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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: |
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This one is supremely brilliant:
I have small children but will be happy to carry minimum belongings in a clear bag as hand luggage in future. However, airlines need to be less greedy and provide free water on board, soft drinks and snacks for children and free headphones to provide entertainment. They could also supply nappies/wipes and essential toiletries.
One question: do those travelling first class have the same restrictions on luggage?
http://skynews.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/08/a_major_terrori.html#comm ents
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Roger the Horse Moderate Poster
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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And this is the third most recommended;
Added: Thursday, 10 August, 2006, 08:20 GMT 09:20 UK
Hand luggage has been going through x-ray security checks for as long as I can recall, luggage for the hold won’t be treated any differently. This is just for show, it’s window dressing that only serves to keep us scared and the more we are scared the more the government can play its “We are strong on terrorism” angle. But this posturing can only lead to a serious weakening of our civil liberties; Stop & Search anyone? Armed Police anyone? Shoot to kill anyone? Tanks on the streets anyone?
ashley woodfall, london
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 12:58 pm Post subject: |
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Help me please - I can't stop laughing.
As long as I get free baby wipes I couldn't give a monkeys.
LOLOL
"Scuse me Missus would you like to drink that baby milk for me please, you know airport security"
"But, I'm breast feeding officer"
"Well would you mind expressing some for me please, in front of the camera, just so we know it's not explosive"
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CrazyBlade Minor Poster
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:01 pm Post subject: |
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And now its official - Sky News calling it the "10/8 Plot"
Journalism at its finest...
*shakes head*
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Roger the Horse Moderate Poster
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:03 pm Post subject: |
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CrazyBlade wrote: | And now its official - Sky News calling it the "10/8 Plot"
Journalism at its finest...
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Hasn't really got the same ring to it as 9/11 or 7/7 really has it?
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Roger the Horse Moderate Poster
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:05 pm Post subject: |
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CrazyBlade wrote: | And now its official - Sky News calling it the "10/8 Plot"
Journalism at its finest...
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Let's just hope they don't decide to rig one for February the 2nd.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:08 pm Post subject: |
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I just can't wait for the Osama Bin Laden video.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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SKY
"Two men arrested in Birmingham this morning."
Earlier, "no armed police involved in raid."
"Police will not confirm where the arrests took place"
Birmingham witnesses:
"Lock up garages at rear of premises. Every week large lorries arriving with huge crates"
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uselesseater Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:15 pm Post subject: |
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I've had the radio on all morning and it seems, from the callers, that there is a great deal doubt over the authenticity of the threat. Most other callers criticise US/UK forien policy. I haven't heard one caller support the security services/government unequivically.
There are a great number of commentators to reasure us that we really are under an 'Unimaginable' threat who are required to force back joe publics instinct for truth.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:19 pm Post subject: |
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Uselesseater - good on them, things are changing, slowly but surely.
Great name btw !
I must admit to being surprised earlier when the obviously not a spook, Crispin Black on the BBC, voluntarily started going on about "cynicism" !
Damage limitation ?
See earlier post.
Amidst the "horror" of "the baby milk bomb plot" we have a"terror correspondent" banging on about "cynicism in emails"
Hmmm...
Excellent.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject: |
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Brilliant post here from the Sky news comments:
Who are the terrorists, Mr. President?..
I have been enlisted
by my President
to stay the course
to fight the terrorists
until they are gone.
I will, Mr. President, but
the questions are endless
in my mind.
Who are the terrorists, Mr. President?
and do they have roots?
or is theirs a virgin birth?
or manna from heaven?
God, their source.
Are they the ones
who blew up the trains and the bus
in London?
Are they the ones
who strap explosives to their bodies
and blow themselves up
in Iraq
and Israel?
Are they the ones
who flew the planes into
the World Trade Center
and the Pentagon
and the field in Pennsylvania?
Are they the ones
who shot the seven thousand Muslims
in Srebrenica?
Are they the ones
who slaughtered the Palestinians
in Chatilla and Sabra?
Do they have roots
in the Trail of Tears
of the Cherokee Nation?
Do they have roots
in the fight against Franco
in Spain?
Do they have roots
in the dropping of the bomb
on Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
Do they have roots in Fallujah?
The questions are endless
in my mind.
Who are the terrorists, Mr. President?
and do they have roots?
or is theirs a virgin birth
or manna from heaven?
God, their source.
So I may stay the course
and know when they are gone,
the terrorists and their roots.
Who are the terrorists?
Posted by: Nicola, London 10 Aug 2006 12:08:25
http://skynews.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/08/a_major_terrori.html#comm ents
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:31 pm Post subject: |
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SKY
UK Terror "expert" Neil Doyle:
"All the hallmarks of Al Qeeda."
"Resembles Operation Bojinka."
"They regard airliners as flying missiles, planes they can take control of in mid air"
"There were some documents that were "flying" around in June this year, they are what I call plans for micro bombs, circulating on private websites on the internet, originating from the UK. It was clear that there was something in the air. The internet is a big place, a big place to hide things. People do use the internet to plan these things. They were moving toward the execution phase, police decided to move and disrupt them."
There's something "in the air" alright, I think I can smell it Neil.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:41 pm Post subject: |
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BBC
Police confirm two men arrested in Birmingham during raids earlier this morning.
Lets go live to the scene of those arrests in Birmingham.
Reporter in Wardsley Green:
I must stress that police have not confirmed that the men were arrested here.
They are concentrating on the lock up garages but as yet have found nothing.
Report switches to other terrorist attacks on planes, a repeat of Sky earlier, Lockerbie, Richard Reid etc.
"It's likely that attackers are developing ways of hiding weapons and explosives thats why these machines have been developed to see through clothing, but thats why airport authorities are reluctant to use them"
It was just a matter of time wasn't it.
You must have these machines, stop dragging your feet. Place your orders now.
And we all know who makes them don't we....
More damage limitation from the BBC and David Davies:
We shouldn't be jumping through hoops every time we successfully foil a terrorist plot.
BBC: There have been many members of the public, Asian radio stations expressing cynicism about this attack
Davies: Oh I wouldn't attach too much importance to those.
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Bowery Boy Minor Poster
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:43 pm Post subject: Not very smart |
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Reminds me of the "suicide bomber who went upstairs to sit on the back seat of a bus."
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physicist Moderate Poster
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:53 pm Post subject: |
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MI5 have discovered weapons of mass destruction:
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dry kleaner Minor Poster
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sinclair wrote: | Potma Patel http://postmanpatel.blogspot.com/ &
SpyBlog http://www.spy.org.uk/spyblog/
have some critical analysis of the situation.
& from Medialensmessageboard:
"John Reid yesterday accused the government's anti-terror critics of putting national security at risk by their failure to recognise the serious nature of the threat facing Britain. "They just don't get it," he said."
If the world situation wasn't so serious, these statements would be laughable. Because what Reid is saying is true, but its not the supposed 'anti-terror critics' who have and continue to put national security at risk, but Blair and his government - Reid himself.
The continued and unconditional membership of Britain in the authentic 'axis of evil' alongside the US and Israel, helping the ripping apart of international law - the UN Charter, Geneva Conventions, etc., aiding the virtual destruction of the UN as a force for good, facilitatng the genocide of the Palestinian & Lebanese, and actively participating in the genocide of the Iraqi and Afghanistani people (codenamed the War on Terrorism (WOT?) but which really looks like a war on Islam), and the gradual elimination of freedoms and the move towards a fascist state, all these things combined are the real "threat facing Britain".
Reid is right. They just don't get it. |
Reid makes me think of this quote, sorry about the caps.
"NATURALLY THE COMMON PEOPLE DON’T WANT WAR, BUT AFTER ALL, IT IS THE LEADERS OF A COUNTRY WHO DETERMINE THE POLICY, AND IT IS ALWAYS A SIMPLE MATTER TO DRAG PEOPLE ALONG WHETHER IT IS A DEMOCRACY, OR A FASCIST DICTATORSHIP, OR A PARLIAMENT, OR A COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP. VOICE OR NO VOICE, THE PEOPLE CAN ALWAYS BE BROUGHT TO THE BIDDING OF THE LEADERS. THIS IS EASY. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS TELL THEM THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED, AND DENOUNCE THE PACIFISTS FOR LACK OF PATRIOTISM AND EXPOSING THE COUNTRY TO DANGER. IT WORKS THE SAME IN EVERY COUNTRY."
Hermann Goering after WW2
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:54 pm Post subject: |
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BBC reports statement from the Whitehouse:
"These attacks were a direct threat to the United States"
The Global Village Idiot is due to speak around 17:30
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dry kleaner Minor Poster
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 1:58 pm Post subject: |
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physicist wrote: | MI5 have discovered weapons of mass destruction:
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Its more likely to be that new Coke Zero, *.
Double the nonsense and designed to mess with ya mind.
Peace
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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There seems to be a concerted effort to play down Chertoff's earlier statement about Al Qaeeda.
SKY: Maybe Chertoff has more freedom top speak about these things as he is outside of the British judicial system
BBC: John Reid did not reference Al Qaeeda
SKY: Chertoff says it bears all the hallmarks of an Al Qaeeda type plot.
Shaid Malik talks doublespeak: "If this is the case . . ."
SKY: What do you mean "If"
Malik: "We have to realise this is real, and need to wake up and smell the coffee...."
MP for Keighley: Anne Cryer: Shaid Malik isn't on the Select Committee, he is a PPS so can't be. I am.
Also, the "we're all in this together" message.
SKY: UK airports are not the only one's affected, Los Angeles, JFK, Tel Aviv are all affected.
SKY wheels out Governor of Massachusetts speaking from Boston . . .
"Counter terrorism and intelligence is the way to deal with this threat and we are grateful to the British security forces for avoiding this threat"
"We are studying behavioural patterns to detect future threats"
"We don't know how long this heightened state of alert will be active, so we just don't know how long this will be. Obviously we have anniversaries that are coming up and that is one of the reasons we are calling up the National Guard so we can carry out these activities for an extended period of time"
"I wouldn't be surprised that one of the ways that British police detected this plot was from information provided by neighbours. "
SKY quotes AFP: 5 US cities were the target of these attacks.
Air France cancels all flights in and out of the UK
A wise move non ?
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:11 pm Post subject: |
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Remember, Chertoff's exact words were, "It was in some respects suggestive of an al Qaeda plot."
"some respects"
"suggestive"
Not "was". There was nothing definite about his statement.
But of course, the words 'al Qaeda', in any context, merely provoke the predictable inference by the mob.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:28 pm Post subject: |
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Meanwhile Princess Bliar, fresh from his consultation with Molech, from his deckchair in the Caribbean:
"I would like to pay tribute to the immense effort made by the police and security services, who for a long period of time have tracked this situation and been involved in an extraordinary amount of hard work. I thank them for the great job they are doing in protecting our country.
"There has been an enormous amount of cooperation with the US authorities which has been of great value and underlines the threat we face and our determination to counter it."
or, alternatively
"I would like to pay tribute to the immense effort made by the police and security services, who for a long period of time have planned this situation and been involved in an extraordinary amount of hard work. I thank them for the great job they are doing in terrorising our country.
"There has been an enormous amount of cooperation with the US authorities which has been of great value and underlines the threat you all face and our determination to proceed with it."
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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http://ottsun.canoe.ca/News/BreakingNews/2006/08/10/1731827.html
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The plot was "intended to be mass murder on an unimaginable scale," Metropolitan Police Deputy Commissioner Paul Stephenson said.
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unimaginable?. Is the killing & murdering of innocent civilians/children that is currently happening in Iraq and Lebanon, on a different, more imaginable scale?.
Another unimaginable: seeing the 21 people swept up get a fair day in court under public scrutiny.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:36 pm Post subject: |
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More damage limitation from Sky, wheeling out Neil Doyle the terrorist expert who keeps on emphasising the internet.
Sky: You said earlier that these web sites were private. They can't be very private can they if the security services are monitoring them and terrorists can access them
Against pictures of web pages with Arabic writing and jars of stuff...
Doyle: Yeah, well it's easier for these sites to be monitored so that we know who is downloading from them. I mean Al Qaeeda have bomb making recipes all over the internet.
Sky: And John Reid's statement yesterday, I mean it seems pretty timely, do you think he knew about these things then ?
Doyle: Yeah well, he probably did know then was probably trying trying to let us know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah tell it to the judge ....
More stories from Birmingham.
Police have raided a "small Mosque" probably in a house in St Margarets Road Small Heath.
More neighbours reporting lorries arriving at premises from Holland delivering crates of what they believed was food.
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: |
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Terror as reported by Sky News:
"Eight hours without an iPod, that's the most inconvenient thing."
"It's a massive inconvenience, I can't take my make-up on the flight."
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:48 pm Post subject: |
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This just gets better and better.
Sky reporting that Al Jazeera are reporting that a hijack plot has been foiled involving a Qatar airliner.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Sky now has Fox hack reporting from the ranch in Crawford Texas claiming that GW has been kept in the loop by Bliar throughout.
Also, the phone call pictures that we all thought were about the crisis in the Middle East were actually about this plot.
Bliar emphasised that he was "gravely concerned" about the information getting out so GW briefed his senior aides in no uncertain terms that this must not be leaked.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:54 pm Post subject: |
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Sky reporting 30 billion pounds wiped off stocks with airlines and leisure most hit
Pound down against the dollar.
It's now revealed that the plot was to blow up airplanes over UK & US cities.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 2:58 pm Post subject: |
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First mention all day of our surrogate protector John Prescott.
Two jags heaves his fat arse off the nest and arrives at 10 Downing Street for COBRA meeting.
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Mark Gobell On Gardening Leave
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Posted: Thu Aug 10, 2006 3:03 pm Post subject: |
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BBC
"Suspects are mostly British born men"
"Intelligence sources say the terrorists planned to attack three planes at a time in three separate waves"
"Attack was imminent and could have been carried out in a matter of days"
"Following this alleged plot since last December"
Breaking news . . .
"Second raid in Ward End, Birmingham"
"Third raid in Yardley Road"
"Still nothing found in Wardsley"
"Nobody is prepared to go on camera here and talk"
Global Village Idiot speaks at 16:40 . . . can't wait !
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