refused, I said I’m French, that doesn’t interest me.’’
Dumas went on give the audience a quick lesson on the real reason for the war that has now claimed the lives of tens of thousands of people.
‘’This operation goes way back. It was prepared, preconceived and planned… in the region it is important to know that this Syrian regime has a very anti-Israeli stance.
Consequently, everything that moves in the region- and I have this from the former Israeli prime minister who told me ‘we’ll try to get on with our neighbours but those who don’t agree with us will be destroyed.
It’s a type of politics, a view of history, why not after all. But one should know about it.’’ _________________ www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org
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There will be an 'Emergency' Demo by Stop the War tomorrow, Wednesday 28th August.
Jeremy Corbyn & Lindsey German sent the following letter to David Cameron; at least it broaches the subject of if CW's were used, it is not clear who by:
http://www.stopwar.org.uk/statements/syria-letter-to-cameron
'There is no clear evidence that chemical weapons have been used, or by whom. Carla Del Ponte, a member of the UN Commission of Inquiry taking testimony from victims of the Syrian conflict, has recently expressed ‘strong, concrete suspicions’ that sarin nerve gas is being used by opposition forces. And even in the event that chemical weapons have been used, you have failed to make the case as to why arming one side would improve rather than aggravate the situation.
There has long been covert arming and provision of aid to the opposition by various powers, including Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the UK, France and the US. Israel has now engaged in its second bombing raid on Syrian territory, in flagrant violation of the rules of international law...'
They have a Demo planned for Downing Street tomorrow at 17.00 - 19.00, with further protests due for this weekend. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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