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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:18 pm    Post subject: CIA Torture report out but CIA spied on Senate committee Reply with quote

Craig Murray on RT:

Poland: We hosted secret CIA torture prison:

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY2zhgc9Ir4

So the Bliar and MP Jack (Man? of) Straw called Craig Murray a liar (I'm sure with Parliamentary Privilege - they wouldn't have the guts to say it outside Parliament).

He exposed the Bliar's and Donald Dewar's collusion stealing the theft of a large, pprofitable chunk of Scottish Seas: 'He also exposed Tony Blair and Donald Dewar of handing 6000 sq mls of Scottish Seas and 7 of our oil fields over to the English behind our backs. No doubt he'll be made out to be the 'bad guy' for doing that too.

'In 1999, the UK establishment secretly reclassified 6,000 square miles of Scottish sea as English waters.' (from Louise A, commenter on The Scotman 'newspaper': http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/top-stories/ex-ambassador-craig- murray-to-be-snp-candidate-1-3630018# ).


The Stolen Seas youtube http://youtu.be/GfbfldSrJ-0

Here is Craig's website: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/


Get commenting on newspaper reports of Poland's admission to knowing about US 'Black Sites' for torture in Poland, and the general US Torture Report reporting.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 11, 2014 2:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CIA torture report: The three British plots that the CIA falsely cited to justify torture

CIA's justification for the use of torture methods 'rested on inaccurate claims of their effectiveness', report says
DAVID USBORNE Author Biography US EDITOR Wednesday 10 December 2014
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/cia-torture-report-th e-three-british-plots-that-the-cia-falsely-cited-to-justify-torture-99 14178.html

Over several years, the CIA wrongfully asserted that eight separate terror plots had been foiled because of the interrogation programme and countless lives had been saved.

The Senate Intelligence Committee report released on Tuesday counters that in all those cases there was never any basis for such claims. The CIA's justification for the use of these torture methods in fact "rested on inaccurate claims of their effectiveness,” it said.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reinvestigate 9/11!
CIA torture report: criminal elite abusing 9/11 attacks for rendition, drugs, war & profit

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 13, 2014 7:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Snowden on CIA torture report: US commited inexcusable crimes (FULL VIDEOLINK) : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ6w2Wn5rfg

The sound is not too good in some of it, but it's fairly good later on.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TUESDAY, JUN 30, 2009 05:31 PM BST
The suppressed fact: Deaths by U.S. torture
The unstated premise of every torture debate -- that it was safely applied to a handful of detainees -- is false

http://www.salon.com/2009/06/30/accountability_7/

GLENN GREENWALD
TOPICS: WASHINGTON, D.C., POLITICS NEWS

After numerous delays sought by the Obama administration, it is expected that a 2004 CIA Inspector General’s Report — aggressively questioning both the efficacy and legality of Bush’s interrogation tactics — will be released tomorrow. A heavily redacted version of that document was already released by the Bush administration in response to an ACLU lawsuit and it remains to be seen how much new information will be included in tomorrow’s version.
In anticipation of the release of that report, there is an important effort underway — as part of the ACLU Accountability Project — to correct a critically important deficiency in the public debate over torture and accountability. So often, the premise of media discussions of torture is that “torture” is something that was confined to a single tactic (waterboarding) and used only on three “high-value” detainees accused of being high-level Al Qaeda operatives. The reality is completely different.
The interrogation and detention regime implemented by the U.S. resulted in the deaths of over 100 detainees in U.S. custody — at least. While some of those deaths were the result of ”rogue” interrogators and agents, many were caused by the methods authorized at the highest levels of the Bush White House, including extreme stress positions, hypothermia, sleep deprivation and others. Aside from the fact that they cause immense pain, that’s one reason we’ve always considered those tactics to be “torture” when used by others — because they inflict serious harm, and can even kill people. Those arguing against investigations and prosecutions — that we Look to the Future, not the Past — are thus literally advocating that numerous people get away with murder.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

These 7 Men Owned The Company Linked To CIA Torture
HUNTER WALKER DEC. 11, 2014, 5:59 AM 3,859 1
James Mitchell

http://uk.businessinsider.com/the-company-behind-cia-torture-2014-12

James Mitchell, CEO of Mitchell, Jessen & Associates, began working with Dr. John Bruce Jessen in the Air Force Survival School SERE program in the 1980s.

The US Senate report on the CIA's so-called enhanced interrogation techniques that was released on Tuesday said a firm identified only as "Company Y" was responsible for developing many of the tactics used during the questioning of terrorism suspects after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

After the release of the details of the Senate investigation, NBC News reported the company that worked to develop these techniques and received more than $80 million from the government for its work was a firm based in Spokane, Washington, called Mitchell, Jessen & Associates.

While much of the attention on Mitchell, Jessen & Associates has focused on the two owners of the company who gave it its name, the firm had seven co-owners. Documents exclusively obtained by Business Insider on Wednesday confirmed the names of these seven people as well as their roles at the company. The records also detailed when Mitchell, Jessen & Associates was first established.

According to a document filed with the state of Washington in 2008, the seven owners of Mitchell, Jessen & Associates were James Mitchell, John Bruce Jessen, David Ayers, Randall Spivey, James Sporleder, Joseph Matarazzo, and Roger Aldrich.

Records show Mitchell, Jessen & Associates became inactive in October 2009. However, four of the company's owners appear to work at other firms that currently consult with the US government. Three of them — Spivey, Sporleder, and Aldrich — are still working together at a company called the Center For Personal Protection & Safety, which counts both the Department of Defense and the FBI among its clients.

Their company reportedly developed interrogation techniques the Senate report described as "brutal," including forced rectal feedings, waterboarding, sleep deprivation, mock executions, and intense psychological manipulation. Late Wednesday evening, a CIA representative said the agency would not be able to comment on this story until the following morning, at the earliest.

Reverse-Engineering Torture...

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 18, 2014 9:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig Murray describes the problem of challenging the "official story" and points to Jack Straw and Blair's complicity to CIA torture.

Control of media in UK is definite. Control does not mean ownership. Control does not mean official mechanism... control is the mindset.

http://batemanbroadcasting.com/episode-26-shocking-tale-torture-indiff erence/
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