Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Tue Jan 01, 2008 10:39 pm Post subject: Captive Minds - MK Ultra & Hypnosis
Isn't this why they want to lock people up for prolonged periods without charge? After this sort of conditioning people will sign anything, say anything.
Social Engineering, Mind Control, Hypnotism, Mesmerism.
All are here so don't listen to the voices of the hypnotists you migth end up staring at your computer screen with your mind being taken over!
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:01 pm Post subject:
ABC News 1979 Special: Mission Mind Control (29 mins)
More on this subject. CIA Training prostitutes to pick up state secrets etc. etc. etc. Lots of suprise use of LSD. An ABC News special from 1979.
Description: We can see in this ABC News Special from 1979 what the CIA has been up to, and how they've been corrupted to consider dehumanizing American citizens and the rest of the World as "normal". To learn how to weaken and control people they conducted hundreds of "Nazi'esque" experiments, no surprise since the CIA was founded by hiring thousands of Nazi's after WWII.
These included many at McGill University in Montreal, Canada, among other institutions, and "Operation Phoenix", which involved horrible acts of psychological and physical torture against the Vietnamese, and it's it's newborn Satanic baby today in the rather public sequels in Afghanistan and Iraq, and in Guantanamo and hundreds of other secret prisons. These are run by "people" who our tax-dollar pay for, and who could just as easily work "here".
Our apathetic reaction or even twisted support of these holocaust-worthy crimes is the result of the mind control experiments that have destroyed our character, and we may be ready to be "apathetic about" or "support" concentration camps domestically, as have been announced for immigrants. This also how "good" intelligence agents on the "inside" and other government employees are trained to participate in clearly illegal and immoral acts, such as NSA spying and torture, and to share the elite's disdain for the average "stupid" person who's kept confused and clueless as to how the World really works.
This video is from almost 30 years ago, and came to light when the Church Committee was investigating the CIA's hundreds of illegal activities during the Vietnam War. Just as they were gettting to some serious information, CIA Director William Colby was fired and replaced with George Bush Sr., who up until that point had no CIA experience - in public. In reality he got a cover CIA job coming out of Skull and Bones, and inexplicably to most quickly became Director to stop the Church Committee investigations by refusing the CIA's cooperation.
They have introduced a variety of illegal drugs to not only engage in mind
control experiments, but to secretly fund their covert activities - e.g. the "War on Drugs is FAKE!", as the late investigative journalism hero Gary Webb irrefutably uncovered. Our willingness to believe the hundreds of lies we're sold on a daily basis has weakened us intellectually and morally, and now we're being fed into the endless meat-grinder of history that is the endless "War on Terror". Let's wake up to HOW we've been put to sleep before we're trapped in this paranoid madness forever...
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 12:36 am Post subject:
Slimming by hypnosis
Listened to a radio interview (BBC Radio Merseyside )with a lady who under the influence of hypnosis, and virtual reality methods lost weight because she believes that she went to a hospital and had a slimming band put in her stomach. The hypnotist over 4 sessions convinced the lady she was in pre med, had injections , was on a hospital trolley in a lift, entered a clean room where hospital smells and sounds were added to aid the hypnosis. underwent surgery and came too in a recovery ward
The lady fully aware of the treatment refers to it as a slimming mind band because she thinks she has this slimming band that stops her feeling hungry.
Scary what can be done by the powers that be _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
Joined: 25 Jul 2005 Posts: 18335 Location: St. Pauls, Bristol, England
Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 10:17 pm Post subject:
Ta fish.
I bin trawling around for this 'Captive Minds, Hypnosis and Beyond' documentary which got knobbled off Google Video. Beats tonights largely zombified BBC hands down. Aha! It's sure a good-un!
Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
Posted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:36 pm Post subject:
Thanks Tony. went to a hyper charismatic so called Christian meeting (Wildfire From wales)at the invitation of my son who had been night before and said I should go. The leaders were going round laying hands on loads of people , using heavy drum beats and asking people to welcome the spirit of the trance. Ive seen some charismatic stuff before but this was as close to witchcraft in Christs name i could imagine. As i had no belief and trust in the leaders they layed hands on me (uninvited) but i fought them in my mind.
Scary to see the effect it had on others. Needless to say we shook the dust from our shoes and left _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
Joined: 01 Feb 2009 Posts: 413 Location: South Essex
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 7:33 pm Post subject:
5/99 Mind Control And Gun Control
Mind Control And Gun Control
by
Kirby Ferris
Just a week before the National Rifle Association has its annual convention in Denver, Colorado, two or more insane teenagers (just four miles south of Denver) shoot and kill 13 of their classmates with firearms and then kill themselves. This seriously challenges the law of chance. Anyone familiar with the history of so-called "gun control" in America, beginning with the "Texas Clock Tower Sniper", to Lee Oswald, to Sirhan Sirhan, to James Earl Ray, and through to Patrick Purdy (Stockton schoolyard shooter), and Colin Ferguson (Long Island railway shooter) will smell a rat.
How many of these senseless "random" incidents will it take for the American people, in their fear, naivete and ignorance, to willingly surrender their right to keep and bear arms? If you wanted to disarm the citizenry of America there is no better way than to barrage the excitable public psyche with horrendous acts such as the Colorado High School massacre. Hitler disarmed his opponents, including all Jews, also promising "public safety."
It is time for concerned Americans, whether they own guns or not, or whether they support or oppose "gun control," to seriously consider the possibility that the murderers in many, if not most, of these bloody incidents were under the mental influence of "handlers," or, to put it bluntly, mind control experts.
Before you toss me off as a conspiracy kook, I ask you to take the time to research the below listed clinical studies and scientific discussion on hypnosis. These will not meet your standard Psych. 101 assurance that "you cannot be hypnotized and forced to do anything that is against your moral fiber." Most obviously, who can say what the moral fiber of those two Denver teens actually was? Not much, we can agree on that. I'll let the scientific papers listed below make my case. You decide about how you feel about "gun control" and "victim disarmament" after you've contemplated this material. You should be able to retrieve all these papers on the Internet. Additionally, search keywords "hypnosis/coercion" and "hypnosis/antisocial behavior" for other material. Improved search engines will turn up far more than what is listed.
Brenman, M. (1942) Experiments in the hypnotic production of anti- social and self injurious behavior. Psychiatry, 5, 49-61 (note: This research is mentioned in the dialogue in the motion picture "The Manchurian Candidate". You must see it. It is a marvelous movie. Frank Sinatra was denied an almost certain Oscar for his fantastic performance because the film was pulled from circulation and remained unviewed by the public for thirty years!)
which on seeing this film the other day for the first time and taking a few notes found this piece concerning the few minutes of script early on in the film which is very revealing:
"...you note-takers might set down
a reminder to consult Brenman's paper,
:13:36
"Experiments in the Hypnotic Production
:13:39
of Antisocial and
Self-Injurious Behaviour",
:13:42
or Wells' 1941 paper which was titled,
:13:44
I believe, "Experiments in
the Hypnotic Production of Crime".
:13:48
Or, of course, Andrew Salter's remarkable
book, "Conditioned Reflex Therapy"...."
Interview with CIA case officer John Stockwell. The Phoenix Program was a military, intelligence, and internal security program designed by the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and coordinated and executed by Republic of Vietnam's (South Vietnam) security apparatus and US Special Operations Forces such as the Navy SEALs, United States Army Special Forces and MACV-SOG (now Special Operations Group in the CIA's Special Activities Division) during the Vietnam War. The Program was in operation between 1967 and 1972, and similar efforts existed both before and after that period. The Program was designed to identify and "neutralize" (via infiltration, capture, terrorism, or assassination) the civilian infrastructure supporting the National Liberation Front of South Vietnam (NLF or Viet Cong) insurgency.
According to one view, Phoenix was a clear success. Between 1968 and 1972, Phoenix neutralized 81,740 NLF members, of whom 26,369 were killed. The Phoenix Program is sometimes seen as an "assassination campaign," and has been criticized as an example of human-rights atrocities alleged to have been committed by the CIA or other allied organizations, including U.S. Military Intelligence. There was eventually a series of U.S. Congressional hearings. Consequently, the military command in Vietnam issued a directive that reiterated that it had based the anti-VCI campaign on South Vietnamese law, that the program was in compliance with the laws of land warfare, and that U.S. personnel had the responsibility to report breaches of the law. Supporters argue that the primary intent was to capture, not to kill, in order to gain further information. However, decentralized operations in an uncertain, ambiguous environment did lead to abuses. In many instances, rival Vietnamese would report their enemies as "VC" in order to get U.S. troops to kill them (Myra MacPherson, Long Time Passing, New York: Signet, 1984, p. 625.) In many cases, Phung Hoang chiefs were incompetent bureaucrats who used their positions to enrich themselves. Phoenix tried to address this problem by establishing monthly neutralization quotas, but these often led to fabrications or, worse, false arrests. In some cases, district officials accepted bribes from the NLF to release certain suspects.
Books:
* Andrade, Dale, Ashes to Ashes.
* Cook, John L. The Advisor.
* Herrington, Stuart, Stalking the Viet Cong.
* Moyar, Mark, Phoenix and the Birds of Prey.
* Douglas Valentine, The Phoenix Program, 1990.
* Edward S. Herman and Noam Chomsky, The Washington Connection and Third World Fascism., Newsweek, 19 June, 1972.
* Don Luce, Hostages of War (Indochina Resource Center, 1973).
* Seymour Hersh, Cover-Up, Random House, 1972.
* Long Time Passing, by Myra MacPherson, Signet, 1984.
* Then the Americans Came, by Martha Hess, Four Walls Eight Windows Press, 1996.
* Deadly Deceits: My 25 years in the CIA, by Ralph McGehee, 1999.
* Patriots: the Vietnam War remembered from all sides, by Christian G. Appy, Penguin, 2003.
Bump! _________________ --
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Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 2568 Location: One breath from Glory
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 8:17 am Post subject: Batman Shooter Under MK ?
Obviously the young man, James Holmes, who stormed into the Batman film in Denver shooting and killing , was under some form of mind control-- but was it himself who was controlling his mind and actions? The initial Police bio on Mr Holmes states that he had recently dropped out of his studies in Neuro Science. Various branches of neuro science involve cognitive behaviour and other mind sciences. It may just be that Mr Holmes chose to study this to gain a better understanding of his own mind demons. _________________ JO911B.
"for we wrestle not against flesh and blood but against principalities, against powers, against rulers of the darkness of this world, against wicked spirits in high places " Eph.6 v 12
Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:55 pm Post subject: Re: Batman Shooter Under MK ?
fish5133 wrote:
Obviously the young man, James Holmes, who stormed into the Batman film in Denver shooting and killing , was under some form of mind control-- but was it himself who was controlling his mind and actions? The initial Police bio on Mr Holmes states that he had recently dropped out of his studies in Neuro Science. Various branches of neuro science involve cognitive behaviour and other mind sciences. It may just be that Mr Holmes chose to study this to gain a better understanding of his own mind demons.
It seems strange that this young man with little income had access to a lot of weapons, body armour and supposedly rigged his house with explosives - all sounds very expensive! Perhaps if someone was "helping" with his education in Neuro Science may have provided it.
Meanwhile... if you want to know how easy it is to make people forget memories and generate false memories listen to the first 2/3 of this radiolab broadcast...
Mark Fallon - ‘Do No Harm’ is an abiding principal of psychiatry. It is abandoned time after time in this shocking, utterly compelling exploration of the profession’s collusion with state sponsored torture over the past 70 years. In 'Eminent Monsters', Director Stephen Bennett untangles a web of secrecy, denial and complicity to explore the legacy of Scottish-born psychiatrist Dr Ewen Cameron and the experiments that helped devise systems of torture employed across the globe, from Northern Ireland to Guantanamo Bay. Experts, victims and families provide chapter and verse on fundamental violations of human rights.
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