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item8 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2015 5:53 am Post subject: |
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I am saying that the case for man made climate change is a hoax and that the proponents are liars. They are constantly supplying "evidence" which turns out to be false. Al Gore's infamous assertion that the glaciers on Kilimanjaro were melting due to MMCC has been proven to be false along with a number of other falsehoods in his Oscar Winning "An Inconvenient Truth". Note the use of the word "truth" in the title. It is like any country with "Democratic" in its name. It implies the opposite. In spite of a high court ruling that 12 "inaccuracies" in his movie must be highlighted to schoolchildren before they are fed the propaganda, schools continue to show the movie without pointing out the drivel within.
http://www.theresilientearth.com/?q=content/himalayan-glaciers-not-mel ting
Quote: | According to a flurry of recent reports by the BBC and other mass media, the glaciers in the Himalayan mountains are melting at a furious pace. Of course this is taken as proof that climate change is still taking place at an ever accelerating rate, despite the fact the global temperatures have remained flat for the past decade. What, then, explains the rapidly retreating Himalayan glaciers? Nothing, because the glaciers are not shrinking. A new report by a senior Indian glaciologist states that the glaciers remain frozen and quite intact, thank you.
The report by Vijay Kumar Raina, formerly of the Geological Survey of India, seeks to correct widely spread reports that India's 10,000 or so Himalayan glaciers are shrinking rapidly in response to climate change. It's not true, Raina says. The rumors may have originated in the Asia chapter of the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change's (IPCC's) 2007 Working Group II report, which claims that Himalayan glaciers “are receding faster than in any other part of the world and, if the present rate continues, the likelihood of them disappearing by the year 2035 and perhaps sooner is very high if the Earth keeps warming at the current rate.” Evidently, the bogus reporting was based on measurements from only a handful of glaciers. |
http://theresilientearth.com/?q=content/nasa-satellite-debunks-melting -glacier-myth
Quote: | The story of melting glaciers has been told ad nauseam by climate catastrophists and the scientifically gullible news media for years. This blog has reported on the purported “rapid melting” of the Himalayan glaciers several times before (see “Himalayan Glaciers Not Melting” and “Himalayan Glacier Disappearance Overstated”). It is true that glaciers melt, they are the primary source of water in a number of regions around the world.
As I have often stated, this is an interglacial period, ice is supposed to melt. Otherwise there would still be a mile of ice on top of New York City. But despite evidence to the contrary, warmists continue to claim that glaciers are disappearing at an alarming rate. According to an accompanying News & Views article appearing in the same issue by Jonathan Bamber, from the Bristol Glaciology Centre: |
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Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Are the diagrams and graphs in the following link 'false'?
Geoengineering, Record Low Arctic Ice And Catastrophic Drought, What’s The Connection?: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/geoengineering-record-low-arctic-ic e-and-catastrophic-drought-whats-the-connection/?
This ridiculous situation, best seen in the diagrams on the link, is caused by Chemtrails and HAARP (or it's new, unknown version).
The state of the baking West and freezing East is IMPOSSIBLE without big-time jet-stream manipulation. Wakey, wakey! Do you need pictures? Look at the diagrams.
And it might be worth checking USAF document 'Owning the weather by 2025' - they seem to be way ahead of schedule. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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item8 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-32639813
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8 May 2015
From the section Australia
A top Australian government business adviser has said climate change is a hoax by the United Nations.
Most climate models were wrong and there was little evidence of climate change, said Maurice Newman.
He said the UN had used climate change as a "hook" to establish and control a new world order.
Mr Newman's comments were rejected by climate scientists, while Environment Minister Greg Hunt said it was "not something I would express".
Asked at a press conference what he thought of Mr Newman's comments, Mr Hunt said individuals were "entitled to their views".
On a per capita basis, Australia is one of the world's biggest emitters of greenhouse gases.
Coalition governments in Australia have a history of climate change scepticism. One of the current government's first actions when it won power in 2013 was to dump the previous Labor government's tax on carbon emissions because of the cost to industry.
The UN says there is a strong scientific consensus that the global climate is changing and that human activity contributes significantly to this trend.
Political agenda
Mr Newman chairs Prime Minister Tony Abbott's Business Advisory Council and is a former chairperson of the Australian Stock Exchange.
He wrote in an opinion article for The Australian newspaper on Friday: "It's a well-kept secret, but 95% of the climate models we are told prove the link between human CO2 emissions and catastrophic global warming have been found, after nearly two decades of temperature stasis, to be in error."
Mr Newman said the public had been "subjected to extravagance from climate catastrophists for close to 50 years", and swallowed "dud predictions" from weather bureaus who presented "homogenised" data to suit narratives.
He also said the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which reviews and assesses scientific work relevant to climate change for the UN, had been exposed "repeatedly for misrepresentation and shoddy methods".
The UN, he said, was spending hundreds of billions of dollars a year on "futile climate change policies".
"The real agenda is concentrated political authority," he said. "Global warming is the hook."
Mr Newman, who is also a former chairman of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, said the executive secretary of the UN's Framework on Climate Change, Christiana Figueres, was using climate change to oppose capitalism.
"This is not about facts or logic. It's about a new world order under the control of the UN. It is opposed to capitalism and freedom and has made environmental catastrophism a household topic to achieve its objective."
Ms Figueres was in Australia this week and addressed a climate summit in Melbourne on Wednesday.
Climate change expert Professor David Karoly from the University of Melbourne, said Mr Newman's comments did not represent any peer reviewed study or assessment of climate change.
"It is clear he has deliberately tried to mislead the Australian public," said Professor Karoly, who is considering making a complaint to the Australian Press Council about the article.
He said the government's decision to appoint Mr Newman to its business advisory council was akin to Qantas having a chairman that believed the earth was flat. |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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Groan!!! Why on earth don't people get it?
'Engineering “1000 Year” Weather Catastrophes, The Reality Of Weather Warfare': http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/engineering-1000-year-weather-catas trophes-the-reality-of-weather-warfare/?
'A "1000 year" flood has just occurred on the East Coast and a "1200 year" drought continues to worsen rapidly on the West Coast. In fact record shattering floods and droughts are rapidly accelerating all around the globe. "Official sources", of course, tell the American public that unprecedented weather events are just "natural" and the vast majority unfortunately accept this lie without so much as a second thought. Though countless anthropogenic (human) activities have done immense damage to the climate system, the ongoing global climate engineering (weather warfare) insanity is the greatest single disrupting factor of all. "100 year" disasters are now occurring every 100 days or less. .....'
But gee, folks, it's nothing to be alarmed about! Go out and shop (brain transplants are getting cheaper all the time)! _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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DEEEEEP
About the melting of the ice caps and why this wasn't leading to a rise in sea level.
Firstly, let me say that I am also hugely suspicious of the theory of anthropogenic global warming and this whole claim about melting glaciers and rising sea levels - here again half the data doesn't fit the theory - but that's a side issue. The author here seems to believe that if the ice caps melt then the sea levels should automatically rise as a consequence but this is simplistic. In fact, if all of the ice sheet at the North Pole melted the sea level wouldn't rise at all - this is because of Archmedes Principle and I won't bore you with the details but you can test it for yourself - place some ice cubes in a glass of water and mark the level then leave them to melt. So it is only melting of ice on land that could cause a sea level rise - that's basically the ice-sheet on Greenland and on Antarctica. The Greenland sheet has melted a little I think but the Antarctic is perhaps even getting larger (and certainly not melting) - I have a physicist friend you knows the facts on this better than me. Anyway, the reason sea levels haven't risen is simply because there is no reason for them to - problem resolved and no need for any bizarre hypothesis about "inertia" or whatever. Incidentally, when people talk about this they never consider (in public at least - I'm sure the scientists do) the effects of 'the unusual expansion of water' - that when water close to zero degrees is warmed it actually contracts first before expanding (very odd) which must surely have a counterbalancing effect on the relationship between global warming and sea level rise. _________________ www.lawyerscommitteefor9-11inquiry.org
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Thomas Tol Minor Poster
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Posted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 4:38 pm Post subject: |
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We live in the coldest period of the last 10.000 years" , says
glasiologist, Jørgen Peder Steffensen who take us back in time to the Grenland icecores and reveals the secrets from the past.
https://vimeo.com/14366077[img][/img] |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Thomas Tol wrote: | We live in the coldest period of the last 10.000 years" , says
glasiologist, Jørgen Peder Steffensen who take us back in time to the Grenland icecores and reveals the secrets from the past.
https://vimeo.com/14366077[img][/img] |
Yeh, sure we do!!
''NOAA Issues 'Jaw-Dropping' Assessment on 'Unprecedented' Arctic Warming':
http://www.commondreams.org/news/2016/12/14/noaa-issues-jaw-dropping-a ssessment-unprecedented-arctic-warming
'...The report's main findings, as noted by NOAA:
Warmer air temperature: Average annual air temperature over land areas was the highest in the observational record, representing a 6.3 degree Fahrenheit (3.5 degree Celsius) increase since 1900. Arctic temperatures continue to increase at double the rate of the global temperature increase.
Record low snow cover: Spring snow cover set a record low in the North American Arctic, where the May snow cover extent fell below 1.5 million square miles (4 million square kilometers) for the first time since satellite observations began in 1967.
Smaller Greenland ice sheet: The Greenland ice sheet continued to lose mass in 2016, as it has since 2002 when satellite-based measurement began. The start of melting on the Greenland ice sheet was the second earliest in the 37-year record of observations, close to the record set in 2012.
Record low sea ice: The Arctic sea ice minimum extent from mid-October 2016 to late November 2016 was the lowest since the satellite record began in 1979 and 28 percent less than the average for 1981-2010 in October. Arctic ice is thinning, with multi-year ice now comprising 22 percent of the ice cover as compared to 78 percent for the more fragile first-year ice. By comparison, multi-year ice made up 45 percent of ice cover in 1985.
Above-average Arctic Ocean temperature: Sea surface temperature in August 2016 was 9 degrees Fahrenheit (5 degrees Celsius) above the average for 1982-2010 in the Barents and Chukchi seas and off the east and west coasts of Greenland.
Arctic Ocean productivity: Springtime melting and retreating sea ice allowed for more sunlight to reach the upper layers of the ocean, stimulating widespread blooms of algae and other tiny marine plants which form the base of the marine food chain, another sign of the rapid changes occurring in a warming Arctic......' _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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item8 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Quote: | 'NOAA Issues 'Jaw-Dropping' Assessment on 'Unprecedented' Arctic Warming': |
Well then it must be true!!!
I take it all back. Jimmy Saville was a saint who did so much for charity. The Arabs did 9/11. Saddam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction. Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy. The authorities said so therefore it must be true. They would never lie!!! Thank you for the revelation. I feel reborn. |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Fri Dec 16, 2016 4:08 am Post subject: |
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item8 wrote: | Quote: | 'NOAA Issues 'Jaw-Dropping' Assessment on 'Unprecedented' Arctic Warming': |
Well then it must be true!!!
I take it all back. Jimmy Saville was a saint who did so much for charity. The Arabs did 9/11. Saddam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction. Lee Harvey Oswald killed Kennedy. The authorities said so therefore it must be true. They would never lie!!! Thank you for the revelation. I feel reborn. |
I typed a long reply, then when I hit the 'submit' button, I lost the message. My computer is playing up something rotten.
Anyhow, I blame Stratospheric Aerosl Spraying for the loss of Arctic ice (see Geoengineering watch: http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/category/breaking-news/
Maybe you don't believe in 'Chemtrails', but there are satelite phootos and heat maps showing how the Geoengineers have shifted the Jet Stream.
They want to clear Arctic ice so they can easily exploit the minerals under the ice cap. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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cogbias Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Climate change is massive. It is part an audit, the Carbon Disclosure Project.
It's got $2-3trillion riding on it just now and it is expected to become a $10trillion dollar industry.
Interestingly, what is to be done with carbon is also to be done with water, so yes it is a big one. i.e. popularizing the need for corporate disclosure.
Search "carbon disclosure project" over on wikileaks and you'll find out who the players are, what pension funds are being gambled etc.
Whenever pension funds are involved it then becomes too big to fail. |
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cogbias Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Think you'll find ecowatch are on the payroll, Outsider. Robert Kennedy is on the board. A litigation lawyer?
It is fairly simple to get your head around. The land mass needed for renewables sits at 65%.
For nuclear it is 100%.
What are we getting in the UK? Nuclear, who is driving climate change, the UK. The US just woke up to how much cash they could make from policing the world's climate, even though they are largely responsible for it's demise.
Do you see the contradiction?
BTW that photograph seems to go back to 2009.
Ecowatch is really the Sierra Club. Thanks for the heads up on Ecowatch BTW.
You never seem to post links; regarduing my post, do you think the photos are fake?
I am aware there are genuine diffferences in the Truth community re 'Global Warming'.
That it's happening is incontorvertible; WHY is up for debate. |
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 12:57 am Post subject: |
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cogbias wrote: | Think you'll find ecowatch are on the payroll, Outsider. Robert Kennedy is on the board. A litigation lawyer?
It is fairly simple to get your head around. The land mass needed for renewables sits at 65%.
For nuclear it is 100%.
What are we getting in the UK? Nuclear, who is driving climate change, the UK. The US just woke up to how much cash they could make from policing the world's climate, even though they are largely responsible for it's demise.
Do you see the contradiction?
BTW that photograph seems to go back to 2009.
Ecowatch is really the Sierra Club. Thanks for the heads up on Ecowatch BTW.
You never seem to post links; regarduing my post, do you think the photos are fake?
I am aware there are genuine diffferences in the Truth community re 'Global Warming'.
That it's happening is incontorvertible; WHY is up for debate. |
_________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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item8 Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Posted: Mon Dec 19, 2016 2:07 am Post subject: |
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Quote: | That it's happening is incontorvertible; WHY is up for debate. |
Global warming is the most controvertible subject in existence. Science is NEVER settled and consensus is NOT universal. You may as well say that the Earth is flat so WHY is it up for debate. The Earth has been cooling for over a decade and it is a normal cycle just as the warming period was a normal recurring cycle. The orbit of the Earth and the sun spot activity are the real causes of the extremes of climate change. Mankind's activities are barely able to register any effect on the Earth's climate. MMCC is a hoax by the Globalists to create a need for a global government. There are so many instances of false data being published by the powers that be and so many easily refuted claims about mmcc it is incredible that anyone able to realise we are being lied to about 9/11 can be fooled by this obvious scam. |
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Industrial waste and pollution exist as does over exploitation of resources some of which are renewable such as fishing and forestry and some of which are finite such as coal. To ignore the real problems and tax the world for non existent, invented problems like mmcc is the reason we are heading for a disaster as real problems are left unaddressed and hoaxes like mmcc get attention and enrich criminals who push it. Wake up for God's sake. |
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item8 wrote: | Industrial waste and pollution exist as does over exploitation of resources some of which are renewable such as fishing and forestry and some of which are finite such as coal. To ignore the real problems and tax the world for non existent, invented problems like mmcc is the reason we are heading for a disaster as real problems are left unaddressed and hoaxes like mmcc get attention and enrich criminals who push it. Wake up for God's sake. |
Read through these; do you agree or not that massive climate changes are being artificially created by mainly US atmospheric aerosol spraying of )highly toxic) materials like aluminium, barium and strontium, as well as fly ash and other substances?
'Climate Engineering Chemical Cool-Down Continues':
http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/climate-engineering-chemical-cool-d own-continues/
'.....Why does mainstream media exclusively cover the cool zones (with enthusiastic theater-like portrayals) while at the same time completely ignoring temperatures in the Arctic that have recently been almost 60 degrees ABOVE NORMAL?........'
'The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Destruction: “Owning the Weather” for Military Use':
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-ultimate-weapon-of-mass-destruction-o wning-the-weather-for-military-use-2/5306386
'Weather as a Force Multiplier: Owning The Weather In 2025':
http://csat.au.af.mil/2025/volume3/vol3ch15.pdf
Whatever the 'long-term' climate cycle is, we are dealing here with MASSIVE catastrophic changes in a very short time.
Just as the PTB can poison irrevocably water aquifers with Fracking, or massively pollute coountries (and to a lesser extent, the whole world) with Depleted Uranium and accidental/deliberate Nuclear Plant meltdowns, so they are poisoning the planet with aluminium and other products sprayed in huge quantities in the Statosphere.
And altering the weather, by means of altering the path of the Jet Streams. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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cogbias Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
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Chemtrails might just simply be a quick way to get rid of expensive waste by-products.
Globalresearch isn't a site i've been on, but i will have a look and see.
Thanks.
:edit sorry yeah i think it is possible Chemtrails are to fudge the data. |
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cogbias wrote: | Chemtrails might just simply be a quick way to get rid of expensive waste by-products.
Globalresearch isn't a site i've been on, but i will have a look and see.
Thanks.
:edit sorry yeah i think it is possible Chemtrails are to fudge the data. |
'Chemtrails might just simply be a quick way to get rid of expensive waste by-products.....'
You mustr be joking - outfitting fleets of expensive tanker planes, some purpose-built, to spray products into the Stratosphere? And nano-aluminium is not a waste product!
Fly ash, which is a waste product, can be stored much more cheaply, and safely, in special landfills.
Global Research is a very good website, dealing with 9/11, 'False Flags', Syria, everything this website comments on, and is frequently linked to on these threads. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Commercial flights are a small part of it; the main spraying is done from purpose-built spraying aircraft or converted refueler tankers.
Things to look for are lines and lines of parallel lines/thin cloud formations, best seen at certain times in the morning and before sunset, when they can sometimes be seen (I have counted up to 28, and I'm sure there were more, but the sun needs to be at the correct angle to highlight them), and also single tracks which show the aircraft has done an aproximate 120* turn, sometimes even close to 90*. Commercial flights don't do this; they either make a bee-line along a planned course, or circle whilst being held in a holding pattern whilst preparing to land.
I doubt if flights between Prestwick and Glasgow, being a short distance, fly high enough to spray, as this is normally done at 30,000+ feet.
Thing is, once you start looking, you start to notice things which don't make sense. You WILL get a load of harmful stuff out of planes flying low near airports, but planes start to descend from a good distance away, and don't spray at lower altitudes (except on special missions).
Here is a good proof (to me, anyway) that Chemtrail spraying is going on:
'Chemtrail Whistleblower ~ Ex Military ~ Kristen Meghan, Hauppauge, NY, January 18th, 2014 HD':
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyQHbWfwr8o _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Quote: | do you agree or not that massive climate changes are being artificially created by mainly US atmospheric aerosol spraying of )highly toxic) materials like aluminium, barium and strontium, as well as fly ash and other substances? |
No I do not. It is supposed to be mankind's use of fossil fuels which is causing the "Greenhouse effect" hence carbon taxes. Mankind's use of such fuels is having just about zero effect on the climate and indeed may be beneficial in a miniscule way by increasing CO2 which is at an historically low level and higher levels equate with a more verdant planet. CO2 is pumped into greenhouses to increase yield of fruit etc as it is a plant food. If criminals are manipulating the atmosphere to evil ends that is another matter but they are not causing a catastrophic climate change. Man made climate change is a hoax. |
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item8 wrote: | Quote: | do you agree or not that massive climate changes are being artificially created by mainly US atmospheric aerosol spraying of )highly toxic) materials like aluminium, barium and strontium, as well as fly ash and other substances? |
No I do not. It is supposed to be mankind's use of fossil fuels which is causing the "Greenhouse effect" hence carbon taxes. Mankind's use of such fuels is having just about zero effect on the climate and indeed may be beneficial in a miniscule way by increasing CO2 which is at an historically low level and higher levels equate with a more verdant planet. CO2 is pumped into greenhouses to increase yield of fruit etc as it is a plant food. If criminals are manipulating the atmosphere to evil ends that is another matter but they are not causing a catastrophic climate change. Man made climate change is a hoax. |
Hmmmn, and aluminium causes crop and tree death (but Monsanto have the cure for that- surptise,surprise!).
You SEEMED to have missed my point.
Do you, or do you not, believe the PTB are spraying this nonsense, and using HAARP-type technology to f*ck with the Jet Stream etc.?
Fes up: this has to do with 'Full Spectrum Dominance'; I was going further, but I'll wait for a response. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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Quote: | Do you, or do you not, believe the PTB are spraying this nonsense, and using HAARP-type technology to f*ck with the Jet Stream etc.? |
I do not know everything what the ptb are doing. I am not privvy to their agenda or to the details of their evil doing. It may be the case that they are manipulating sunshine or bending moonrays - I will leave those speculations to those who wish to investigate them. I prefer to concentrate on their blatant and REAL actions which are messing up our economies with their taxes and laws affecting our lives with the mmcc hoax which they are actually implementing. |
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Yep! That just about sums up this effing drivel. I am getting so angry at the insulting patronising cack that these people push while * up my environment with wind farms and taxes and relentless * about how it is all my fault that the world is being destroyed. THEY are doing it with wars and lies and violence and deceit. FFS Wake up!! |
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outsider Trustworthy Freedom Fighter
Joined: 30 Jul 2006 Posts: 6060 Location: East London
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I addressed this message to Dane Wiggington, of Geoengineering Watch, but it is important for all who realise that we ARE being intentionally sprayed from planes with highly toxic materials which harm us, animals, plants and trees, as well as causing havoc with our weather and climate.
Pilots For 9/11 Truth are fundraising to hire a plane to get stratosheric samples to prove/disprove Atmospheric Aerosol Spraying: 'PILOTS FOR TRUTH - ATMOSPHERIC RESEARCH FUNDRAISER' http://pilotsfor911truth.org/arcc-project.html
It seems to me it would be a good idea to advertise their Fundraiser, as this could really clinch the issue. Personally I have no doubt whatsoever that we are being sprayed with highly toxic substances. You already have the results of ground-level testing (rain, snow, soil, water etc., but this would be a huge boost to the campaign to expose it. _________________ 'And he (the devil) said to him: To thee will I give all this power, and the glory of them; for to me they are delivered, and to whom I will, I give them'. Luke IV 5-7. |
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