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Leytonstone Underground 'terror attacker'? No mentally ill.

 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 6:56 pm    Post subject: Leytonstone Underground 'terror attacker'? No mentally ill. Reply with quote

How can a victim of the government's mental health cuts top national news?
When they're another 'terrorist'.


Knife attacker slashes man in London 'terrorist incident'
LONDON | BY JAMES DAVEY AND WILLIAM JAMES
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-stabbing-idUSKBN0TO0RA201512 06
A knife attacker slashed a man at an east London metro station, reportedly screaming "This is for Syria!", in what police described as a terrorist incident, prompting a senior minister to urge Britons on Sunday not to be intimidated.
Police said the man, believed to be aged 29, had also threatened other bystanders. One man, thought to be 56 years old, suffered serious but not life-threatening injuries and was in a stable condition at a London hospital. A second victim suffered minor injuries.
"I am treating this as a terrorist incident," Richard Walton, who leads the Counter Terrorism Command at London's Metropolitan Police, said in a statement. The man was arrested after police used a Taser to subdue him.
Detectives were searching a residential address in east London and additional officers were being deployed to the rail transport network, police said.
An eyewitness quoted by the Guardian and other British newspapers said the attacker appeared to claim that he was retaliating for Western air strikes on Islamist militants in Syria, shouting: "This is what happens when you f*** with mother Syria, all of your blood will be spilled!"
Police declined to comment on those reports and it was not immediately possible to verify them independently.
British war planes joined the strikes for the first time on Thursday, a few hours after Prime Minister David Cameron won parliamentary approval to bomb the Islamic State militant group in Syria after it claimed responsibility for attacks on Paris last month that killed 130 people.
In an interview with the Sunday Times, Syrian President Bashar al-Assad mocked Cameron's strategy, saying it would make the situation worse, not better.
Britain is on its second-highest security alert level of "severe", meaning a militant attack is considered highly likely, though not imminent, mainly because of the threat posed by Islamic State militants in Syria and Iraq.
Secretary of State for Work and Pensions Iain Duncan Smith said that, whatever the circumstances, Britons must not let the Leytonstone incident affect their behavior.
"We cannot let these sort of people, terrorists et cetera, actually dominate our space," he told the BBC. "The way we defeat them at the end of the day is with our values, our freedom of expression, our freedom of belief ... our ability to take our children, our families out at Christmas. None of that must be curtailed."
We're trying desperately here = Nevertheless, the attack will draw parallels with the May 2013 murder of British army soldier Lee Rigby, who was hacked to death in east London by two Muslim converts.
Cameron has said air strikes will not increase the chance of an attack on Britain, since militants already view it as a top target, with seven plots foiled over the past year.
Britain's worst Islamist militant attack was in July 2005, when 52 people were killed by suicide bombs on underground trains and a bus.
Islamic State said on Saturday that the married couple who killed 14 people in a mass shooting in California were its followers.
Read more at Reuters http://www.reuters.com/article/us-britain-stabbing-idUSKBN0TO0RA201512 06#LF9faYGRmTSPgtJW.99

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
"Terror Attacker" or nut job


or both

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy who took him on described him as "crazy"
David Pethers, 33, was cut as he tried to approach the “crazy” assailant who had just stabbed another man and left him in a pool of blood.

That fits then Smile

He'd have to be crazy to attack people at random in pursuit of his political goals.
But real terrorists don't do that.
Do they?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 1:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real witness or political opportunist?

https://www.facebook.com/marvin.r.williams.1/posts/10156219942570307

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I have to say that I find the multiple media reports of a TERROR ATTACK, and "terrorist incident" in Leytonstone, to shockingly epitomise the ineptitude and duplicity of the mainstream media working hand in glove with the Police.
I've read articles stating that 'Detectives from the Met's Counter-Terrorism Command are now investigating the incident', that 'This is the first terrorist attack on British soil since the murder of fusilier Lee Rigby', and that the head of Counter Terrorism is treating this as a terrorist incident'. Simply put, in my opinion, they are falsely attempting to promote the narrative of a Muslim enemy within our borders.
I was at Leytonstone station yesterday, and saw the man that the media and police are linking to ISIS, and claiming to be a radicalised Muslim. He was following a Muslim guy around outside the station, who was running backwards around the 'Time Terminus' sculpture. They circled the sculpture around 4 times before the attacker walked into the tube station followed by the man filming him. For the record, he did not have a machete, as some news outlets have reported.
Will some people be appalled that we're yet again murdering innocent civilians? yes! Will some of those people have mental health problems? Of course! But what makes this a terror/terrorist attack as opposed to another stabbing? Because he supposedly mentioned Syria? I saw him chasing a Muslim man, so how does that fall in line with his terrorist objectives? If he was white and mentioned Syria, would it be a terrorist attack? Or just another stabbing? Why does our Government run media never say 'Neglected mental patient attacks man'? Because from what I saw, I'm very confident that the police and media ALREADY know that he was mentally unstable.
Does anyone remember the headlines 'Horror as Muslim convert beheads woman in garden'. All the newspapers and TV news channels spoke of the so called Muslim terror attacker who beheaded an elderly woman. This was only a few miles away from yesterday's incident, and this year, he was cleared of murder on the grounds of insanity, diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia, and detained indefinitely in a psychiatric hospital. This, however, did NOT make inflammatory front page news. Why? Because it didn't fit the mainstream media, anti muslim rhetoric and narrative designed to create fear and anger.
Our Government are massively reducing expenditure on mental health programmes, mental illness prevention, suicide prevention, educational psychologists, social work teams, school mental health services etc. We send people with mental health illnesses 100's of miles from their homes, because of a chronic shortage of beds leaving them without support, Mental Health Act detentions are rapidly increasing, just like our war budget, all while Government mental health funding is rapidly decreasing.
The question we SHOULD be asking, is WHY was the House of Commons empty a few days ago when discussing mental health, but FULL to capacity when discussing and voting on war? The British people are being killed and maimed by victims of neglect, suffering from severe mental health problems, but it is always swept under the carpet, or used for a sensationalist media agenda. In any case, we can all watch this story unfold, and once the media hype has subsided, analyse the facts as they emerge.


How can he be a lone nut if there is a witness saying there was a cameraman/friend outside before the attack?

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 07, 2015 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Family said on Channel 4 news tonight he had been hearing 'demonic voices' in the last few weeks and they'd begged the police to do something about his mental illness because he was violent and dangerous.
http://www.channel4.com/news/catch-up/display/playlistref/071215/clipi d/071215_4ON_LEYTONSTONEINT2_PAB_0712

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sentenced today & sent to Broadmoor
Both insane and not insane at the same time
Funny that!
Sane for the ISIS connection
Insane for the knife attack

Leytonstone Tube attack: Isil-inspired knifeman jailed for life after targeting strangers at Underground station

Police taser knife-wielding fanatic at Leytonstone Tube station
No reporter's name given
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/08/01/leytonstone-tube-attack-isi l-inspired-knifeman-jailed-for-life-a/

1 AUGUST 2016 • 1:13PM
A schizophrenic knifeman who tried to behead a musician during an Islamic State-inspired rampage at a Tube station has been sentenced to life in prison.

Somali-born Muhiddin Mire, 30, targeted strangers at random in the ticket hall at Leytonstone Underground station in east London on December 5 last year.

Leytonstone Tube knifeman filmed after cutting man's throatPlay!01:26
He grabbed fellow passenger Lyle Zimmerman and attempted to murder the 56-year-old after they travelled on the same train from Stratford to Leytonstone, where Mire lived alone in Sansom Road.

Mire will serve a minimum of eight and a half years before being considered for parole, and will start his sentence at Broadmoor secure hospital.

The moment Muhiddin Mire cut the throat of a random stranger
The moment Muhiddin Mire cut the throat of a random stranger CREDIT: CPS/PA

The whole incident was caught on shocking CCTV and mobile phone footage taken by a passer-by who bravely carried on filming even as Mire lunged at him with the rusty blade.

One onlooker shouted at him: "You ain't no Muslim, bruv", after he declared he was going to "spill blood" for his "Syrian brothers".

Muhaydin Mire appearing in court for a previous hearing
Muhaydin Mire appearing in court for a previous hearing CREDIT: ELIZABETH COOK/PA
Sentencing him at the Old Bailey, Judge Nicholas Hilliard QC, Recorder of London, said that while he accepted Mire was suffering from paranoid schizophrenia at the time of the offence, he was also of the opinion he had been motivated by events in Syria.

Leytonstone terror attack: Hero victim tells of how he 'went back to have another go'Play!00:52
He continued: "In other words, because Muslims were being bombed in Syria, he was going to attack civilians here.

"That was designed to intimidate a section of the public, and it was to advance an extreme cause."

Judge Hilliard added that Mire's "brazen" actions were carried out in order to advance a "religious and extremist cause".

"This was an attempt to to kill an innocent member of the public for ideological reasons by cutting his throat in plain sight for maximum impact," he said.

Flanked by several dock officers and wearing a blue tracksuit top, Mire stared ahead as he was sentenced.

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