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12 Dec 1948 - Britain's My Lai: Batang Kali massacre

 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2012 1:27 pm    Post subject: 12 Dec 1948 - Britain's My Lai: Batang Kali massacre Reply with quote

funny how all British atrocities are depicted in 10s lol as if the Empire grew out of LOVE Very Happy

Batang Kali relatives edge closer to the truth about 'Britain's My Lai massacre'
Key Malayan Emergency notes have been handed to families of the 24 unarmed victims of the December 1948 shootings
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/jan/25/malaysia-military

Prisoners during the Malayan Emergency: the Foreign Office has produced documents about the deaths of 24 Malaysian men in 1948. Photograph: Jack Birns/Time & Life Pictures/Getty Image
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Lawyers representing relatives of 24 unarmed victims who died at Batang Kali, Malaysia, in December 1948 have finally been provided with key Foreign Office correspondence about past investigations and Cabinet Office guidance on when inquiries should be held.

Even Buckingham Palace has been pulled into the furore surrounding the fate of the villagers, who were rounded up on a large rubber-tapping estate in the colonial government's counter-insurgency operation against communists, known historically as the Malayan Emergency.

A petition to the Queen about the deaths has been handed to the British high commissioner in the Malaysian capital, Kuala Lumpur, and the royal household has replied. The palace, however, has declined to release the text of the letter.

The Foreign Office and the Ministry of Defence have always insisted the villagers were shot while trying to escape detention. The incident has been described by some as the "British My Lai massacre", after the US troop killings in Vietnam.

The Malaysian relatives' hopes have been boosted by a group of Kenyan survivors, mostly now in their 80s, who won the right last summer to sue the British government for damages over claims of torture during the 1950s Mau Mau uprising. A judicial review of the government's repeated refusal to hold a public inquiry into the alleged massacre at Batang Kali is likely to be heard in the spring.

The Foreign Office has refused, so far, to release any additional documents from its still unreleased colonial-era archive. The depository at Hanslope Park, near Milton Keynes, contains thousands of files not yet handed over to the National Archives.

Previously unseen evidence of atrocities from Kenya did eventually emerge from the Foreign Office store, but the Malaysian files have so far remained closed despite repeated requests. The Foreign Office has promised to review the material, although it says it will take time.

Much of what occurred in Batang Kali is agreed. On 11 December 1948, a patrol of Scots Guards surrounded and entered the village, which lies north of the capital. The male villagers were separated. That evening, one of the men was shot by soldiers; the next day a further 23 died. None of the victims were armed and no weapons were found before the killings.

Some of the Scots Guards involved in the incident approached a Sunday newspaper in the 1970s with accounts that disputed the official version of a thwarted escape. Scotland Yard detectives subsequently interviewed the men but were prevented from flying out to Malaysia.

Solicitors have, unusually, been given access to the police files. Soldiers have also been contacted again by the lawyers but none is expected to give evidence unless a public inquiry is ordered.

John Halford, of Bindmans solicitors in London, who is representing the Batang Kali families, said: "We are not asking for anyone to be prosecuted. The surviving soldiers are too old for it to be considered appropriate. But the families want the state to take responsibility for the actions. It's necessary to get to the bottom of what happened. Extrajudicial executions by British troops have not ceased. There are recent examples [Iraq]. These are people who have been wronged and had no remedy at all.

"There should be some resolution. These were extrajudicial killings of civilians that were pre-planned. The Dutch government has now agreed to pay families from Indonesia reparations for a colonial-era massacre that occurred around the same time, in 1947.

"Although [government] solicitors have confirmed that there is material relating to Batang Kali in their secret archives, they say it's not relevant. They won't let us look at it. There was an announcement that it would be publicly accessible, but that commitment hasn't been honoured."

The Foreign Office said: "This event happened over 60 years ago. Accounts of what happened conflict and virtually all the witnesses are dead. In these circumstances it is very unlikely a public inquiry could come up with recommendations which would help to prevent any recurrence."

The FO added: "The families of those who died have chosen to take legal action to challenge this decision and so it would be inappropriate to comment further now that legal proceedings are under way."

On the question of making public the relevant files at the Hanslope Park archives, it said: "The Foreign Office … holds 8,800 files from 37 former British administrations, including Malaya. The government plans to make as much of this material as possible available to the wider public, and has confirmed that the files will be reviewed. This review process may take some time."
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 14, 2016 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

STOP PRESS
'On December 20th 2011, Lawyers, Bindmans LLP, issued the following
press release:-
Victims' families win battle for Court scrutiny of Batang
Kali massacre.
Relatives of the 24 unarmed plantation workers shot dead in December 1948
by.British troops in the Malaysian village of Batang Kali have been granted
permission for their Judicial Review to proceed to a full hearing in the UK
Courts. The hearing is likely to take place in spring 2012 and will examine
whether the Secretaries of State for Defence and the Foreign and
Commonwealth Office acted lawfully last November when they refused to
hold a Public Enquiry into both the killings and their cover up, and to make
any form of reparation to the victim's families. The Judge who granted
permission, Silber J, commented that the case raised issues that were both
"arguable" and of "importance".
357..
Victim's family members and the campaigners in Malaysia who have
supportedthem reactedwithjubilation to the decisiontoday.
Perhaps justice is at last at hand. Let us hope so. It will have taken
over sixty years to achieve it. Amen.



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Batang Kali massacre a lesson for British Army's murderers, and all others... the truth will out in end
The massacre of two dozen Malayan rubber plantation workers by soldiers almost 70 years ago could yet return to haunt stalled attempts at 'truth recovery' in Northern Ireland, writes Malachi O'Doherty

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Nearly 70 years after a mass shooting by British soldiers, families of the dead are getting an answer to their demand for an inquiry. And the answer is No.

In 1948, the year Peter Robinson and Gerry Adams were born, soldiers of the Scots Guards gunned down 24 unarmed civilians in the village of Batang Kali in Selangor, Malaya (now Malaysia). At the time the region was part of a British "protected area".

Families of the dead men heard a Supreme Court ruling last week that they are not entitled to an inquiry into the killings, but the court did leave a shocking record of what had actually happened.

Before the Second World War Malaya was a British colony. During the war it was invaded by the Japanese and, after the defeat of Japan in 1945, the communists who had fought the Japanese continued their fight to get the British out.

On July 12, 1948, a state of emergency was declared by the colonial secretary. London sent troops - many of them National Servicemen, that is conscripts with little military training.

Part of the brigade sent included men of the second battalion of the Scots Guards. Some of these men would carry out the massacre in Batang Kali.

The report to the Supreme Court says the conscripts had only three weeks' training near Kuala Lumpur before they were sent to a rubber plantation owned by a Scotsman called Thomas Menzies. Their task there was to intercept communist insurgents.

The British soldiers arrested 50 unarmed civilians in Batang Kali and separated the men from the women and children.

Through the night, while they were waiting for the expected insurgents to turn up, they interrogated and abused the civilians. They staged mock executions to scare the wits out of them. That first evening they shot and killed one young man.

All of this information is contained in the Supreme Court judgment.

During interrogations of the villagers some admitted that insurgents would come to the village for food. In the morning a delivery of rice arrived. The soldiers detained the man who brought it. They took away the women and children and herded 23 men into a hut and, knowing they were unarmed and defenceless, shot them all dead. They then burnt down the hut.

This was worse than any single atrocity the British Army ever committed in Northern Ireland, though the cumulative effect of criminal actions by soldiers here was greater. And there are clear resonances between how British soldiers behaved in Northern Ireland and how they behaved in Malaya.

The mock executions are similar to the treatment given to early internees in Northern Ireland in 1971. The initial obfuscation and lies around the killings remind one not just of the Widgery Report into Bloody Sunday, but of several other cases in which the victim was initially said to be armed, or to have pointed a gun when no gun was found.

The Scots Guards, for instance, is the same regiment that produced the murderers of Peter McBride in 1992.

As with the soldiers in Malaya, guardsmen Fisher and Wright were treated by the Army and much of the media as the victims of the whole affair. They were released early from prison by then Secretary of State Mo Mowlam.

The killings in Batang Kali were immediately misrepresented in despatches and media reports as the killing of "bandits" who were trying to escape. A pretence was made that weapons and explosives had been found.

The lies did not pass unchallenged. The Chinese Government protested that the men killed were innocent and had been massacred.

The plantation owner, Menzies, said they were all of good character. The Straits Times newspaper called for an inquiry.

Sir Stafford Foster-Sutton, the Attorney General of the Federation, and a federal counsel, Mr Shields, conducted an inquiry. Its report was lost, but Sir Stafford later told the media that he had been "absolutely satisfied a bona fide mistake had been made".

Foster-Sutton had been "satisfied of the bona fides of the patrol and there had not been anything that would have justified criminal proceedings".

A telegram from the High Commissioner to the Colonial Office said: "We feel that it is most damaging to the morale of the security forces to feel that every action of theirs, after the event, is going to be examined with the most meticulous care."

Yet, in 1969, after Malaysian independence, some of the soldiers confessed, making statements that they had been ordered to shoot unarmed men dead and had even been given the option of not participating in the massacre.

A year later, with the Tories taking office, a decision was made that no viable prosecution was now possible.

The detail about this long process of cover-up and resistance to inquiry is the most surprising thing to come out of the Supreme Court last week. On the one hand, the court ruled that the Government was under no legal onus to inquire into the massacre of Batang Kali; on the other, it left no doubt that a massacre had taken place and that the British authorities and the Army had for decades tried to hide that fact.

The ruling of the Supreme Court has roused considerable interest in Northern Ireland. The grounds on which an inquiry was refused are being interpreted by the Pat Finucane Centre and others as obliging the Government to hold inquiries into disputed killings here, because of the date at which the European Convention on Human Rights became applicable; after the Batang Kali massacre, but before the Northern Ireland Troubles.

But even without an inquiry, much detail about the Batang Kali massacre has been unearthed. The world now knows that British conscripted soldiers were ordered to murder two dozen innocent men, that the whole military establishment lied afterwards to cover it up and that successive British Governments deflected efforts away from the truth.

Those with blood on their hands, from any party, who seek to bury the past here can take little comfort from it.

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