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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 4:03 pm    Post subject: AIDS : fact or fiction? Reply with quote

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3983706668483511310&hl=en

this is an interesting one. It's worth 2hrs10mins.

It will make you re evaluate your attitudes to Aids

possibly this - ed.
The Greatest Medical Fraud in History - The Pain, Profit and Politics of AIDS

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT3b_0doyRk

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http://www.i-sis.org.uk/unravelingAIDS.php
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

By coincidence this just arrived in my inbox. Can't vouch for all the links but they may be of interest

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"AIDS research has not failed because it never found a cure.......AIDS research has failed because it never found a cause"

24 years and no cure, no cause, no answers. But billions of tax dollars to an established AID$ industry who refuse to look at the facts. More money has been spent on AIDS research than any other disease in the history of medicine, all with no results! Giving a weakened or compromised immune system a name, "AIDS", is trickery. Telling us it is caused by an old and harmless retrovirus is dishonest. But treating immunodeficiency, whatever is causing it, with toxic chemo ARV drugs, that destroy DNA and bone marrow, is criminal! It's time to get mad and get the word out and demand a reappraisal. Or accountability for the terror, stress, damage and destruction to many lives.

FACTS:
1. HIv has never been isolated as a pure virus, direct from human blood or tissue nor have control groups been used who are HIv "positive" and HIv "negative". One must understand that HIv is a harmless passenger retrovirus, not a disease causing virus like HPV or HSV. (see 3 and 8.)

2. Isolation experiments, as recommended by the Perth Group and others, in the Presidential AIDS Advisory Panel Report of 2000, have never been done on control groups both with or without HIv. This is especially important since it is well known that thousands who test positive for antibodies for HIv remain healthy and thousands who have "AIDS" (by CDC definition) are not infected with HIv.

3. Kochs Postulates is and has been the widely accepted, time tested screen for determining whether an infectious germ or virus is causing disease. HIv fails all 4 (or 3 depending how you consider #4), of the postulates. A large effort must be undertaken to produce HIv in any quantities that are similar to disease causing virus. This is done by co-culturing HIv with leukemia cells in the lab (petri dish) or by adding growth stimulants. (See point 7 under "AIDS - Fact or Fraud".)

4. HIv was first studied/discovered by Luc Montagnier as LAV around 1979. Montagnier admitted in 1990 that his LAV was probably benign. Robert Gallo stole Luc Montagniers work in approx. 1983 when Montagnier shared it with him. Gallo then claimed it as his own. He and the NIH were sued by the French government. Montagnier worked for the Pasteur Institute of Science. He also shared in the royalties. (see 13) Luc Montagniers LAV stood for Lymphademopathy Associated Virus. Part of the Pasteur Inst. charges in the initial lawsuit against Gallo were for Gallos claim that HIv was infectious. Regardless virus as causation of any kind of cancer, including lymphoma, is long proved false in the 70's "Cancer Virus Program" through the Natl. Inst. of Cancer which is part of the NIH.

5. AIDS is nothing more than an acronym created by the CDC to create the categories of known diseases hypothesized as being "caused" by HIv. Suppression of the immune system however is not a disease and is caused by many things, which has led to much (purposeful?) confusion of the public. With a "positive" HIv antibodies test,(see 11,) or low T-cell count, or if in a risk group, and if showing symptoms of any one of 29 AIDS diseases as classified by CDC, any observation of those symptoms (see 19 for Africa) are now "AIDS-HIv" related and somehow deadly when most are not, all have other known causation and can be treated without antiretroviral drugs. All of this convoluted testing and categorizing adds to the numbers of HIv "positives" and then "AIDS" patient cases. Useful data for keeping the ARV drugs on the front line of treatment even though they are useless having been designed for cancer tumor therapy, and thus very harmful.

6. AZT, an ARV(antiretroviral), and other AIDS cocktails like HAART, are very toxic chemo CANCER drugs and destroy cells and terminate DNA chains. The initial trials of AZT based drugs showed wide evidence of harsh side affects, i.e. muscle wasting, organ failure, vomiting, diarrhea, destruction of bone marrow, yet FDA approved them on a fast track mandate in 1987. Many involved in the trials say these side effects were hidden. When AZT was created in 1964 it was deemed too toxic for use and was shelved. It is no "theory" that these drugs cause the very kinds of immune system destruction and breakdown that is deceitfully blamed on HIv. Admitted by the drug manufacturers themselves in their printed warnings. Why was this drug even thought to be useful for a "virus" when chemo therapy had never been used for virus treatment?

7. People who refuse AZT or the chemo drug cocktails after a "positive" HIv antibody test, remain healthy in most cases. (see risk groups #1Cool AIDS activists and counselors who are unaware of what HIv actually is, consistently fail to inform the "at risk" population that often call or visit them, that the HIv test is not a test for the virus. Or that the tests have disclaimers that say: "there is no recognized standard for establishing the presence or absence of antibodies to HIV-1 or HIV-2 in human blood". And the viral load tests have the same disclaimers for what they are testing for. Besides, there is no proof of different specific HIv-1 or HIv-2 because HIv is a benign indistinguishable retrovirus.

8. The PCR (polymerase chain reaction) test is a desperate misleading attempt to detect DNA-RNA fragments of HIv retrovirus, in order to prove it is causing disease. Its inventor, Kary Mullis, rejects HIv as the cause of AIDS or anything else and says his test only amplifies and copies these fragments for study. No real disease causing cytotoxic virus needs this kind of help in it's detection and purification.

9. HIv is non-cytotoxic.Therefore HIv cannot destroy the cells it infects. Nor can any retrovirus. In fact HIv is well known to virologists to be compatible with T-cells. Or most cells for that matter. This and transcriptease (the ability of retrovirus to insert themselves into cells RNA first, the reverse of cytotoxic virus) is the reason for their specific classification as retroviruses.

10. Real disease causing viruses can be vaccinated against in 95% of cases. But viruses are not always the cause of disease. As often in the case of scurvy, pellagra and weak immune system, it is a dietary and lack of proper exercise or nutrient problem/issue. The case of SMON in Japan was a similar search for a "virus" causation when finally the culprit was found to be a toxin. A toxin in the very drug that doctors were prescribing to SMON patients. This is what happens when "virus hunters" get carried away and take over research for professional recognition and monetary reasons. Or just plain stubbornness. Legionairres disease was a prime example of how the CDC/NIH missed a toxin causation completely and birthed a vaccine that did more harm than good. (Duesbergs "Inventing the AIDS Virus")

11. The Western Blot HIv test is well known to give many false positives as many antibodies already in the body or other medical conditions (up to 70) can set off the non-specific protein strips in the test. All HIv diagnostic tests carry a disclaimer that the test is NOT to be used to determine the presence or absence of HIv antibodies. Regardless, presence of antibodies to HIv would mean the immune system has done it's work and the body is protected. In reality based science anyway. In other words, it is impossible to be positive for HIv with these tests because a positive test really means you're positive for the antibodies and negative for HIv! Thus the PCR tests and viral load(T-cell counts) became the new hope to detect fragments of HIv DNA/RNA or low immune response. (see 8, 16)
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From the website www.questionaids.com


Why isn’t an antibody test that’s verified by another antibody test good enough to say someone is infected with HIV?

The rationale for the use of antibody tests is that the immune system has the ability to detect foreign agents or viruses and to respond by producing antibodies that react with those agents or viruses. However, this rationale does not work in reverse. That is, the observation of an antibody reaction with a particular agent or virus does not prove that the antibody was produced in response to that particular agent or virus.

The problem with using antibodies alone to indicate infection with a particular agent or virus is twofold:

1. Antibodies can only be associated with a disease after it is shown that they are consistently generated after exposure to the pure virus. We are unaware that this has ever been accomplished with HIV.

2. Antibodies engage in indiscriminate relationships with a variety of agents or viruses. One could say that antibodies are “promiscuous,” that is, antibodies meant for one agent or virus may react with another agent or virus that is a perfect stranger. Or, to put it technically, there is ample evidence that antibody molecules, even the most pure (monoclonal antibodies) are not mono-specific, and that they cross-react with other, non-immunizing antigens.
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12. There are different standards of HIv positive in different states and countries! Why? If it's a virus it's a virus! One standard needed. But there is no "gold" standard test. Other than Kochs Postulates for virus and microbes which the CDC and NIH refuse to acknowledge or talk about or if they do they claim that Kochs method is outdated! That's like saying the 2nd law of thermodynamics is useless.

13. Gallo/NIH received the patent on the HIv tests in the exact same week he announced the "probable" cause of AIDS in 1984. It made the NIH-CDC, Montagnier and Gallo, millions. He had no peer review and had not isolated pure HIv directly from any "infected" persons blood or tissue, at the time of announcement. He could only claim 40% of his "AIDS" patients had detectable HIv. Not anywhere close to claim HIv was infectious or the cause of AIDS by recognized science standards. But how did he determine his "AIDS" patients had HIv? By co-culturing HIv in the lab or with a growth additive. Why? Because retrovirus are weak non-cytotoxic passenger virus that do not multiply or destroy cells.

14. Gallo was involved in the Nixon "War on Cancer" program in the 70's and helped the Natl. Inst. of Cancer to pressure Congress to fund the program with great promises of success to find retrovirus or any virus as the cause of cancer. But it failed. Luckily, the emerging AIDS "epidemic" helped to find NIH/CDC and the virus hunters a new program to keep and increase their funding and a disease for Gallos HTLV-3. At a time when Reagan needed a political solution, and as gay men were demanding an answer, HIv was acceptable because it erased blame from the gay community for the disease being a "lifestyle" or behavioral disease. But early in it's announcements, the CDC claimed it was behavioral and called it GRID. Gay Related Immune Deficiency. This was a correct diagnosis as the first 5 cases were all same extreme sexual behavior, heavy drug use related causation. For the CDC, there was no money in a program for only gays. Thus heterosexuals had to be at risk as well. (see 1Cool

15. Testing people for HIv because they show "AIDS" related disease symptoms, with or without immune suppression, has become the standard line of reasoning though it is preposterous due to the falsity of the tests and absurdity of using other diseases as markers. (11) But the AIDS hysteria has swept through every corner of our medical professions, without a widely publicized critical analysis of testing procedures or reassessment allowed.

16. Low T-cell counts are misleading. A variety of illness, drug abuse, poor health/diet, colds, flu, disease are also responsible. Many athletic people have low T-cell counts and they can vary almost hourly. In people with detectable HIv (by PCR test), it has only been found to infect 1 in approx. 1000 T-cells, hardly enough to destroy immune response. Regardless monitoring the immune response is no way to detect specific disease. Laying in the sun will lower your T-cell count to under 200.
http://www.aliveandwell.org/html/viral_load_tcell/viral_load.html

17. Gallo claims his electron micrograph pictures are of an HIv virus, but nothing can be found by other virologists that resembles a true concentrated virus titer. It is now known that Gallo forged these pictures and was investigated for it by the NIH.

18. "AIDS" has stayed within it's risk groups, Gay and straight male intravenous drug users, heavy drug abusers, popper users (which causes Karposis Sarcoma), hemophiliacs, and the poor malnourished living in unsanitary conditions.... instead of spreading widely across the population as we're led to believe. It is not sexually transmittable as claimed by the CDC and NIH, but this edict spread the risk to heterosexuals. With this false claim, and Americans ignorance of virology or HIv testing, funding for research and the following prescriptions for ARV's was increased 1000 fold. HIv is an old retro-virus that has likely been with us for 100's of years. Farrs law for dating virus proves this as HIv models exactly to Farrs test. The body's DNA-RNA discards many cells and retro-virus everyday. Repeat: HIv is not sexually transmittable. It is a parinatally transmitted retrovirus.

19. AIDS related disease in South Africa was and still is occurring markedly in the overcrowded poor populations where malnutrition, common persistent parasitical diseases long vanquished from western populations, lack of health care, std's infections and unsanitary environments persist. And this is true for the new countries AIDS is supposedly invading. To make matters worse, give them toxic chemo drugs on top of their persistent diseases and already compromised immune systems, and they will die. Many die of the common regional diseases regardless due to lack of health care services, known curative drugs, and of malnutrition. For instance, researchers who have examined the supposed massive deaths reported in Tanzania, find no such evidence. (Questioning AIDs in South Africa) And the CDC has now allowed themselves to categorize many common diseases in these areas as AIDS related, WITHOUT HIv testing, due largely to the expense of the HIv tests. (see Duesberg paper below) Of course they know the the testing is a hoax regardless. As a result, AIDS cases increase lending to the deception of a pandemic. All numbers the CDC and UNAIDS uses for HIv infection and AIDS cases are false and/or completely made up estimations and projections.

20. In fact now the NIH and CDC have admitted that they do not know how HIv causes destruction to the immune system (it doesn't but the ARV drugs, immune suppressive behaviors, poverty, malnutrition do), and they are now factoring in a co-virus as a way out of their deception. A vaccine was promised in 2 years after the announcement of the "probable" cause HIv in 1984. No cure has ever been produced because no cure is needed or possible for a retro-virus (or passenger virus) that cannot cause disease. No vaccine because HIv isn't a real disease causing virus.

21. Scurvy (citric acid deficiency), Pellagra (niacin deficiency), Beriberi (thiamine deficiency) , SMON (toxin in drug treatment), Zantac,Tagamet-Ulcers (bacteria, Tagamet, Zantac useless), Clioquinol-Diarrhea (toxin in Clioquinol treatment), Influenza (virus) , DES - Synthetic hormone( caused cervical cancer and sterility)............all cases that were misdiagnosed or causations ignored by the medical/scientific profession at their specific occurrences in history to the detriment of the public. And in the cases where a drug was given and was causation, it was always to the profit of the pharmaceutical industry. In some cases the misdiagnoses, sickness and death went on for years.
http://www.aliveandwell.org/html/the_bigger_picture/thebiggerpicture.h tml

FROM THE DVD "AIDS - FACT OR FRAUD?".

Ten reasons why HIv cannot be the cause of AIDS:

"Classifying suppression or deficiency of the immune system, that long has had causation in many things, as a specific "syndrome" caused by a harmless retrovirus, is beyond comprehension and an insult to good medicine and science...unless you're up to no good. But then treating an immune deficiency with poison chemo antiretroviral drugs, that destroy same immune system (bone marrow) and terminate DNA chains is criminal and insane! AIDS is an immune issue and should be treated as such. In fact, the acronym AIDS should be thrown away and banished from our vocabulary."

1. HIv, like other viruses is harmless after antibody immunity. There is no known disease or virus that has re-emerged after a mature, healthy immune system created antibodies to it.(1) Testing positive for HIv means you have the antibodies and don't have HIv. Unfortunately many different antigens are documented to set off the protein strips in the HIv tests which makes it difficult to lend any credibility to the tests. Thus the PCR test was invented.

2. HIv does not kill the T-cells it infects. In fact T-cells are compatible with HIv. Virologists know this for a fact. Abbot Labs used T-cells to grow HIv to make the protein strips for the Western Blot test.

3. HIv does not infect enough T-cells to cause AIDS. T-cells reproduce at the rate of 5% a day. HIv, after being destroyed mostly by antibodies produced, can only infect 1 in every 500 to one thousand T-cells. There is no virus in AIDS patients, only antibodies against virus. Gallo could never find any cytotoxic virus in T-cells.

4. HIv has no AIDS causing gene. HIv is no different in gene make up than other retrovirus. There are many retroviruses in the body all the time. If HIv can cause destruction of the immune system ( thus AIDS) then why don't the other retrovirus? Or if the other retroviruses don't cause AIDS, why does HIv? There is no genetic reason to explain why HIv causes AIDS.

5. There is no such thing as a slow virus. Gallo and Gajdusek gave HIv magical properties. Real virus cause specific disease and do so within days or a few weeks at most. (1) Herpes is not the exception as viremially it reproduces exponentially when active and passes Kochs Postulates. HIv does not. (Page 74 Duesbergs book IAV) And Herpes when first transmitted almost immediately shows its trademark sores. Gajdusek (NIH) had a history of claiming slow and dormant virus, but never in humans. Always in the lab. Also in his early work he gave retroviruses the ability to create more than one disease. All by correlation but never through proof. In fact he and Gallo and a few other retrovirologists seemed to always discover a retrovirus in the lab, then went looking for a disease.

6. HIv is not a new virus so HIv would not suddenly cause a new epidemic. New epidemics explode across populations. HIv has remained constant in populations and has been infecting every generation likely for centuries without causing AIDS. Farrs law is used for dating virus or microbe age and HIv models exactly to Farrs law. HIv then, is not sexually transmittable nor an epidemic. It is parinatally passed.

7. HIv fails all 4 Kochs postulates. A real disease causing virus or microbe must pass every one. The postulates are:1.) A virus or bacteria must be found in all cases of the disease, actively growing in large amounts call virus titer. HIv FAILS. 2.) Virus or germ must be isolated from the host and grown in pure culture. HIv FAILS HIv has only been grown substantially in the lab using a co-culture of leukemia cells and stimulated with chemicals, never directly from an HIv infected person in large quantities. 3.) The virus or bacteria must cause the same disease when injected into a new healthy host. HIv FAILS. 4.) The virus or bacteria must be isolated and found growing again in large amounts in the newly diseased host. HIv FAILS (failing 3 it cannot pass 4.)

8. AIDS has remained in its original risk groups for over 23 years. 97% AIDS patients made up of same risk groups. 3% risk group isn't growing.

9. The CDC, WHO international profile of AIDS is inconsistent. U.S. and Europe = 90% male. Africa = 50/50 male female. U.S. and Europe fall 97% into risk groups. Africa = no risk groups.(the official UNAIDS line) The truth is the poor, malnourished living in crowded slums and shanty towns with no sanitation or clean water, or access to health care and continually fighting old parasitical diseases, are the most susceptible to immune deficiency disease, not HIv. They are the risk groups in poor overcrowded areas of developing countries. And CDC and UNAIDS have categorized all the old African diseases now as AIDS, whether HIv infection is present of not.

10. AIDS related disease occurs without HIv infection, and, most people with HIv antibodies, never develop AIDS related disease. What we see in this statement is evidence of no retrovirus in the first case or of a harmless retrovirus in the second case, that does nothing and has been cleared by immune response. Of course what is evident is that no one has HIv who has the antibodies present. If we can even verify that these antibodies are or have reacted to HIv proteins!!! And if it takes a polymerase chain reaction test to confirm that we can only find fragments of the DNA/RNA of HIv, not the HIv itself, then why is anyone worried about HIv??? Because we've been terribly misled by, as Duesberg calls them, the "virus hunters".

Conclusion: HIv is not infectious nor sexually transmittable. With this information and finding of fact we should question any and all claims of disease that are supposedly caused by virus. Immediately what comes to mind are HPV, Hep B and HepC. These may be as harmless as HIv and treatment has been hyped to push people toward vaccinations that are untested and whose efficacy is not totally known.

(1) Duesberg "Inventing the AIDS Virus" page 74,75
Note: Chapter 6 "A Fabricated Epidemic" may be the most important content in the book as Duesberg dissects the HIv = AIDS scientists standard answers, claims of ignorance, obfuscation and excuses when confronted with the virological facts.

http://www.duesberg.com/papers/pddrgenetica.html - 10 points from Duesberg.
http://www.duesberg.com/subject/africa2.html - AIDS in Africa. New epidemic or old under new names?


WEBSITES:
http://www.aliveandwell.org/docs/FactFinderAward.pdf - Challenge from Alive and Well to prove direct isolation of HIv.
http://www.aliveandwell.org/html/award.html

FastMail.FM WARNING: URL text and host don't match, possible phishing attempt. URL disabled. Original URL='"http://www.aliveandwell.org/"'. Original text='http://www.questionaids.com'. For more information on phishing click here. - Another URL to Alive and Wells Christine Maggiore, HIv antibody positive since 92. Great HIV in the news section.

http://www.duesberg.com/ - Peter Duesberg; mapped the DNA of retro-virus. Many papers with Rasnick.
http://www.duesberg.com/papers/index.html - The Chemical Bases of Various AIDS Epidemics: Recreational Drugs, Anti-viral Chemotherapy and Malnutrition.
$bn AIDS Quiz - PowerPoint (5.2 MB) Duesbergs challenge; Is AIDS Viral or Chemical Epidemic?
http://www.duesberg.com/faq.html - FAQ

www.virusmyth.com - President Mjbeki questions the official line of HIv = AIDS and the use of AntiRetroVirals.

http://www.theperthgroup.com - Challenging the Hypothesis of HIV = AIDS

http://www.helpforhiv.com/ - Lee Evans, Olympic Gold Medalist, speaks out about the AIDS test or actually, the HIv antibody test.

http://www.rethinkingaids.com/ - MD Etienne de Haven and 1000's of medical professionals support the reappraisal the HIv = AIDS hypothesis.

http://www.healaids.com/ - Long time AIDS dissent website. Chapters across the U.S. Great links.

http://www.altheal.org - Information and critique on International AIDS policy.

http://www.notaids.com - News and views on HIv = AIDS hypothesis, health news, lawsuits, false HIv tests etc....

http://www.aras.ab.ca - Alberta Reappraising AIDS Society. Information re: ARV drug therapies and efficacy.

http://www.anotherlook.org - HIv and breastfeeding.

http://www.theAIDStrial.com - Steve Davis site related to the book he wrote.

http://www.shillfactor.net/ - How the leading AIDS proponents are connected to and invested in the drug companies.

http://www.whatisaids.com - Information and links

http://aidsmyth.addr.com/index1.htm - Good information. Good links.

http://aidsmythexposed.com - Discussion board

http://www.pharmharm.com/ - "This site is dedicated to the many lives (both HIv positives and negatives) being destroyed across the world every day by the dogma that HIV is the cause of AIDS."

http://www.robertogiraldo.com/ - Dr Roberto Giraldos site.

http://www.immunity.org.uk/ - The Immunity Resource Foundation is a registered charity offering a digitized information base on medical and scientific issues.

http://www.reviewingaids.org/awiki/index.php/Main_Page - This wiki is being developed by those with the common sense and courage to discover the truth about "AIDS".

VIDEO-DVD:
http://www.gnhealthyliving.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=151 - AIDS Inc.

http://www.aliveandwell.org/html/top_bar_pages/onlinestore.html - "The Other Side of AIDs" dvd.
Also available from this site are "Questioning AIDS in South Africa" and Guinea Pig Kids" BBC documentary.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2737583310897873953 - "The Other Side of AIDS" 20 minute trailer

http://theothersideofaids.com - The documentary website.

http://www.hiv-aids-factorfraud.com/ - Order link for "HIv = AIDS Fact or Fraud?" Watch a 20 minute trailer

http://www.gnhealthyliving.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idproduct=140 - Order link for "Deconstructing the Myth of AIDS" dvd.

http://www.gnhealthyliving.com/Scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=39 - Order link for "AIDs - A Second Opinion" dvd.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3983706668483511310 "Deconstructing the Myth of Aids" watch free.

http://www.leeevansvideo.com/ - Lee Evans on the HIv test and how CDC data shows the ARV drugs are killing "AIDS" patients.

BOOKS:

"What if Everything you Thought you Knew About AIDs Was Wrong?" - Christine Maggiore. Purchase at www.aliveandwell.org

"Inventing the AIDS Virus" - Peter Duesberg - Microbial biologist who mapped the dna of retroviruses.

http://www.duesberg.com/books/index.html - many books re: HIv hypothesis topic.

"The AIDS Cult: Essays on the Gay Health Crisis" - John Lauritsen

"The AIDS War" , "Poison by Prescription" - both books by John Lauritsen

"Wrongful Death - The AIDS Trial" - Stephen Davis

Serious Adverse Events: An Uncensored History of AIDS by Celia Farber

"Oncogenes, Aneuploidy, and AIDS: A Scientific Life and Times of Peter H. Duesberg" by Harvey Bialy

"The Origins, Persistence and Failings of the HIv=AIDS Theory" by Henry H. Bauer
http://www.failingsofhivaidstheory.homestead.com/ http://www.failingsofhivaidstheory.homestead.com/MedSeminar.pdf

"The Truth about HIV" by authors SteveRansom and Phillip Day

"Surviving AIDS and Cancer" by Noreen Martin

"Exposing AIDS" - Keidi Obi Awadu.

"Healing AIDS Naturally" - Dr. Lawrence Badgley. MD,

ARTICLES:

http://www.whatisaids.com/hivaztbigfailure.htm - AZT history of a Pharma racket and an FDA approved poison.


http://darrendixon.supanet.com/azt.htm - AZT - An AIDS defining drug. Rockefellers, Burroughs-Wellcome and AZT


http://www.immunity.org.uk/articles/celia_farber.htm - "Out of Control - AIDS and the Corruption of Medical Science"


http://www.altheal.org/texts/jl2004.htm - AIDS - A Death Cult by John Lauritsen


http://www.altheal.org/africa/mandelason.htm - Did Nelson Mandellas son really die of AIDS?


http://www.rethinkingaids.com/portals/0/documentlibrary/World%20Journa l%201995.pdf - AIDS in Africa, distinguishing fact from fiction.


http://www.rense.com/general78/hpv.htm - HPV cannot cause cancer......no retrovirus or virus can.


News - Breakthrough for 'guinea pig kids'
Guinea Pig Kids, part of the This World series on BBC Two, revealed how children as young as a few months old were being enrolled in the New York trials without proper consent. Then given dna chain terminators or anti-retro virals and other drugs.
20 Jun 2005

News - Guinea Pig Kids
Guinea Pig Kids was broadcast on Tuesday, 30th November, 2004, at 1930 GMT on BBC Two (UK).

Many, if not most of these children were taken away from mothers who had tested positive HIV but refused to put their babies on the chemo ARV drugs after seeing what these drugs did to them. The majority of infants test positive initially, then later test negative.


http://www.mothering.com/articles/growing_child/vaccines/wake.html
http://search.freefind.com/find.html?id=81178768&pageid=r&mode=ALL&n=0 &query=hiv+arv+drugs
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

just a couple of links to look at !!! Wink

so many people are involved in this scam. whether they realise or not.
This is an argument used by believers of the Bush / 911 Commision view, the fact that so many people would have to be in on it that it can't be anything else but what 'they' say happened. Wonder what they'll make of this?

this is another example of how the few can rule so many, murder so many and make so much money for them selves at the same time.

all in the name of democracy.


maybe we should all send them some organite and see what happens!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 9:17 am    Post subject: And what about the boxer Tommy Morrison too?? Reply with quote

Tommy Morrison, the former heavyweight champion of the world was banned from boxing because he was diagnosed with aids.

He has fought to be reinstated into boxing and has always maintained that he did not have Aids.

Guess what? He has had 3 independent tests and all 3 show that he has not got aids/hiv at all.

He also believes aids is a government created disease.

Im only quickly posting as im off out but please search for tommy morrison and see for yourselves. most high profile case of having aids then not having aids.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 8:22 am    Post subject: Re: And what about the boxer Tommy Morrison too?? Reply with quote

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Im only quickly posting as im off out but please search for tommy morrison and see for yourselves. most high profile case of having aids then not having aids.

Ade.


Not that I agree with the notion that AIDS isn't real or is some The Stand wannabe, but I would say that Magic Johnson is a higher profile case of having AIDS and then not than Mr. Morrison.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the loads of links to check out which I'll get round to, but on the personality fronts, it appears neither are true cases of avoiding HIV/AIDS.

I'm probably wrong here and please correct me but initial checks into Magic and Tommy Gunn, appear to show that Magic is still regarded as HIV positive but a success story in terms of triple therapy HAART drugs, whilst Tommy got a brief respite for a quick return to boxing and a shameful MMA event that was rigged in his styles favour, before being slapped as HIV and Hep C positive once again.

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Magic 10 years later
http://www.aegis.com/news/ct/2001/CT011101.html

Magic Conspiracy Theories (attempted debunking)
http://answers.google.com/answers/threadview?id=356618

Tommy

Prison term & altering HIV infection stories
http://espn.go.com/boxing/s/2000/0504/516004.html

Career to now acc to wiki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Morrison

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It was reported on June 8, 2007 by the Arizona Republic that Morrison recently tested positive for HIV, which would disprove Morrison's claims that he either never had the virus in the first place or that it had disappeared. The report was based on statements from Randy Lang, a former agent for Morrison, who says the boxer has Hepatitis C as well as being HIV positive. The argument is that if in fact Morrison tested positive for HIV 11 years ago, and there is yet to be any such cure for the blood-borne disease, then he remains HIV positive. According to Morrison's former agent, Morrison and Arizona promoter Peter McKinn were responsible for the fraudulent test results that somehow passed approval in West Virginia. After that, Morrison was refused a license in Texas and the public was told that a doctor was late filing the paperwork. In the Arizona Republic story, Morrison's fiance disparaged Lang but didn't directly deny the claim. [7]


'This of course isn't to say that both were not victims of poor HIV tests that have been shown to be widely inaccurate, despite the FDA now endorsing several makes as a possible retort to accusations of their accuracy, rather than testaments of them.

As Lee Evans, another Athlete HIV casualty explains here (already linked by Ian)
http://www.helpforhiv.com
video
http://www.helpforhiv.com/leestream.htm

Anyone got anything more recent on these guys?

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